Avonu_de_Odihs Таинственный
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21Avonu_de_Odihs Таинственный
Hero Specializations are bad as always.
And seriously? Gladiator spec from Heroes 6 and Mana Regeneration for Sinitar?
30GalaadleHaut Герой
—http://strawpoll.me/5239027
(thx to antalyan for making this poll)
25logical.dust
Interesting, I would make one with listed stuff that needs to be fixed, so people can decide, but ubi doesnt really care I guess (nothing will be fixed), there never been 1 response to those polls from ubi side, which is rather sad.
25logical.dust
They seems to be having good grasp of what fans really want. Their vision about what makes this game "best heroes" is overlaping with fans opinion completely. Not like this would be super expensive to do, but why wasting money for changes if you are simply right.
21Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
"They seems to be having good grasp of what fans really want."
This faction is testament to the extent to which they've capitulated to fan requests, perhaps too much IMO. I'm not hugely impressed by what they've put together, but I agree that they are listening to the fans, and very intently.
12jakubchyba Великолепный
Sorry Ubi, but I don't like these specializations ... make them please like in H5 ... higher level = better bonus!
Increasing production is really bad idea ... we can hire these heroes in the town!
15tal-elmar
Jesus, why, WHY the specializations are such a failure!!!
Don't you have people with imagination in the company? Why are you so afraid to f*** up the balance - be creative, add DIVERSITY, the balance could be altered later!!!!
Sinitar - ability to regenerate his spiritual energy, gets NOVICE mana regen, and no specials, just a small head-start. is this a JOKE??!
30mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
No, it's the 20th anniversary. Celebrate and enjoy specials XD
3LRazo
The players are split in two, the ones that would like some new stuff, some diversity, like you and me and the ones that say that newer games should pe homm3 with latest graphics.
I think it's hard for the producers to make us all happy.
30mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
And thank for the hard work they put into this. Copy work is the best.
15tal-elmar
LRazo, what does HOMM3 have to do with horrible specializations? HOMM3 had not the best, but this is utter disaster! We had Heroes then we could distinguish between. these are just laughable, a huge step back
30mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
Step back into H6 again - the most "lovable" game EVER created.
25RobvD84 Безумец
Uhm no i think it is more like players are devided in 2 groups. 1 that like H6 and will like this. And 1 that consist of mostly older fans (mostly from 3DO era) who just want a "good" "Heroes" game again.
12blackadderDAAN Свирепый
nothing wrong with homm3 with upgraded graphics. I would buy and play it together with the new map editor. Don`t care much about innovation (for most of the time)
Let`s first see if the game will be playable on sept 29th and then worry about little details like heroes specialisations. For me the portraits and bio is more important at this time. And they tend to be great.
12blackadderDAAN Свирепый
merenefere,
It is a detail. Probably one of the easyest things to change. Unlike art.
25RobvD84 Безумец
I don't know. It seems it is the otherway around. It seems that art (and i mean changing how units look and stuff like that) is easier to change then something like skills or specializations. There is even a big chance we can't even do anything to specialization.
I still hope Ubi makes it possible to mod the skeelwheel. But it seems set in stone that this will be impossible.
12blackadderDAAN Свирепый
robvd,
My hopes of succesfully changing the townscreen and 3d models are lower then altering a couple of stats on hero skills. Ill bet changing hero stats will be a walk around the park comparing to creating your own faction. Ill think it wont take long before this will get changed. People are panicking about such meaningless things while we just dont know the state of the game at this moment.
25RobvD84 Безумец
It's not panicking. It's frustration that Ubi doesn't seem to understand what a lot of ppl want. And also that they DID limit the options for modding, while that is where some ppl put thier hope in. I think they do good if they make it so that the skillwheel and specializations is able to be modded. Ofcourse i hope visuals could be modded too by then (since i would like to see H2 with H7 graphics for example).
12blackadderDAAN Свирепый
RobvD84,
Well i would say we basically want the same thing. If i get the chance i will practically change everything i can get my hands on that does not fit into my roleplaying. If it is within my abilities to do so. Spending 500-700 hours on the same map is not unusual for me when i create my own storylines/maps. From experiences with a couple of other games. (homm/aow). I would really be dissapointed if we could not change something as simple as hero specialisations.
30GalaadleHaut Герой
Btw if some of you missed the pocket history of our lord and spider messiah Erwin:
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—https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/dungeon-magic-heroes#55d0fd8d0c75f7cc29ee7099
20sttanma Тень
I belive I'm not the only one who want to slap the face and kick the ass of that spider loving fool, but on the other hand I find his arrogance and foolishness as very entertaining.
14Winklemen Могучий
—http://strawpoll.me/5239027
Easy poll, no sign-up, JUST DO IT!
(Thanks to Antalyan for making this)
(And thanks to GalaadleHaut for bringing this to my attention :) )
26rodaff Тень
There's one guy that likes the current "specializations", Erwan is that you?
14Winklemen Могучий
Hahahaha
I wouldn't be suprised if Ubisoft prowl the comments and try to defend themselves in polls like these!
25RobvD84 Безумец
Wow, are there really ppl who don't care about this or who like this crappy hero specializations?
20Elamivuoul Свирепый
Just curious.. Will these votes have any influence?
26rodaff Тень
Erwan said that they read every single comment, but knowing the people in charge, it probably won't influence at all :P
Still, it's fun to see what the community think about certain topics.
25RobvD84 Безумец
I think it is impossible to read every comment. I also highly doubt they will even spend time in here. Otherwise they would know how much ppl dislike the specializations and should have already reacted to that.
14Raptillion Безумец
If you want to see a new shadow and black dragons:
https://www.change.org/p/limbic-entertainment-we-want-to-see-redesigned-model-of-shadow-and-black-dragon
6Feess Свирепый
Давно пора такую голосовалку, но смысла думаю нет, сомневаюсь что они будут переделывать готовые вещи. Так что будем все что не нравиться переделывать модами.
17Kara_Seyra
До выхода игры остался 1 месяц они не успеют даже если согласятся. Но они уже заявляли что больше переделок не будет...
28Chiasa Безумец
"still work in progress, especially the class attributions and specializations"
Doesn't look like you have much time left to fix that though.. xD And it's been some time since you've said it for the first time after Haven heroes reveal, no offence but now it's sounds even more like bullshit than back then
30mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
Heroes' specials are the same again. + to stats, production or skill. Boring as hell. Similar spells, similar heroes, abilities and skills mostly are repeated for all the factions. This system is not designed for a replayability. There will be too much similarity and repetitiveness in the game, as far the game mechanics is concerned.
30mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
Furthermore, if the battles feel the same and remind some bashing (more troops win) or use of the same spells - which is gonna happen because heroes specializations and skillwheel kind of force you to follow a certain path, then the battles will be boring, too.
26rodaff Тень
Ubisoft business plan is to release a mediocre/average Heroes game every few years and make some quick bucks. Quality is definitely not their goal.
30Sempai_Mur Тень
omfg, what do your designers smoke? Minotaur is a mix of a human and a bull, not a boar. He really shouldn't have such fangs. Bulls are vegans.
5NecroQueen69 Маг
Nobody told you that minotaurs of Ashan are vegans or even bulls in any way, lol.
21Sandro400 Таинственный
The fusion of man and animal may cause some additional mutation. Zebras don't have horns for instance, but Centaurs have them. No one creature of which Manticore is "consisted" has horns, still, Manticore has them. Etc etc.
13Lucifael7 Безумец
Sorry to disappoint you m8 H7 minotaurs eat unicorns only. That's why sylva has only unicorn mounts.
30Sempai_Mur Тень
@Sandro400, that's just another poor excuse for retarded design. Same as with athletic necro might heroes.
14Raptillion Безумец
If you want to see a new dragons:
https://www.change.org/p/limbic-entertainment-we-want-to-see-redesigned-model-of-shadow-and-black-dragon
22Kimarous Великолепный
- Good to see Sinitar back, but WTF are up with his lips? Is he Zoltan under that mask?
- Yeshtar looks good like before, though the reused portrait does bug me a bit...
- Yay for Darkstorm! BOO for that obscenely underpowered specialization! FIX IT!
- Ashbeth is okay. Doesn't really garner the response that the rest do.
12ArchWarlock Таинственный
http://heroes.riotpixels.com/?p=1939
Перевод статьи на русский от Геройского уголка
23DimaJeydar Безумец
Спасибо, очень быстро перевели, как всегда.
22slayersmir Таинственный
Уже не помню правило, но там точно это местоимение должно быть? "Восхищение нею медленно..."
21DarMior Бродяга
Да и "и добавляет в своё собрание" как-то коряво звучит. Почему не просто "для своей коллекции"?
22slayersmir Таинственный
Вечно мы находим к чему придраться. Нас, наверное, уже недолюбливают.
22Minastir Страж
Let's compare H7 specializations with H5 - Dungeon
H7 - Darkstorm - Minotaur General (Increases the production of Minotaurs and Minotaur Guards by 1 in the area of control.)
H5 - Kythra - Slave Driver (Specializes in Minotaurs. All Minotaurs and Minotaur Guards in hero's army gain +1 to their attack and defense for every two levels of the hero, starting on first level.)
22Minastir Страж
H7 - Sinitar - Mana specialist (Hero starts with the Prime Magic skill and Novice Mana regeneration as free ability.)
H5 - Sinitar - Catalyst (Empowered spells mana cost is reduced by 5% and + additional 1% per hero level.)
mr3LiONAugust 17, 2015 17:25:55
Hero starts with +2 Might. This is the worst joke ever.
If you trying to create specializations that will not affect the game balance much then you better just remove that feature from the game completely. There is nothing special in this specializations. How +2 Might could even help?! How +2 Might make this hero unique?
— Do you remember Yshtar?
— It's a hero with +2 Might specialization? Of course I remeber her! It's my favorite hero. I love to play with Hero with +2 Might.
Ugh...