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DimaJeydar Безумец
August 12, 2015 14:23:39

Here it is - true black dragon: https://pp.vk.me/c628430/v628430373/d9e1/iXSgt6dCcU0.jpg

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Elamivuoul Свирепый
August 12, 2015 14:41:15

This has ny vote! :D

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mediczero Молот судьбы
August 12, 2015 15:05:31

PERFECT!!!

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:10:38

yes! thats how it should be.

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Marblethrone Рыцарь
August 12, 2015 15:15:18

Take my money!

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DimaJeydar Безумец
August 12, 2015 15:40:50

@Marblethrone, Ok :D

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NecroQueen69 Маг
August 13, 2015 01:48:53

Во, так лучше.

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 02:34:02

Perfect! and it woldn't be so hard to do!

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:41:42

not hard to do but it could cost another piece of string to include into the budget, arrrrr lol

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:42:16

would* cost lol

still no edit button ofc lol

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Aseved Страж
August 13, 2015 23:00:39

Nice and classical! Will not mind it.

Note I could accept also current Ubi vision... just if it was well translated to 3D models. The current ones shown (H6 reuse, I suppose) make no favour to a not well-loved concept.

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Draxximor Свирепый
August 19, 2015 13:13:29

только ссылон что-т не работает

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DimaJeydar Безумец
August 19, 2015 13:18:07

Draxximor, странно, у меня все работает. Может ты ссылку неправильно выделил?

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Draxximor Свирепый
August 19, 2015 13:46:07

DimaJeydar, да, это же так сложно - выделить, да в оконце ввода строки браузера скопипастить...
Нет возможности по-другому передать изображение, а не через контач?

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DimaJeydar Безумец
August 19, 2015 13:51:16

Могу тебе по почте скинуть

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Draxximor Свирепый
August 19, 2015 13:56:36

Давай.
Всё, что кинуто или хотелось кинуть - на spoiler.90@mail.ru

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DimaJeydar Безумец
August 19, 2015 14:01:36

Скинул

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Draxximor Свирепый
August 19, 2015 14:05:42

ага, спасибо

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Chiasa Безумец
August 13, 2015 12:59:15

FIX THE SKILL SYSTEM
FIX THE SPECIALIZATIONS
REWORK THE DRAGON

SCRAP H6 CRAP

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Lord_Camilus 
August 13, 2015 13:56:36

+1
I think it's too late now, maybe in heroes VIII...
But if heroes VII (rather VI version 2) was a failure, would anyone continue to make a game which is not financially affordable? After 2 unsuccessful games it would be difficult to rebuild fans trust (especially when VII was also "created" by fans, shame that we were ignored in almost everyhting). Our only success was new model for Vamp and Lich, I still have hope for better specialisations.

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Antalyan Древний
August 13, 2015 14:01:30

FIX THE UNITS ABILITIES

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Lord_Camilus 
August 13, 2015 14:01:43

Maybe it's too early to judge the success of the game, but looking at the flood of people' negative comments each time the faction is revealed and no reply from the devs... Each time we writting about the same issues with no results.
I'm really curious with the beta, I think it would be decisive point whether to buy the game or wait for the price to lower to the current level of Heroes V ;)

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 14:04:38

H6 wasnt unsuccessfull from sales point of view. But people certailny didnt expect such disaster. Ubi managed to fool people over there. Afterwards they naively assumed that it had so good sales because ashan just rocks, therefore they try to recreate it (no matter what some minions over here say). If they want to ever make another H game they need to take lesson from H6, H7 and most likely replace their leads who are doing very terrible job (they most likely ordered dev team to ignore us).

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Chiasa Безумец
August 13, 2015 14:09:49

I honestly don't know... I suppose whatever sales H6 had, part of it must've been influenced by H5 success, I can't imagine the same happening now - people be buying H6 sequel so eagerly cause they loved this streamlined bugfest... Or did they?
Would Ubi really be making such a huge mistake on purpose?
Maybe there is a huge market for simple strategy-wannabe games that look like wow rip-off, but the very idea is so crazy I can't believe it xD

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Lord_Camilus 
August 13, 2015 14:18:50

Yea, people bought heroes 6 becuase they liked previous game, but what's now?
People learnt from their mistakes and they won't buy Heroes VII wihtout making sure it would be good. Seems devs forgot about that :P

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 14:19:02

Well, exactly so ... if you realise what improvement H5 did over H3/H4 people were expecting similar leap forward in H6 from H5. This expectations are not happening right now, people are rather skeptical. It certainly will be a lot of work for ubi to repair its name in the heroes franchise. Based on statistics they post about beta they did about 5-25k sold copies of preorders (depending on average playtime) which seems to me terribly few.

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Marblethrone Рыцарь
August 13, 2015 15:51:24

"Yea, people bought heroes 6 becuase they liked previous game, but what's now?
People learnt from their mistakes and they won't buy Heroes VII wihtout making sure it would be good. Seems devs forgot about that :P"

I still bought H7 because I think the previous games are good...

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shop5D61AB103 
August 13, 2015 08:27:22

Ubi....... All the fans here play this because we love heroes, 1,2,3,4 and 5 ...... 4 just kinda, don't reinvent the wheel, wanna make the game different? Make a different game then, don't ruin something so many people enjoy because your team wants to be different, we don't care, most of us just want heroes 3 and 5 back, you would make so much more money, fans , and respect if you continued and added on the legacy, don't change it

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 11:32:13

Amen.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 13, 2015 14:50:32

That are making a different game, in fact :D

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 13, 2015 14:51:29

It's just easier to borrow the name and fundaments from other well known game.

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:21:19

Aaaannnnd is official... Dungeon sucks.. Sylvan sucks... Necropolis sucks (But the new vampire rocks! Though it's not enough to save the faction from spiders...) Haven almost sucks with no griffin...Academy is kind of okay... You just managed to make a decent faction out of Stronghold...
Skills could be better, specializations boring, spells are to few and lacking inovation...
Towscreen poorly desegined...
Faceless heroes are lame
Cuddles to you and your spiders!

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:22:58

Yes, please stop butchering this franchise, please lol

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:26:39

You had your vision for Ashan.. but so did we since H5! If you couldn't keep up the same standarts from H5, then you should try to insist on making this game any more... And the worst is that you had done that with H6, and now redo it again!!
I didn't want to, but maybe now I will have to agree with @Galaadle and some others.. the way this is going to, it maybe would be better to burry Ashan and star over...Because this is not even Ashan any more... ate least not the Ashan I loved with H5...

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:28:36

Well actually, Erwin had to "correct" h5 Ashan lol
Probably the reason why we're -ironically stuck in the past- with two freaking prequels lol
They retconned the **** out of h5, and they claim for coherency and consistency lmao

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:28:52

#Miss true Sylvan, dungeon, necropolis and everthing else from H5... Rest in peace...

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:32:02

Well to me the "true" Heroes is actually the original games from NWC lol

Personally, I think H5 had great gameplay, but that's about it lol

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 04:03:18

True @Galaa, but then it was Rampart, not sylvan, castle not have etc...
:P
That's why I was refering to Sylvan and factions that came with H5 and Ashan, not the "true" originals ones from the first games

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 04:04:06

Or Sorceress, Knight, Warlock, etc. I don't remember anymore wich where the right names, sorry

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 04:11:35

Yes that's right, but as I said, I like the gameplay of h5, not its universe, although I never thought things would one day get so wrong I'd start even regretting that one lol

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rodaff Тень
August 13, 2015 15:58:58

How dare you to question Erwan's flawless work? Erwan's word is the law and we all must obey him, after all he is the Great Spider Messiah.
All hail Erwan!!! :P

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Antalyan Древний
August 13, 2015 11:35:08

This is incredible!
Half models reused from H6 and half units totally miss some unique, important ability!
YOU MUST WORK ON DUNGEON MUCH MORE AND TAKE DELAY !!!

There is no chance for this game to be successful if you don't do it!

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cdiMaster Преданный
August 13, 2015 11:37:24

You can almost feel the pressure the devs must have had because i think UBI did not want to delay the launch date...

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Antalyan Древний
August 13, 2015 11:45:27

Yeah, I have NEVER seen so little work on some faction!
But Ubi must change this, they hopefully can't believe fans will accept it and pay for it! I except many people cancelling the preorder of the game which has not been properly worked on.

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Lucifael7 Безумец
August 13, 2015 23:39:56

THEY MUST REWORK SYLVAN before..gee i find much more things to like in dungeon than in sylvan.. beside treant (non upgraded one) and music theme they have nothing that would resemble a faction about graceful elves.

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Antalyan Древний
August 13, 2015 11:27:05

Do you think we are stupid???
So many reused models from hardly accepted, but why can't you at least give them some interesting abilities?
Two of three core units don't have any ability which would make them unique in the battle (troglodytes and stalker)! I apply to you as much as I can to fix one of the biggest gameplay faults! If all creatures will be nearly the same without interesting abilities, the game will be boring!

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 13:37:00

I guess they just want to finish H7 and never see this game again, no expansions nothing. They simply cant handle it and they start to realise that after reading every second person over here is not content. They will probably give it some reason "small fanbase", "overly conservative fans", I just hope that people will not buy this game just bacouse it has heroes in name. Its very far from it despite that devs claim that they have 80% classic, 20% new.

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Antalyan Древний
August 13, 2015 14:03:20

@logical.dust
I hope you are wrong, or at least I wish you to be.

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Antalyan Древний
August 13, 2015 14:03:40

And it is a big pity, wasted potential.

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 14:10:09

@ antalyan : I wish that sometimes too ... unfortunatelly.

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Lizard_Warrior 
August 11, 2015 19:46:22

What happens when Erwan sees spiders? Find out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JJhJ1O8Ukk&feature=youtu.be

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:48:24

Cum on XD

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:50:07

on and on XD

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rodaff Тень
August 11, 2015 23:41:45

lol

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Antalyan Древний
August 13, 2015 11:54:31

DELAY AND FIX THIS GAME!
HEROES SPECIALIZATIONS AND UNITS STILL NEED MUCH WORK!

Ubi, could you decide, please, at least once right ?!

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 13, 2015 08:33:57

We were right months ago. H6.5 Beta3 coming on September. 3D models copied, not even looking the same as on the shown arts. The core units again lack abilities.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 13, 2015 08:34:24

The scaling is simply ridiculous. How can a deer be so big and tall Lich so small? Amost all creatures have to be re-scaled.

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Igelkolnikov Древний
August 13, 2015 08:41:40

Agreed, its all over the place. But this have been voiced for a very long time, it was quite obvious in the beta for example (sisters and golems etc). Not sure if they ever said anything about it though.

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 15:41:50

Included Fortress as well (thanks to Galaadle and Mediczero for most of new ideas):
Haven : http://strawpoll.me/5175798
Academy : http://strawpoll.me/5176095
Necropolis : http://strawpoll.me/5173927
Stronghold : http://strawpoll.me/5175777
Sylvan : http://strawpoll.me/5173173
Dungeon : http://strawpoll.me/5172521
Inferno : http://strawpoll.me/5176453
Sanctuary : http://strawpoll.me/5174367
Fortress (Dwarfs) : http://strawpoll.me/5190681
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H7 Black Dragon : http://strawpoll.me/5180077

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 15:43:21

Fortress is corrected version so vote again there if you already have before, additionally Sorry Medic for not including all your links (they were bit messy), I described unit in description instead.

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mediczero Молот судьбы
August 12, 2015 15:54:44

It's okay, I'm simply glad you listened to my suggestions.. ;D

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 16:02:02

This is how lineups should have been designed ... firstly gather all ideas and give them popularity vote, afterwards created several lineup versions out of top creatures so they make sense. I am pretty sure that they can be tweaked so any unit combination would form design-wise coherent lineup and balance/abilities can always be decided later (by other votes perhaps). Thanks for ideas, I like especially mountain spirit.

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 16:06:29

Perhaps we also can make original swamp fortress ... based on Sanctuary vote outcome seems that people doesnt associate Sanctuary with old fortress much.

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 02:30:42

You could splint Swamp from Sanctuary. Swamp could be made from lizardmen only, and other creatures like dragonfly and gorgon. Maybe Lizardmen could be related to naga, or a completely diferent breed from another dragon.. Don't know wich one thopugh...

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 02:33:07

And great ideas for some new units from fortress! good job!

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 03:14:00

Any ideas for swamp units? I came up sofar only with Swamp Witch, Cipactli, Jaguar, Snake, some Swamp lochness monster, Corrupted treant. Sanctuary units seems to be too noble for being in swamp lineup although they also live in similar environment, their philosophy is bit diferent (in fact they could be good/bad counterpart), I wouldnt mix swamp with sanctuary for this reason. It needs something tropic/aztec based I guess. Donk know if mixing amazon with it or making amazon new faction.

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:19:51

lol at Dungeon results, look what I suggested back in October:
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—http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=40710&PID=1249288#focus
_
And I was compromising giving the Witch instead of Troglodyte to please Ashanites... lmao

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:34:50

Hmmm, maybe a Lizardman with javelin, Dragonfly and Cocktricer as core
basilisk, gorgon adn some kind of giant frog, or some swamp creature/ monster made of mud and roots as elite
I woul leave Hydra as champion, though they are from Dungeon

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 03:38:51

Some people understand this game and some dont :) What is unfortunate however that devs dont want to admitt to themselves that they could use some help. Its not that hard to gather very valuable feedback around here if done properly. For instance factions which should be included could be done in strawpoll not in 2 separate biased votings. This would be better i think : http://strawpoll.me/5197048

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:40:02

Such a pity the people actually creating the game don't understand it lol

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:40:32

Swamp creature:
- http://img15.deviantart.net/3cf8/i/2013/302/d/3/swamp_creature_by_ianllanas-d6sbqhj.jpg

Basilisk:
- http://img06.deviantart.net/b1b7/i/2012/051/7/7/swamp_creature_by_markusthebarbarian-d4qe688.jpg

Frog
- http://paizo.com/image/content/PathfinderPawns/PZO1001-GiantFrog.jpg

Lizardmen:
-http://wiki.belegarth.com/images/9/9c/Lizardmen.jpg

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 03:44:10

When we gather 20-25 units I can make swamp poll.

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:44:38

cocktrice:
- http://img13.deviantart.net/d141/i/2009/149/c/3/cockatrice_by_tabry.jpg

dragonfly:
- http://art.ngfiles.com/images/300000/300454_nempatriarch_dragonfly-monster.jpg

gorgon:
- http://41.media.tumblr.com/08dd08de8d080c394d73b34503c63782/tumblr_nh20qveL091tjmcvmo1_1280.jpg

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:46:19

Actual Swamp creatures:
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—http://img12.deviantart.net/dc17/i/2015/107/9/f/gnolls_by_kobaltmaster-d7goebz.jpg
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—http://img13.deviantart.net/421a/i/2015/104/f/b/lizardmen_by_kobaltmaster-d8ip670.jpg
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—http://img00.deviantart.net/73db/i/2015/104/6/1/serpent_fly_dragon_fly_by_kobaltmaster-d8jg23d.jpg
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—http://img14.deviantart.net/2758/i/2015/103/a/6/gorgon_by_kobaltmaster-d8knaph.jpg
—http://img09.deviantart.net/b006/i/2015/103/6/2/mighty_gorgon_by_kobaltmaster-d8knubm.jpg
_

lol

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 03:46:51

Classic ones will be included for sure, but we need lot of new ideas so there is some "design competition".

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:48:05

Hmm.. you could add the Mantins too
- http://img09.deviantart.net/7f7d/i/2008/303/8/c/dragonfly_monster_by_dino_master.jpg

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:50:06

Well Kobaltmaster drew these ones himself, even submitted them in this very blog himself around 588692248725 articles ago lol

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 03:51:28

"The Gorgon from Heroes of Might and Magic 3 the way I think it would fit in Ashan.
It is believed these predators came to being in the Ancient Age as Shantri texts describe a similar creature by the name of Khalkotauroi. Despite their form they are reptiles, not mammals.
Although very thick, their scales are not made of metal as the bronze patina would lead many to believe. Its breath is sheer poison and some have died by simply looking in its eyes." KB

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:55:24

You could add some fungal creature too
- http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/338427/3183539/1243294420583/alice+and+the+mushroom.jpg?token=LUBi%2BWPpzbxsldGS3GmXyAHa%2Fl4%3D

and swamp worm:
- http://img10.deviantart.net/e08a/i/2013/312/e/a/swamp_worm_concept_by_majungatholus-d6tgw9p.jpg

some slime/ ooze:
- http://www.gabrielarts.de/images/gallery/59pf1_gabrieldevue.jpg

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 03:56:23

how about it for townscreen?
- http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/halruaa/images/8/87/Fantasy_town_creative_artwork_swamp_city_1920x1080_wallpaper_www.wallmay.com_72.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130715100427

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 04:00:29

I also think the work from Minastir and Articun is worth mentioning, IMO lol:
_
—http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=41092
_
—http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=41172
_
—http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=41112
_

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 04:01:34

Oh and just browse the Coliseum lol:
_
—http://heroescommunity.com/forumdisplay.php3?FID=11
_

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 04:03:30

And the Altar is full of stuff too lol
_
—http://heroescommunity.com/forumdisplay.php3?FID=5

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 04:08:19

Very nice @ Galaad

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 04:18:23

Ok anything else? I have about 20 units in list.

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 04:29:43

Well in the Coliseum alone you can browse for days looking for stuff already lol

About the Factions poll, I'd rather do it like this:
_
—http://strawpoll.me/5197333

Tell me if I've missed anything lol

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Milets Страж
August 13, 2015 04:30:04

Hmm... some kind of Hag
- https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a6/fd/8a/a6fd8a8b005cc9c11dbd38422fcd75cb.jpg

or swamp/ vodoo witch (not D3 witch doctor)
- http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YqT2K6kSA04/TdIcCuJE8EI/AAAAAAAAAoY/3jg9pXy1GRg/s1600/witch.jpg
- http://img07.deviantart.net/dd05/i/2013/044/8/a/swamp_witch_by_pumpkinpie92-d5usf5m.jpg

Maybe Troll:
- http://whfb.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/2/23/StoneTroll.jpg

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 04:30:59

Damn I forgot Knight lol, 2 secs I correct it lol

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 04:36:06

And here it is lol:
_
—http://strawpoll.me/5197379

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 04:52:12

Galaad lol, its so many units that we could make 2 swamp factions out of them ... sumarising results.

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 05:05:18

Thats much better faction voting pool :) however perhaps 9 options are too few if we have so many variants for same faction, someone might like 2-3 variants. I would say that if people mark max 60-80% of options they would have feeling that they win as most of their idea would be included unless you are Erwan who has talent to like only most unpopular stuff.

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 05:29:06

Ok fortress (swamp) : http://strawpoll.me/5197669 we reached limit of options (30) of strawpool here, so many great ideas there probably more factions could be made out of those or perhaps factions should have about ~15 units.

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Blackfyre_ Таинственный
August 16, 2015 15:08:35

leviathan would be nice for swamp ( some kind of golem made of old and dead fish dirt ,waterplants and mud with huge lobster claws)

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Antalyan Древний
August 11, 2015 17:36:09

I am sorry but I don´t like flanking. WHY?
1) It is an easy way how to do some additional damage for FAST creatures. They have ever had big advantages in Heroes games, so I don´t link an idea of adding them EVEN more.
2) It is one of the reasons why the creatures don´t have much ABILITIES which I like and miss.

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v.o.r.t.3.x. Разрушитель
August 11, 2015 18:06:03

I have to agree with you. I am VERY skeptical of the flanking system. Basically I two units running around each other in circles for a flanking bonus. It seems ridiculous and pointless.

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Chiasa Безумец
August 11, 2015 18:08:22

I could imagine it working well as a special ability of some creatures like the Assassin, but as a general battle mechanic - meh

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sz_roland Страж
August 11, 2015 18:41:21

Flanking is a new system in RTS games and I disliked it since I first saw in Age of Wonders 3...In my opinion limits the normal strategy part of the game and does a focus on flanking strategy approach which is all about scoring flanking attacks f extra damage.
I never liked it not because it's hard to master but because limits you.

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Antalyan Древний
August 11, 2015 19:13:17

I usually don´t know whether to cry or shout when Ubi tries to bring some new mechanics to Heroes games.

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Antalyan Древний
August 11, 2015 19:26:10

Unfortunately, H6 had some game mechanics which could be considered to be very interesting (reputation system, bosses) if they would work on it more, but flanking is not a right idea, at least not as general mechanics as Chiasa says.

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Stormhelico Таинственный
August 12, 2015 15:13:31

Video from gamescom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7iKqdbgmoc

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:20:16

medusa looks absolutely the same like in sanctuary and its not good

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Kara_Seyra 
August 12, 2015 15:23:06

Бедняга олень :(

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Rimgrabber Безумец
August 12, 2015 15:25:09

Didn't they say the deer's scaling has been improved.....?

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Black_Weaver Палач
August 12, 2015 15:26:00

NO!! where is troglodyte' burrowing movement? Why medusa has H6 animations? Why strider occupies 4 cells? Hydra model is cool but I'm a bit dissapointed...

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w1842nite Криган
August 12, 2015 15:27:19

OMG the strider and the troglodyte look so freacking awesome, can't wait to play those cool guys))

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blackadderDAAN Свирепый
August 12, 2015 15:29:41

haven`t seen that one yet. thanx.

Animations look great for this game. So do the graphics. Not what i`m looking forward to the most in a heroes game. but still.

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Sssssaaaaaaaa Свирепый
August 12, 2015 15:32:37

Спасибо вам за видео! Хоть оно и очень коротенькое)))
Гидра, просто прекрасна!!!

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:33:58

i dont like the look of medusa in 3d battle, it looks like coral priestess with too long snakes, i didnt liked it in sanctuary, they made too many things which i dont like in h7.

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Qriqn Разрушитель
August 12, 2015 15:34:13

The strider is so hilarious xD Now I'm sure that it's just a monkey in a costume.

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DimaJeydar Безумец
August 12, 2015 15:34:44

Oh no, medusa has model from H6 :(
Deer is biggest than dragon :D
Big spiders - that's cool
And why black dragons look smaller than H6 ones?!

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:35:30

it looks like coral priestess with too long snakes on head*

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:36:43

i dont like reused assassin from h6

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:38:08

strider looks new interesting unit, moves like creepy doll.

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:39:43

troglodyte looks interesting too. black dragon sucks, hydra looks much better.

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:45:58

i thought they will make a new medusa model but they reused it completely. ahh, too many shitty reused things in this game.

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Haraz Таинственный
August 12, 2015 15:47:12

Thanks for that interesting video. Not bad ;)

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Black_Weaver Палач
August 12, 2015 15:48:51

Dragon looks like a pet... Champion choice now is obvious for me. Lich death animation is cool though.

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 15:54:06

dragon looks shitty.

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Kornbeef Тень
August 12, 2015 16:05:22

So much negativity. I for one loved the video! This got me pumped. The spell animation was great, the trog looked freaking scary! The death animations added character. The medusa had similar design as coral because they are the same species just underground and more powerful. Can't wait for the second beta!

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 16:05:28

two most sad things for me in dungeon: reused assassin and medusa. dragon is shit too but i can change it to hydra which looks great

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 16:05:53

dungeon look better than sylvan.

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Opensky888 
August 12, 2015 16:14:12

ahh i dont like that medusa's model with so long snakes on her head ;P

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shop5D61AB103 
August 13, 2015 08:29:25

I hope someone in their team actually reads any of this stuff we post

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Ubi-MoshiMoshi Могучий
August 13, 2015 12:27:48

Hi shop5D61AB103, we are reading and taking note.

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Chiasa Безумец
August 13, 2015 12:32:34

Well, didn't anyone take note when everyone was saying they don't want to see H6 purple rat ever again? xD
Or useless hero specializations, or level cap, or 7 magic schools?

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 13, 2015 12:53:54

Basically just stop, stop. Give back the franchise to JVC or sell it to some company which will respect this franchise and actually do some nice work on it. Thinking of Katauri.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 13, 2015 13:27:21

You should interact, communicate, and cooperate more than taking notes.

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eloar0 
August 13, 2015 13:43:39

And what exactly will happen with those notes? Are there any plans to improve the game?

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logical.dust 
August 13, 2015 13:43:42

@ Ubi-MoshiMoshi : After you take note please dont throw the note to garbage but show it to design team / game leads. Really what ubi is trying over here is pitifull. Clearly you need more time for game development, just move release date and do what should have been done if you want people to ever buy another heroes again.

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eloar0 
August 13, 2015 00:25:54

Half of the units are recycled from H6.
Hey devs, will people who bought H6 pay only half price for H7?
Do you see any problem here at all?

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BeYo_OnD Древний
August 12, 2015 00:26:00

Skill seems terribly OP. Don't like a generalizes stealth concept, feels misplaced with some creatures and lacks uniqueness. Meh.

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 11, 2015 19:39:20

Haven : http://strawpoll.me/5175798
Academy : http://strawpoll.me/5176095
Necropolis : http://strawpoll.me/5173927
Stronghold : http://strawpoll.me/5175777
Sylvan : http://strawpoll.me/5173173
Dungeon : http://strawpoll.me/5172521
Inferno : http://strawpoll.me/5176453
Sanctuary : http://strawpoll.me/5174367
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h7 Black Dragon : http://strawpoll.me/5180077

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:42:44

No Fortress? Some kinda racism against the dwarfs or what?

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:43:53

Be creative and let's invent some new creatures for the expasnion, hej.

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 11, 2015 19:45:05

Too lazy, if someone does Fortress I'll add it to the list.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:45:18

Tell UBI what the Fortress should be like. It's the time before it's too late again, lol.

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Antalyan Древний
August 11, 2015 19:48:15

Well, we had only one game where fortress was included.
It is not much to do the survey.
If I had not done my own survey (you can find it here: https://www.quicksurveys.com/s/n4RMe
and results: https://www.quicksurveys.com/s/n4RMe), I would add fortress.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:49:38

That's why I told us to be creative before they show us their creativness again.

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 11, 2015 19:51:50

Well my Fortress is here:
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—http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=40857
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Feel free to give it a comment, here or directly on the thread.

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Antalyan Древний
August 11, 2015 19:53:06

If you say their creativeness, you mean there unimagination?

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Antalyan Древний
August 11, 2015 19:53:43

Excl. cabir, it was one of their (not many) good ideas :D

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Cleglaw Советник
August 11, 2015 19:55:50

haven poll is very broken.

justicar is h7 swordsman.
angel and seraphim are entirely different, seraphim sucks, angel rocks.

inferno poll has no hellworm, shouldnt we see how fans react to it? imo it is highly possible to appear...

there is no fortress poll but we maybe need it most.. you know, to see what people expect from it.. so devs may use this in when they build an expension game.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:56:22

Well, H5 Fortress was pretty good. Rune mage was good. Pretty interesting. Bravo for Nival Interactive again. They did not even need such websites to understand what a good gameplay, abilities, magic and skill systems, and innovation are.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:58:45

Nival made the best specializations in this series. This should be worked on and expanded, not abandoned!!! Many small details that were basically put into trash by UBI. FU!

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 19:59:59

Of course, specials is not a detail, BTW.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 20:07:59

OKI, just don't blame UBI if they F**k the Fortress.

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 20:13:32

Nival did good things but not fortress. It was totally boring faction.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 20:15:37

Why do you say that? This is not true. They did it very well. And they kept its distinctivness from other factions, too.

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Rimgrabber Безумец
August 11, 2015 20:20:17

Fortress was just okay imo. It wasn't terrible, but it's lineup was just six dwarves and a giant flaming lizard. Rune magic and stuff was interesting, but overall the faction didn't live up to it's potential.

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Chiasa Безумец
August 11, 2015 20:27:08

Imo H5 Fortress was awful due to most boring line-up one could possibly imagine, it was literally: dwarf, dwarf, dwarf on a bear, dwarf, dwarf, big dwarf and a lava dragon xD
The rune magic was a cool concept, as for creature abilities - I honestly don't remember, never used this faction outside of campaign

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 20:30:22

For gameplay, ok, but for line-up... just the most over-racialized faction.

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 20:32:30

Galaad : too much humanoïd for me in you line-up, even if the mythological aspect is good. Some muspelli, ulfsark and troll could be better.

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Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
August 11, 2015 20:40:20

"For gameplay, ok, but for line-up... just the most over-racialized faction."

And now Haven gets that honour. ;)

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 20:44:24

Haven is about human fighting monsters. They always were over-racialized, so it doesn't bother me (even if it's the faction I like the less becaus of that^^).

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 20:52:21

No, the abilities and the rune magic was interesting alternative to other factions. Don't be silly.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 20:56:29

Actually, they were on the par with other factions, as for the quality is concerned.

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 20:56:47

...

Have you read me ?

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 20:57:59

I read everyone.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 20:59:01

So give your proposal, then! It's your time.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 20:59:23

What is your line-up?

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:07:58

Lol, you can't give your line-up or any objective reasoning for your statements.

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 21:10:05

Thank you for making me laugh ! XD

Just look at my profile.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:12:05

Laugh, laugh as much as you can :D

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:13:50

Anyways, your proposal doesn't make H5 Fortress bad or anything. It was good, as it was, That's it.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:14:36

Could be better, as the rest of the game, but was good enough. That being said.

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 21:19:53

Then you must be happy with actual sylvan line-up : just a great bunch of humanoïd...

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:23:44

Actually, the current Sylvan is not that bad, except for those weak elfs' faces including a boy called Ossir. They should look manish, strong and fierce to me. etc.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:25:18

Unicorns should be back, too, but the voting was a failure.

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 21:27:56

The gameplay forced you to use only treant and there is too much elves... at least there is a cool racial...

But I want good gameplay and imaginative line-up (if no unicorne, why not, but need something intresting instead !).

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 11, 2015 21:31:48

—http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/mightandmagic/images/7/70/H5NWCFaeries.png/revision/latest?cb=20090827181049&path-prefix=en
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Note this is like 10 yrs old.

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Najakir Криган
August 11, 2015 21:33:34

Yeah ! That is a true innovative sylvan !

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:33:35

I used hunters the most, treants, and unicorns to blow my foe - reinforced by sprites and strong druids. Dragons were strong on their own. Good line up for me.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:34:59

Play Ossir vs. Irina duel to see its beauty.

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 11, 2015 21:36:14

@Najakir

Indeed, but no, Ubi gave us LotR instead. THANKS A LOT

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:36:24

We can play now. I'll show you its beauty.

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mErEnEfErEee Свирепый
August 11, 2015 21:37:56

Sylvan abilities were very well-matched. A lot of fun!

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GalaadleHaut Герой
August 11, 2015 21:39:30

@meren

H5 Sylvan was just devastating. Very fun to play indeed.

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Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
August 11, 2015 21:59:50

"Haven is about human fighting monsters. They always were over-racialized, so it doesn't bother me (even if it's the faction I like the less becaus of that^^)."

Yeah I hear this a lot, but this was pre-Ashan. This is a different setting and I honestly see no reason to center the entire game around Haven anymore. So I see no reason why Haven should be predominantly human, or why the other factions can't be weighted more to their own ruling races, sorry. Necro and Inferno already are.

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Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
August 11, 2015 22:00:38

"The gameplay forced you to use only treant and there is too much elves... at least there is a cool racial..."

Define "too much". I disagree. There's too many humans, if we must complain about a race.

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rodaff Тень
August 11, 2015 23:32:32

Fate Spinner and Ebon Spider among the least liked Necropolis creatures, see Erwan, most people still have good taste.
#VN

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Carhinath Таинственный
August 12, 2015 01:21:38

I find the Inferno poll for the line-up to be the most interesting, since we don't have inferno in this game. Yet. That line-up that the poll shows, would be PERFECT! I would LOVE it if they actually did all the creatures for that poll get put into the actual line-up.

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Carhinath Таинственный
August 12, 2015 01:23:35

I also find the Black Dragon vote to be VERY interesting. If I would've bet, I would've have guessed it to sky rocket to the "NO" side, but it's actually fairly even. A lot don't really care, and some even like it... I'm shocked.

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 02:50:12

No problem making fortress as well if you suggest some units, ist pointless to make it just for H5 lineup which consists of only 7 units. Additionally I can include Galaadle units so it will be sort of H5 lineup vs Galaadles. U want that?

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 02:54:28

Towards all people critising justicars/swordsman or other consistency stuff, you are missing the point of this votings completely. You can safely vote for both or for none of creature variants. This isnt definitive order (take top 8 and done). After popularity is decided lineups should be formed from top creatures so they have sense (ofc swordsman and justicars will not be in same lineup as that would be stupid). But neverthless they seemed distinctive enough (designwise) to separate them, ...

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 02:59:28

unlike angels and seraphs which are esentially almost identical, you should realise that putting all variants ever introduced in heroes is completely impractical (there would be 100 voting options). Variants can always be decided later in separate votings. And also people who complain that some creatures are missing please calm down, there always can be 2nd round for this if enough alternative ideas are collected.

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logical.dust 
August 12, 2015 04:16:15

I just hope people doesnt try to cheat in this, heaven lineup seems to be too straightforward, althought it might happen, order didnt changed much since yesterday.

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