DEVS, this is really time for Sylvan reveal. Too much crazy info!
Black dragons and life drain ability!?
Sylvan faction without grandmaster destiny!?
Am I drunk xD?
Sylvan HAS grandmaster destiny! Give me some time, I will make a screenshot!
Treant- sharpshooter ))))))
With the sight of a branch)
Here you go! It can be my favorite faction! Again!
Дракон-кровосос? ну, кто-то жаловался, что теперь у нас вампир - дикое животное. Появилось еще круче)
Very "nice" video)
@Black_Weaver, this is NOT destiny, this is Nature's Revenge!
I thought you meant grandmaster ability only! So here it is! Nature's luck and luck=destiny. Yes, their racial skill isn't based on luck, but anyway it is pretty cool. Am I wrong?
You're wrong mate. Destiny represents a whole separate set of abilities.
Right, but anyway, I'm not disappointed at all. And you?)
I am because the game has too much repeats when it comes to class skillwheels. Everywhere you can see prime magic, warfare, offense and deffence. It's really not good. More diversity please!
Yeah, agreed. Number of skills in the game allows more diversity than this.
Anyway Black_Weaver I do understand your point and I wouldn't mind but as I said, we have problem with repeats now and there is no class in the game with grandmaster destiny.
Why these screenshots have much better quality than the game in beta no matter which quality we choose? These screenshots are amazing, but in beta the landscape is worse than in h6. Could you explain it me and tell me, please, if it will be improved?
Btw, did you notice the death knight in the last image? So cool :D
I think there is a difference between the public beta and the dev's beta!Why?
Well in their gameplay videos we see very good graphics and no,not even one bug...
Let's hope so the final game will be at least like this.
But as I have seen again in this video, it needs:
+ much bigger zoom - everything is very, very small, even on the battlefield too
+ hero needs more movement points, tell me please how much game years it would take to overcome some gigantic map with current amount of points
Couples of years,I guess
Longer than my eyes can handle the strain of staring at the tiny pixels, that's for sure.
I am sorry to say this, but the scale of the game is awful. All the important stuff looks TINY!!! Will the game include a telescope to play???
dude its beta shouting like u are and they wont chage it :) and yes I agree it needs to get bigger I think they relsie it and will change it :)
They must make the zoom available. I want to zoom a creature to max. Also, rotate the map. It is very uncomfortable at the moment. I can't move the map or zoom. I can't see things at all. Things cover and overlap with other things. I can't see the recources or artifacts on the map. On the battle field the interface covers the units etc. I can't see and I can't move or rotate the map. Please change it.
yeha the FPS drop makes things a lot harder. just remember its beta these things will get fixed I hope
The game does not look like beta it looks as early alfa no more. It allows to set zooming in adventures map but after each battle zooming are lost again. It irritate me
Maybe the magnificent glass will be the part of the collector´s edition?
About Adeventure Map
To do zoom is not a solution because you see less things in the adventure map. You shoud be able to see the same things but bigger. Besides, if the user need to change the zoom,camera... each time (every time he starts a map, he loads a map...), it will be too annoying and you will be tired of do it soon.
About the battle map
There are different sizes, so it is not a solution to do zoom beacuse you should do it each time. The camera should be the nearest to the battlefield to see all the battlefield and the units. Right now, you can see things not related to the battlefield. You can see the surounding area to the battlefield. The camera should be in other angle and nearest to see all things in a good way. But you need to increase the units because the camera is not the only thing.
Look at King's Bounty. Big units, a bit more "parallel" angle of the camera and a near camera. At the end, you can see perfectly the units with all details, you can the whole battlefield. And bigger things in the adventure map to see perfectly all things. And King's Bounty is not the only example. For example H1-H3, Eador (the battlefield)...
Like "Stormhelico" said, the zoom IS NOT a solution. Not at all. It's the SCALE. Things like trees and mountains are not improtant and should be smaller than the treasure chests, the mines or the freaking HEROES.
Also, the skills in the skillwheel are microscopic and the construction window is very hard to navigate with the buildings looking like small fleas in a brown background.
So I figured out how necromancy works:
Novice: Allows you to rise X% of enemy core creatures as undeads after battle
Expert: Allows you to rise X% of enemy elite creatures as undeads after battle
Master: Allows you to rise X% of enemy champion creatures as undeads after battle
(X depends on hero level)
And the creatures is rised as:
Sentinel = Skeleton
Crossbowman = Ghost
Dire Wolf = Ebon spider
Cavalier = Lamasu
Guardian = Vampire
Chaplain = Lich
Saraph = Impossible (light creature)
Landsknecht = Grim rider
Cabir = Skeleton
Gargoyle = Impossible (construct)
Golem = Impossible (construct)
Djinn = Vampire
Raksasha = Lamasu
Apprentice = Lich
Colossus = Impossible (construct)
Arcane Eagle = Bone Dragon
Brute = Skeleton
Harpy = Ghost
Gnoll = Ebon Spider
Centaur = Lich
Wyvern = Lamasu
Basilisk Rider = Vampire
Cyclop = Grim Rider
Behemoth = Bone Dragon
Sounds quite good and fun to have ^^
Hunter = Skeleton
Dryad = Ghost
Pixie = Ebon Spider
Blade Dancer = Vampire
Druid = Lich
Moon Doe = Lamasu
Green Dragon = Bone Dragon
Treant = Grim Rider
Assassin = Skeleton
Troglodyte = Ebon Spider
Stalker = Ghost
Minotaur = Vampire
Strider = Impossible (construct)
Medusa = Lich
Black Dragon = Bone Dragon
Hydra = Grim Rider
Very nice. I hope they plan to go down that line. But also u have the skills to think off. so Im looking forward to some nice boosts for necro
Well, it will be very funny if cavalier rise as lamasu, troglodyte as spider and so on :D
It atleast makes more sense than rising cyclops as bone dragons (Good old H5)
I don't think so, because in description of bone dragons says that his bones from different sources. Maybe from cyclop :D
you are right... Still, it does makes the most sense like this...
Medic, where you learned the information?
It's just a theory, but it is what seems most likely...
Why we can resurrect Djinn? It's elemental.
We can also resurrect wolf as a spider.
Because in older Heroes games djins could get ressed as undead too. And besides they are alive. And there not completely the same as elementals.
I appreciate the effort, but your conflicting statements make this quite worthless.
You first say you "figured out" which means you actually found these out as "fact".
Then, you go ahead and say it's just "theory" which means it's just your own guesstimate, and not fact at all.
I believe 90% of the participants of this website could put together something like this, and they would agree in 90% of their guesstimates.
Figured out = Thought about it and came to a conclusion. If it was fact I found I would have said so...
Probably should have said "how necromancy possibly works"
That's awesome thank u Medic!
If the necromancy really works in this way, I will be really satissfied and your small argument about the word "possibly" will be solved too.
Hello all, please keep in mind that data obtained with illegal means may contain incorrect information and should not be trusted as the moment as official final content. Indeed, on this particular version only Haven & Academy are supposed to be integrated and other line-ups may content still work in progress elements or incorrect details to be fixed. For instance, Black Dragons will not have a life drain ability. All certified information will be available here, please bear the wait with us.
Is the development of the game going fine?? Sounds like you still have so many problems to solve in but 3 months!!
There are several branches of versions during a development. The beta only is one and don't contain all latest elements (especially regarding factions not supposed to be integrated).
That being said, we are impressed by what you were able to achieve here ;)
Uffffff :D Good to hear that! We all got trolled then ha :D !
You're impressed by what we achieved here.. Whatever did you want to say? What did we achieve?
That leaves the question; What ability has the black dragon then?
Maybe , it means that the members of the "Council of Shadows" know more than M. U-Nox =)
Even if we would have preferred to only share final information and avoid this situation, we can’t deny that it requires a true commitment to dig the title like this and extract all those elements. Don’t worry Messa_21 I know many things…. I am just eagerly waiting to share them all ;)
I trust only official information , so I try to be calm, like a boa constrictor :D
Ubi-Nox, you little Cabir! :D What are you waiting for then !? Share Sylvan with us :D!!!
Yeah, Ubi-Nox, please share some information with us this week regarding the two remaining factions!
- Юби-Нокс почитал что мы Вивером и Ксеном ,чтоль накатали xD
Не, я просто и на англ тоже писал)
"Illegal means", what are you talking about?
Galaad, it is a sad situation. Some people have somehow extracted the beta hidden files and made their version free to download... I'm so glad all this leaked info isn't real. From now I'll believe only official information.
People bought(!) the beta they can access the files there is no problem with that. Providing free download is another issue, but where have you seen the latter?
It would be actually better if beta didn't contain these factions files at all. But maybe it wasn't possible.
Phew, no vampire dragons!
Those information were not supposed to be accessible but the crack of non-legal versions modified the authorizations of the game so it is indeed illegal means :)
But you knew that info may somehow be extracted, right? So why didn't you cut it from beta?
oh I see.. ok lol thanks for the reply!
On a side note, will the game be hardcoded? Because scripting support would definitely do some good, since modding the visuals already seems to be fairly accessible.
Vidéo sympa et screenshots sympa aussi. J'espère que les graphismes seront aussi bien que sur ces images dans le jeu final :-)
Treant is a shooter
Sylanna save us... What a hell?!
Like a gargantuan? =D
Похоже теперь будут два Гаргантюана =)
And Blackies are vampires is that right? lol
Galaad, yes ;)
Hehe Maby Dev will comment this on Monday like it was with infos about Orcs ^^ I hope so.
BTW if you would like to see HVII Beta Test, just check out my YT channel
Videos are in Polish language but if you wish in English, just leave a comment :)
Treant as shooter solves the problem with two slow moving tough melee creatures as champions. And in CoH treants shot roots at their enemies. It will be a defensive, supportive creature.
is that a joke?? did someone photoshoped these images?
blackies are vampires? treants shooters? maybe hydras should get death cloud ability by farting? have they consider it or not yet?
It is NOT photoshop, it's from hidden beta files...
Antikouras, This model does not finish, so that they could mix places the ability of creatures. In addition, they wrote that the hydra will vampirism, so I think it is the ability of the hydra
Am I the only one that likes that the black dragon has lifedrain!?
oh... they must be kidding us
yes i remember this LordXeen, when we voted the dungeon lineup hydra had the lifesteal. that would be ok but still i think regen fits better with hydra
but dragon-vampire? thats a bit odd
Whats the problem with life drain on blackies? Its dark magic, and at the end of the day devs have to create coherent and thought out lineups with synnergy effects, and in line with the racial skills. Also the two champions will have to be equally interesting to choose, but at the same time different in role.
Black Dragon = Lifedrain
Hydra = Sweep
Landknecht = Not sweep
hydra was always hitting all enemies around her since heroes 1, the no flanks ability was a nice addition and the lifesteal was interesting but now dragons have lifesteal and not hydra?
This model does not finish, so that they could mix places the ability of creatures. In addition, they wrote that the hydra will vampirism, so I think it is the ability of the hydra
LordXeen i think you are right. I also hope so
lol some people really feel the need to defend anything, I swear to god they would defend a fucking faction based on candy canes and Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory lol
with lollipop women and oompa loompas as heroes
and a brand new school of chocolate magic
Odd..I would of expected Treant to be a melee unit given we've got Dryads (I presumed they'd be giving defence/attack buffs or healing the Treant, which doesn't seem quite right for a shooter). Treant as a shooter might work, maybe it'll be throwing rocks or something? I'll have to see before making any judgement.
Making Black Dragons vampires is really weird though, I hope that isn't correct.
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Xaxa there is no way I will up vote it then :P
и много ты рассчитываешь лайков собрать Некр:))?
- Дрейк - те Джованни на Аве лучше был)
Шмель это да, лучше. Но потом меня Мира укусила и стал гноллом. И будучи гноллом сожрал Псатку.
Заметно что Псатку /Пасху/Птаху сожрал )))
)) вся банда в сборе ....тольк Джорджик в тусовку попал )))
а я укусила ядовитого мурку ,пришлось глюкозу ставить , полегчало )
кстати если вначале укусить Дера , а потом Сандро , наблюдется интересный эффект
" рассеивание общее " - возвращение настоящего облика , в моем случае -Дракона )) .
@Мирк самое главное чтобы тебя клоп не укусил =)))
@Дер очень хочется чтобы игра большинству по вкусу пришлась, собственно и лайков должно быть больше :)
@Клоп - тебе твоя старая би-Трансовская Ава лучше была)
>>а я укусила ядовитого мурку ,пришлось глюкозу ставить
Повезло, что сейчас период умеренной ядовитости. Иначе пришлось бы ещё и клизмы ставить с ромашкой)
))) с ромашкой О_0
Эффект двух ядов суммируется р-ция нейтрализации дает " ОбЩее рассеивание" , думаю до ромашки не дошло б ))
Это такой особый ведьмачий эликсир, который надо клизмой вводить перед заходом на этот сайт.
1 укусить 1 алика и 1 Сандро
2 поставить ромашку ))) после еды ))))
3 зайти на сайт ,поприветствовать Машу )
- нЕКра -для тебя кстатти спецом сделали аву Золтана. Хз. не не сиавиш)
Тебе б - идеально вписалось xD
<< спецом >> :))))
<< Хз. не не сиавиш) >> :???
Eто бета -писда!!!
Galaadle write in English, I understand you better, than in Russian :)
/\/\(00)/\/\ Assuredly,assuredly .....
Эта бета - паршивое дерьмо и я даже не понимаю, как кто-то может захотеть сделать предзаказ поиграв в ЭТО, даже допуская факт, что ты смог запустить её, не сломав свой комп, - она полностью кривая, с ужасным дизайном, как в браузерных играх. Любой, кто даёт деньги Юбисофту, поддерживает смерть этой франшизы в конвульсиях. А лучше всего в этом всём то, что Юбисофт рассматривает своих потребителей не иначе как стадо баранов. Лол
Sylvan tomorrow, please?
frage ich mich sogar oft,
warum eilst du mit dem Spiel,
wenn es Fehlers hat so viel?
Das ist das Geld,
was verwüstet diese Welt.
Good one...They said fromt he beggining that the game will be ready in 2015 so we can give them time untill 31/December.2015 ;)
At least it would be quite perfect Chritsmas present (only a week delayed).
Yeah the best christmas present :DDD
Haha very impressive, and unfortunately quite on point...
Sorry if some mistakes are here, but Germanese is neither my native nor my second spoken language.
I am not German myself either but seems my knowledge of the language was enough to understand you poem.
I’ve translated it to English for those who don't speak German. Unfortunately the rhyme scheme doesn't work and I am not enough of a poet to remedy that ;)
I wonder all too often,
Why you rush your games so,
When bugs they have many?
It's is the money I am sure,
that destroys this world.
Thanks. Actually, the only reason why I have not written it in english was that I found better rhymes in Germanese for this occasion.
The cabirs are really cute, and useful. A new favorite! Love seeing them running up behind my golems to repair them. And on the next turn shoot fire in the face of some haven units. Its a highly tactical unit.
And the guardian also shown herself from the best side :)
I actually like the golem too, he is a great combo with the cabirs and the golem does also decent dmg.
Yes, I agree. The golems are really though and hard hitting. Good animations to. I just hope they tweak their size a little, to make it bigger.
yup, the golem is too small, rakshasa also should be bigger
I love Cabeiri! I'm always sad to kill them, they are so cute and of course very useful. Definately a good unit which deserves to be new favourite one :-)
Am I only one who love djinn's voice in beta?
Got back to my old avatar...
Bravo my lotus!
I love the Sanctuary!
I made a "dissipation" ....
Мир, ты гораздо лучше выглядишь, накрасилась?)
we came back, spell "dispel magic" ))
Всё таки первая аватрка лучшая, она как первый.... Ну впрочем ладно
Still first best avatar, as she first.... Well but okay
Sanctuary = Second <3
Academy = <3
I still want an academy and sanctuary union with the crimson wizards go to lotus empire for help in the difficult days wit orcs!
Hai-Ro best !!
Эт ава больше всех похожа на меня , просто Рики \чех\ карты мне спутал ) фильмы наши смотрит видать )
Sanctuary Academy + + + orcs Inferno !!! Love forever mine.
I would like to see an academy subfaction related to snow and ice (like in h3)... That would be cool!!!
Welcome back (smile)
@ B_WE , I want ballista \mag academy \ in "beta version".
ballista 15 shots useful for Academy )
Building must be seen in townscreen when we click to build them. PLEASE, CORRECT IT.
Or to be like in Heroes 3; when you click to build them to see them shining and hear a specific sound...
We must see them while building!
Soon we will see a new vampire and lich! - This is great news!
I hope it will be handsome vampire!
Oh u are in my mind!A sexy,muscly vampire...oh my god so hot
Come on, it is blood MONSTER! Though who knows...
I hope such this will be the!
@blackweaver,oh come on why u think I voted the blood monster and was attacking the other's vampires fans?
I dont like gentel vampires they are so boring but wild ohhhhhhhh are so good!I prefere wildness...
Wild, charming, handsome vampires.
m4cie this discussion made me horny...
That my post was adressed to m4ciej12222 but I agree with you Lighty!
Btw, do you know that there will be Shantiri Golems and Shantiri Titans as neutrals? Can you even imagine their total awesomeness?! Can't wait to see them!
See you tomorrow!!!!!
See ya m4cie!
There will really be?Oh that's so cool!
i can't wait. btw during the developers stream i asked them about the new lich and they reassured me that it was going to be much more skeletal than the h6 version
Yep, I saw their files in beta resources! Take a look:
Кровожадный убийца! Вот это настоящий вампир!
How do russians know all that think?
Will vampires nosferatu?
Of course we'll see it soon. This is not news. We already knew we'd see it eventually. The game is suppose to come out in just three months after all.
anyone waiting for an update?
We all do...
it should have been put in site by now doesnt it.. well anyway see you people later, bored of waiting (:
don't hold your breath folks :-)
When I heard beta, I was expecting a full pledged test. that means:
- Daily update (yes, everyday) with each update bring some kind of improvement and balance
- Each update will have a list of things they fix/change
But... seeing that you only play 2 of 6 factions, not to mention that in the past (yes they were different dev but damn man), the only patch they release is the retail version. so, yeah don't hold your breath, unless they can prove me wrong this time, it's just a paid demo.
@sung4n Yeah actually that is what i hoped for too. But so far i don't really know what to make of it other then to think it is only have been used for marketing purposes.
Let's say, that they didn't plan to balance other factions, and the beta purpose is to get things right on general gameplay then:
- Will they release patch for stability issue (On beta)? So, that even beta tester can give a proper testimonial about the stability of the game on the release?
- Is there any proper forum where beta tester can report bugs/stability issue?
- Am I expecting too much of this? or anyone has same concern as I do?
We might be expacting too much of this, especially since we have only 3 months till september. And i think a lot of ppl have the same concerns as you do.
Just like some other ppl have mentioned alreade. Please give us a update for the beta. Especially for optimization. I keep getting crashes it makes it unplayable. But the update should be more about that we can see how far things are. And especially for me it will be good because it will take away the worries i have about rushing the game and still having a lot of game breaking bugs.
yeah same here, I just don't dare to launch it anymore because I don't like having to shut down my PC manually lol
While I do share the same problems I wonder if there is time for fixing beta instead of developing the game, we have 3 months left now
but yes...would be nice to play beta normally
optimization and bug fixing firt please, %90 of my problems are related to them /: i want to try 3 times hitting warfare without ridicilous bugs, for example.
and i will tell this again and again, heroes is a strategy game so why we have that high system requirements i cannot understand.
i mean.. do i really have to buy a new laptop?.. for a strategy type game? sigh..
The game can never be finished in September. Almost every department needs work. It did not have to be 3D for me. focus on skills, spells and AI please. And a user friendly and smooth UI.