EnergyW Хитрец
Well, that is a stupid statement. Even if you get the random system, what about the rest of the game? I agree that the random skill system should be included, but it will be futile if rest is being trashed away.
25RobvD84 Безумец
Same can be said about the non-random system. It has to be really good. Besides random is what heroes was always about. I still hope they make a hybrid. But i do think non-random is going to have a hard time beating random.
And as i have said in a other post. If they indeed going for non-random they should make the level up system deep. Like certain other rpg's.
24BeYo_OnD Древний
They have time to adjust the game. I just know what I want, random skill system like in the old Heroes games. Didn't they say they wan't to take what's good from the previous installments and bring them in Heroes 7? Then why didn't they take the random skill system? It was amazing and much better than the system of Heroes 6.
I can accept a compromise, but I can't accept no randomness at all. I hope the devs will listen, I don't want another disaster like Heroes 6.
25logical.dust
Random system can be also screwed up. Its not guaranteed that if they include it that it will be good. But hopefully gameplay designers are as much talented as their art designers. I support your innitiative and feel sad that there was no reply from devs regarding this yet. Seems as our time had no value for them and talking to us is more less just the job.
30GalaadleHaut Герой
@EnergyW : You are not looking it the right way : if the game is good but there is no RS, it will be trash anyway, and by trash I mean, you will enjoy it for a while, then go back to H3 or H5, again.
#GURS
- http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=40444&PID=1262076#focus
24KhanOfSlaughter Завоеватель
"I will boycott each and every new blog entry with #GURS propaganda"
That doesn't make sense. If you're boycotting it means you're not participating in. You're virtually saying that you're not going to take part in the blogs, by taking part in the blogs...
30GalaadleHaut Герой
Stop being a smartass Khan you know what he means, or maybe your habit of trashing posters all the time blurs your comprehension ?
24KhanOfSlaughter Завоеватель
"or maybe your habit of trashing posters all the time blurs your comprehension ?" Or maybe your blind rage at Ubi's implementation of non-random skills blurs your comprehension.
30GalaadleHaut Герой
I am gonna take the liberty to quote a notorious gamer/modder here :
"H2-H3 were built on this random pattern, and the fact that you don't get everything as you want encourage exploration, stealing spells during fights, effective usage of secondary heroes and so on. I would certainly not enjoy a game where I am sure to get the spells and skills I need, because this would be the case for my opponent too, hence no fun in beating him if same build."
My "hate" is not blind, quite on the contrary.
24BeYo_OnD Древний
@Khan, I have abstained from discussing the the original topic of the blog entry and brought up instead a more important issue. That's what I meant by boycotting. I mentioned #GURS to present the reason why I decided to do this. It would've been more absurd to do this but not explain why, right?
21bjarked Советник
So she is one of the those people how make spits slaves.
#GURS
30EnergyW Хитрец
And please no discussions on changing the gender. Unnecessary, annoying and tiresome.
21Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
But so are the "ivan is a player" blah blah blah. Maybe they will make him gay to shut these stupid tangents up. :p
29Necromancer1981 Древний
my Necropolis :
Core
+ Skeleton / Skeleton archer ............http://pixs.ru/showimage/post303287_7659286_14910545.jpg
+ Ghost / Poltergeist .......................http://pixs.ru/showimage/ghostjpg_6814466_14910702.jpg
or Zombie / Ghoul ............................http://pixs.ru/showimage/71969jpg_2203141_14910577.jpg
+ Mummy / Mummy of Pharaoh ........http://pixs.ru/showimage/Bezimyanni_2687374_14908730.png
29Necromancer1981 Древний
Elite
+ Vampire / Vampire lord (Nosferatu) ...http://pixs.ru/showimage/31256jpg_9145453_14910586.jpg
+ Lich / Arch Lich ..............................http://pixs.ru/showimage/archlichjp_7896814_14908256.jpg
+ Death Knight / Knights of Horror .......http://pixs.ru/showimage/DarkKnight_5435956_14911611.jpg
29Necromancer1981 Древний
Champions
+ Twilight Dragon / Astral Dragon ........http://pixs.ru/showimage/fantasy46j_8423198_14911131.jpg
or Spinner / weaver fates ....................http://pixs.ru/showimage/imagejpg_9526582_14911348.jpg
+ Аngel of Darkness / Angel of Death ..http://pixs.ru/showimage/AngelofDea_5667122_14910595.png
messengers of death - I really like
Do not know who to replace them) .......http://pixs.ru/showimage/Deathjpg_1586766_14911690.jpg
30GalaadleHaut Герой
I don't like the pixs but I like the lineup ))
11Skoppye Таинственный
totaly agree with u GalaagleHaut exapt the Dragon pix and well ther are actualy mmh pixs
8Tolstich0k
Крутой составчик), полный набор нечисти, так сказать)
19Bongowomabt Свирепый
nice idea hope it will be something like that :)
21DarMior Бродяга
Necromancer1981, лучше заменить изображение "Ангела Смерти" на какое-нибудь другое. Ибо это изображение "Ангела Тьмы", а именно Безликого (ранний концепт появившийся ещё до 6-ки).
29Necromancer1981 Древний
да какая разница когда он появился...смотрится и по сей день красиво (мне лично его таким хочется видеть в игре)
какие бы картинки тут не были - Юбики сделают образы существ по своему
мне больше всего хочется чтобы они сделали состав Некрополиса схожим с моим лайнапом,
а по художественной части - думаю они не подкачают )
21DarMior Бродяга
Я просто хотел обратить внимание, что то изображение - изображение ранней версии Безликого. Просто мне показалось немного странным такой выбор изображения, хотя само по себе оно вполне соответствует Ангелу Смерти (не зря же Белкет так похож на этого "Безликого").
30Mirash_ge Дракон
Да можно просто нарисовать падшего ангела типа как в гер 5 , или как в гер 6 арха раскрасить в черно-красное .Будет красиво
30Mirash_ge Дракон
Тут дело в аксессуарах , пару там черепков подрисовать на рукавчики - разберуться художники
11bartoshi
She looks great! Also her Bio is interesting, but I wonder when morons ranting "why is she female" or "real mage should have a beard" start showing up :D
22JeremiahEmo Разрушитель
she's female because of feminist quota and Social Justice Warriors screeching and whining about the lack of females in the game even though they're doing absolutely nothing to contribute to the game's sales.
That's just Ashan-style Affirmative Action.
17damianjcoles Преданный
I wish to see the Ubisoft post that reveals this "feminist quota" you are speaking of.
22JeremiahEmo Разрушитель
@damianjcoles
please. If you're doing something you know it's wrong, you wouldn't blatantly say it to the public. You hide it. Feminist's Affirmative Action is wrong to normal, smart people but Ubi has to do it because feminists will scream and whine. And we all know what power feminists hold in our society.
17damianjcoles Преданный
No Jeremiah, you claimed that Ubisoft has a feminist quota. Such a wild accusation needs proof. You seem to have a knack for making claims but never backing them up with proof. It's time to provide significant evidence to back up what you're saying.
21Qanger Великолепный
Ivan is ladies man and she's a beautiful, romantic seductress which saved his life... I sense a romance ;P
21bjarked Советник
You make it sound like it is a god thing.
#GURS
30EnergyW Хитрец
Hell yeah! The best one I can remember is Elwin and Shaera from H4, it was a good story.
21bjarked Советник
Yes it is annoying and pointless. if it is between a main character and someone in the background, it can be fine. but between to main characters that is just gonna be much.
22Articun Бродяга
My Ideal Necropolis
Core
Trapper Spider / Moonsilk Trapper - melee, barrow, poison
Skeleton Archer / Ebon Archer - Saboteur, ranged, lowers initiative, chance to immobilize
Ghost / Banshee - Support, lowers initiative, life drain
Elite
Lich / Lich Lord - Ranged, Caster, Raise Undead
Vampire / Black Knight - Teleport, Life Drain, Tank, Terror aura
Mummy / Forgotten King - Saboteur, Caster (random curses)
Champion
Fate Spinner / Fate Weaver - Dual Form, Multi Attack
Reaper / Death Bringer
22Articun Бродяга
The lack of strong damage dealers is combated by the presence of various abilities of weakening enemies, making them slow, immobilizing them or causing extra damage each turn. That way, the enemy is forced to fight in his lower state and the longer the battle goes on, the more undead are raised either by Liches or by the player, so the necro army replenishes while the enemy decreases.
22Articun Бродяга
Also the balance between male and female units are kept, with 2 female (ghost/banshee and Fate weaver), 3 male units (Vampire, Lich and Mummy) and 2 asexual units (skeleton and Reaper). The spider i leave to your imagination. True the only new units are the Reapers and the spiders but i have tried to kept old time favorites, merge some of them (Vampire - Black Knight) or change them a bit (Banshee)
21Najakir Криган
Very intresting ! What sort of unit would be the reaper ?
22Articun Бродяга
Damage Dealer and a heavy one. Terror aura as well (he is death ;) ) and weakening strike, maybe with agony with every first hit on a target
28Chiasa Безумец
I really like your ideas, putting mummy so high is an interesting choice, but makes sense considering focus on debuffing enemies. I'd like to see that in action :D
21Najakir Криган
As chiasa, I didn't think of puting mummy as elit, but in fact, it's very logical : they are very well-prepared undead !
22Articun Бродяга
Imagine Mummies as old shantiri empire kings, that were buired with powerful charms and artifacts, brought again to life with all of those enchantments and the ability to curse those that are to harm them. For necromancers, they hold the keys to old knowledge (those that keep their mind truly intact) but that knowledge is not used for power or destruction or interference with how life unfolds, but more, with how best to safeguard balance of life and death.
22Articun Бродяга
Now the reapers, are very old spirits, so in tune with their state that have become blessed by Asha to be the ones to receive a dying soul and deliver it to her to the moon. But fate is sometimes bent (as the name Fate weaver suggest of the Namtaru) and those powerful death spirits are there to receive the appropriate amount of souls ;)
14Thea_Elyra Маг
I really like your line-up, Articun :) I especially enjoy the backstory of the mummies, really fits the lore of the world, I feel. Good mix of new and old units. I also like how the Necropolis armies are gradually getting stronger over time in a battle (with weakening effects). Good job! :)
22Articun Бродяга
Thank you very much :)
I really try to be as accurate to the game as possible without going too far or out of balance. there is a lot of history to the game and also a lot of opposing thoughts about how a faction could be or evolve. But in the new universe we need to implement old and new units appropriately using what ubisoft has given us in other games and in lore.
28Chiasa Безумец
I image the spiders instead of poisoning the target, being able to immobilize it with web for a turn or 2 as an activated ability
22Articun Бродяга
why not do both by chance ;)
for example 20% chance to poison, 10% chance to immobilize(evolved ability only). Barrow ability maybe falsely used. Better to be ignore obstacles by climbing over them (as normal spiders do). But active ability to shoot webs could also be nice. Though for some reason, i weight towards chance
19CenturionHavok Бродяга
Great lineup! This is something that I, who never ever ever plays Necropolis, would be interested in trying out!
28Chiasa Безумец
Hmm, come to think of it, yeah a chance is better than activation. I thought about it because spiders have some potential :D and ranged skeletons with chance to immobilize seem slightly op to me - a meele unit still risks retaliation. But lowering initiative shots are great
22Articun Бродяга
It would make for some slow game i know that, but it could prove to be very strategic as every creature is somehow diverse. There is no similar correlation with other factions, nor does the tempo feel the same. But it is unique and i believe it captures the feel of Necropolis. They live forever so they have patience. They have experienced much so they know time could change everything and lastly "Asha uses all" :)
22Articun Бродяга
Maybe immobilize strike is a bit OP, but imagine a chance of 10% to do so. And also, see the core lineup as a whole. There is no true damage dealer, so the trick to victory is to keep your enemy away as much as possible, while you attack with ghosts that regenerate because of life drain and spiders that may poison the enemy and cause extra damage on the consecutive turns. That way, immobilization of a unit becomes vital.
28Chiasa Безумец
Sure and being as squishy as they are slowing enemies down is logical.
As for Reaper I think it'd be cool if it had active ability to damage all living enemies on adjacent tiles, while healing/reviving neighbouring undead, it could have a limit to be used only once per battle.
Or same but much weaker for banshee
22Articun Бродяга
That would make him a more supportive unit and i don't want that. There is already too much support in lower tiers. Banshee has her life drain to keep herself from loosing numbers easily, and lowers initiative with each attack. She could be made to have an ability to heal as the ghost in Heroes 6.
The Reaper is instead a heavy attacker that cause terror (to run away specific tiles) to those that try to attack him head on and agony and weakness to those he strikes for the first time.
21Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
Also, it looks like some form of summoning will be back in! I hope the Conjuration school sees a return.
21bjarked Советник
It wount, we are going to have the same magic types form H6.
But... the is a chace that prime magic will have Conjeration magic, because it is the type of magic which is used to make constructs and spirits.
19viragosg Свирепый
"Why Ivan has three girl in his council?"
: P
21Qanger Великолепный
Anastasya is too... dead for him though.
15Kornbeef Тень
Who wouldn't want 3 women on their council? :P
30EnergyW Хитрец
Oh... probably the trolls that have spammed the last blog too much and too long with their unargumented statements.
21bjarked Советник
@Qanger
I think it more of her being his aunt (or something like that)
Because who says that he is not a necrofil.
24RRick_CZ Триумфатор
+ we haven seen the Elven councilor yet .. so maybe even 4
16Semparon Безумец
+ from sylvan and dungeon, I will be surprised, when, from those factions we haven't got women, From dungeon, this is a must
21Antikouras Бродяга
@Qanger
haha ''too dead for him'' nice one :DD
21Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
" + from sylvan and dungeon, I will be surprised, when, from those factions we haven't got women, From dungeon, this is a must "
Sylvan I would strongly expect a male character, and for Dungeon, it has been represented by them since VI, e.g. Raelag and his brothers. I would like to see Eruina take a more decisive role, but equally I want some men on the council, too.
24RRick_CZ Триумфатор
Spy master is the one which will be telling the story of Dungeon campaign, so it leaves only Sylvan councilor to be un-known
19NACH00OO Советник
Academy sound so morally dubious and focused on their own agenda, they should be a great and interesting faction because of it
18Lord_Camilus
When you wrote that, I really recognise her! :D
15celitonto Мародер
I think it will be kinda fun to have Nelly in the game :-D
30mediczero Молот судьбы
Haven = grassland/farmland
Academy = desert
Stronghold = I'm not sure on this one... Badlands maybe?
Necropolis = wasteland
Sylvan = forest
Dungeon = underground
Fortress = snow/underground
Sanctuary = jungle
Inferno = lava
21bjarked Советник
Stronghold will properly be either desert or mountains, because we had tropic island in h6. hope it will be desert (shaar). then we may see wolf riders (but properly not)
30mediczero Молот судьбы
I actually hope we'll see a heroes V style stronghold. So mountains would be cool. No matter what I want the wyvern back!
12GlaciusVanThom Таинственный
Good idea! Stronghold maybe clastic land?
12GlaciusVanThom Таинственный
Without this no orcs wolf riders
30mediczero Молот судьбы
Swampland is the reason we need the old fortress back!
There is no faction living in the swampland (though sanctuary maybe a bit)
29Necromancer1981 Древний
@mediczero :
agree with all styles except fractions Sanctuary ...
why they - Jungle? Ocean water or style it is more appropriate
30mediczero Молот судьбы
Because that's where they live. In a jungle filled with life and WATER...
12GlaciusVanThom Таинственный
The old Fortress hmm yea-ea-ea-ah,yea-ea, I feel Fortress, yea-ea-ea-ah,yea-ea,always Fortress :D
29Necromancer1981 Древний
in the jungle - a little water ...
they can not survive )))))))))
12GlaciusVanThom Таинственный
Riding nation I would imagine the future bottom! easy rider, heavy rider, archery rider, wizard rider you call Gandalf :D
30mediczero Молот судьбы
Actually, If you play the sactuary campaign in heroes 6, you'll see how much water there is in Hashima's jungles...
29Necromancer1981 Древний
Yes, I played the company - H6 ... but it seems to me that the water style (ocean) suitable Sanctuary better
29Necromancer1981 Древний
jungle - it's impenetrable thickets (mostly forest)
and forest - it Silvan
30mediczero Молот судьбы
I find it quite fitting, Better than just having a city in the middel of the open ocean...
12GlaciusVanThom Таинственный
Unfortunately, I could not even play with Heroes 6! Unfortunately, I could not even play with six Heroes! All fractions containing the H7? They talked about the old Fortress. The new Fortress and the Inferno can also be included. Only the missing Conflux
14Renaughn Великолепный
Next post by ubi will either be another gameplay post... or hopefully the updated academy page.
14Renaughn Великолепный
I am pleased that the wizards are now being protrayed as sexy beautiful people. It suits the lore of academy as sybarites and people who seek to gain power through discipline.
I like this a lot more than the traditional picture of wizards as decaying, barely alive people. We got the necromancera for that. Haha
14Renaughn Великолепный
Haha sorry. I just like it when magic caster/int heavy classes are holistic. It never made sense to me how they would always be depicted as super frail when a strong body is part of having a strong mind.
By no means are they as physically imposing as strength characters tho... it just sends a better message for me if people try not to suck so much at one in expense of another.
23Kaanzakin Бродяга
:D I agree, classical 'old wise wizard grandfathers' kinda got boring, this is a fresh breath.(actually Zehir was a fine character too) I would have loved to see battlemages such as the picture in Academy page of this blog, that would have been exciting and brought a different playstyle to Academy.
23Kaanzakin Бродяга
Also +1 for your full metal alchemist reference: 'To train the mind to its fullest, you have to train the body as well.'
14Renaughn Великолепный
Actually had Yukio Mishima in mind but full-metal alchemist is an awesome show so will now have both in mind. Thank you!
23darioio
Hope dev again don't concentrate too much on such a meaningless stuff as endless stories and put they mind on things that really matters! C'mon in the end we want too play a strategy game, not read a book with nice pictures! Why don't they take a lesson from a previous failure!?
30mediczero Молот судьбы
OKay, there need to be sure that ALL works perfectly, and have plenty of lore...
21bjarked Советник
@darioio
Have you ever played 3 or 4, every campaign was more or less read read for half an hour, then play a hour. these games has always been about reading a lot of lore.
So no they should keep making a ton of lore which we can digg into.
30Mirash_ge Дракон
showered pictures ))))
закидали картинками )
30Sempai_Mur Тень
@bjarked, what is "4"? Was there a game 4 in Heroes franchise? - No, didn't hear.
Third was much to read? - fulishness. Few descriptions during the gameplay (DURING THE GAMEPLAY, not a separate book). The game should contain the whole story inside it. Not outside. See, man?
23darioio
@bjaeked
Of course I did, and I loved a story line in H4, but I don't need 5 page explanations why we had naga in Academy Castle, I just played it as it was!
You are unfortunately confusing and mixing two separate things
25logical.dust
Agreed. I also would like to remind that it is not the story what made H3 most sucessfull in the serie. People dont play game over and over due to story. Gameplay mechanics is most important thing which wasnt now improved in few years. Having good story and lore is nice and all, but in this case it is at the cost or other important things.
BeYo_OnD ДревнийNovember 26, 2014 18:15:08
I do not care about these bios as much as I care for the features of the game. I will boycott each and every new blog entry with #GURS propaganda until the devs take notice of us and listen to the community's voice.
#GURS