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Ubi-Nox Тень смерти
November 14, 2014 17:46:14

Please remember that those votes are yours and it is important to respect other people choices. We don't want to exclude any people opinion, we understand that some of you might be disappointed by the results but assaulting other members or using rude language isn't part of the vision of this blog.

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 14, 2014 17:47:15

Well said Devs

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:47:31

Tell that to SlumbrousShips5, he has been calling us you know what because faces won...

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Shambell 
November 14, 2014 17:49:28

What about the ability to down vote some people and to ignore some spamming users ?

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:50:10

Indeed, are you thinking of implementing some kind of moderation system?

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:51:25

please please give us the re-vote to the sylvan faction ...

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:52:06

@Lukis122
You never give up, do you? xD

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:57:00

yes i will never give up .. one of my favourite factions are destroyed now cuz of ppl that wanted old boring unit...

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Eltheris Бродяга
November 14, 2014 18:01:11

then mod this to your liking and not ask someone to do this job

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JotunLogi 
November 14, 2014 18:05:12

Lukis, have You lost Your mighty spirit? Where are posts about 3d towns? (really liked them although a bit spammy) :D

Yeah, I am also against insulting other people but think that there should be some moderator with a ban system for a language that does not suit this fantastic universe

p.s. @Ubi- Nox, please answer my post, it is near the bottom of the comments!!!

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CanWakhan Маг
November 14, 2014 18:07:37

You are actually the moderators and it should be very clear that some sort of behavior won't be treated well here. Especially offending other people or their choices.

Lukis122: I doubt it is destroyed. Maybe the line-up is not your preferred one, but it is going to be great anyway, especially when we won't get so many bugs at the release day. Game will be as interesting as developers will make it - it's greatness or weakens does not solely depend on community's choices.

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Black_Weaver Палач
November 14, 2014 18:09:21

Can you please make opportunity to choose every faction's line-up during the installation of the game? I think it will make everybody happy ;)

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JotunLogi 
November 14, 2014 18:15:14

@Black_Weaver

It is impossible, unfortunately. As many have written, there is not enoough money to make it happen + all factions should have such a possibility

And even if- why during installation and not in game as alternative as in HoMM 4? Multi and game could be broken cause of this situation (no access to some units and so).

But I will miss chimera ;(

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Black_Weaver Палач
November 14, 2014 18:24:07

JotunLogi, yes, you're right about HoMM 4's system. I mean that if they want to satisfy everyone, they can just let people make their choice in the game and include all these creatures in the faction)

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Elisabeth.... Преданный
November 14, 2014 18:47:57

They all behave differently...Have different attitude on the results.. This is the thousand faces in reality!

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RRick_CZ Триумфатор
November 14, 2014 20:34:42

The advantage of 3 tier system is to have more creature within a tier. I also hope they will add at least +1 core and +1 elite unit to choose from for each faction in the expansion... there are some great units in the universe, for ex. Dervish for Academy, Manticores for Dungeon etc. Would be a shame to not use them !

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 15, 2014 20:01:17

Is this directed at me? I'm so ashamed.....lol. Not.
Not surprised the old DEVS who take sides with the voting would obviously side with their supporters. Doesn't matter if I was just expressing my feedback on the vote when 12 year old Kaanzakin lashes out. Which is why started the whole argument. But again, not surprised to see the blue writing all one sided. He probably didn't even look anything other than what his supporter was accusing. W/e, game is another h6 anyway so I couldn't care les

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logical.dust 
November 17, 2014 00:18:04

@ Ubi-Nox : votes are ours, but lineup designs are not. Both sylvan and warlock lineups have been designed so people argue until end of time instead of some decent lineup was designed and won with significant advantage. There have been much better lineups proposed by fans, but you decided no ... there will be just theese ashanified three. Is again creative directors responsible for lineups? Why not use new ideas and create new faction? In every voting game looses some of its part. Why?

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:26:45

Important Announcement:
Apperently our spoiled little princess SlumbrousShip5 is not happy with the results of dungeon line-up vote and she says that all faces voters are fags. From now on please ask her before you vote, thank you...

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 14, 2014 17:29:14

Nailed it!

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:29:44

But when your boyfriend GAllahade whatever calls every new fan a NEWFAG you raise your glass to him? Haha at least I am who I am and don't try to act like I'm on everybody's side.

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:32:11

Or did your storm term memory kick in and you forgot all that?

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:32:24

Short*

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bobbingbobcat4u 
November 14, 2014 17:32:56

@Slumfag Hey MTF won brah, you mad?

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:33:06

I am pretty sure that my 'storm term memory' didn't kick in, idiot...

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:34:52

Oh so you just have no comment on that huh? You are indeed a hypocrite. Someone without a brain could even see that

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:36:06

Sorry i can't comment my 'storm term memory' just keeps kicking in, lol.

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:37:17

That's right ease out of it ya little pussy. "Grow some balls" why don't you?

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:38:01

Your scared you might lose some NEWFAGs that just joined your fan club?

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:38:49

Sorry i can't hear you, only sounds of pathetic crying and screaming are coming from your side.

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:39:46

Btw, i have warned him many times not to call people as fags.

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:43:07

Haha that's what I thought. You're a bitch on forums because you are so desperately trying to make friends. even NEWFAGS as you so call them wouldn't want to spend more thank a min wih you IRL

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:43:52

But anyways I'm out get your last word in

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:45:05

Finally, some peace.

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 14, 2014 17:45:44

@SlumbrousShips5

Wrong, I'm what he would call a newfag, but I'm I have nothing against him...

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 15, 2014 19:11:29

Mediczero:
Of course, your making medusa fan art, clearly desperate for friends I'd understand you liking someone that calls you a fag, at least they're giving you attention.

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 15, 2014 19:16:46

Orospu Çocuğu

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logical.dust 
November 17, 2014 00:25:12

Wow, this is really important to know 23 upvotes. Good to see productive atmosphere around here. Also didnt know that SlumbrousShip5 is a girl. Quite passion for pc games for a girl :)

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RRick_CZ Триумфатор
November 14, 2014 19:03:39

Good job guys :) Just please give us real Dragons, not butterflies :-P

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Black_Weaver Палач
November 14, 2014 19:08:51

And with real shadow/fire breath, not biting!

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RRick_CZ Триумфатор
November 14, 2014 19:14:12

Of course ! Dont even remind me that biting animation :-D Fire breath is a must

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Elisabeth.... Преданный
November 14, 2014 19:14:16

Haha, I suggest they re-do the wings for angels in the game. They make the angels look like butterflies too.

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Black_Weaver Палач
November 14, 2014 19:21:58

@Hierophant987

I think that angels are a shame now...

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RRick_CZ Триумфатор
November 14, 2014 19:36:20

What´s wrong with H7 Angels ? I actually like them a lot, they have feathery wings again, so I don´t have problem with them..

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Qanger Великолепный
November 14, 2014 19:57:56

Their hands are too small (etc.) :/

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Elisabeth.... Преданный
November 14, 2014 20:05:27

And they have no leg either.. Have you seen the picture in Haven's page? They look a bit like wights from necropolis in heroes 5...

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Black_Weaver Палач
November 14, 2014 21:03:04

@RRick_CZ

They are not proportional. Better than in H6 but worse than in H3 and H4. Their armor and swords are terrible... And they are hanging in the air, it would be better if they were standing. In fact, I like them too, but I just want them to look like that: http://u.mmdoc.ru/2014/07/s06_Cre_Hav_082-2.jpg

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MelancholiaNox 
November 17, 2014 13:28:44

Angels have no use for legs as they levitate at all times, so why would they put legs illogically on angels?

Think outside the box of conventional anthropomorphism, too much resemblance to humans destroys the angels' mystique. The H3 angels look the worst - like old men with feather wings - how unimaginative!

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 20:31:27

I ONLY GIVE VOTE TO CITADEL (SWAMP)

...Core...
- Gnoll/Gnoll Marauder, melee, walker
- Lizardmen/Lizardmen Warrior, ranged, piercing shot ability
- Serpent Fly/Dragon Fly, fast, flyer, debuffer

...Elite...
- Basilisk/Great Basilisk(aka777), dmg dealer
- Gorgon/Mighty Gorgon, dmg dlr, tank, Death stare ablty
- Mantis/Mantodea, fast fragile flyer, dbf

...Champions...
- Nix/Nix Warrior, Almighty Lizardmen ability, dmg dlr, dbf
- Carnivorous plant/Dionaea, slow, breeder, tank, swallowing ability

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 20:33:29

I don't like the nix idea, but anything else sounds cool..

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 20:36:25

Gorgon - what is this thing ... (jellyfish) ?

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 20:45:16

Nix here -- http://www.hota.acidcave.net/cove_units.html --

As for Gorgon.. --http://www.wallpapername.com/thumbnails/detail/20121101/mighty%20heroes%20of%20might%20and%20magic%20iii%20gorgon%201920x1080%20wallpaper_www.wallpapername.com_88.jpg --

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ptrsc Древний
November 15, 2014 20:45:16

Jellyfish, seriously...
It's an old unit:
http://nswgames.tripod.com/heroes3/gorgon.jpg
Also, in Greek mythology Medusa was one of the Gorgons

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 20:46:50

Gorgon : -- http://www.wallpapername.com/thumbnails/detail/20121101/mighty%20heroes%20of%20might%20and%20magic%20iii%20gorgon%201920x1080%20wallpaper_www.wallpapername.com_88.jpg --

And +1 ptrsc

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 20:48:49

@Galladlehaut

Cool enough, but I still think it needs a better name. That is a shame to the original nix...

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 20:52:10

@mediczero : Yea well it's not like we are going to see this anytime soon though !!!

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 20:53:55

@GalaadleHaut

Sadly. I may never have played heroes III, But if there is two things from the game I would like to try, then it is the behemoth and the fortress faction.

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 20:54:49

@mediczero : Go play Heroes 3 !!!! Now !!!!! =)))))))))))

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 20:55:39

@GalaadleHaut

Can't, of various reasons...

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 21:02:46

?? You seem to have a working CPU ??

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 21:04:28

@GalaadleHaut

not that, I just don't have it, no idea how I can get it, and no money to buy it for...

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darioio 
November 15, 2014 21:07:37

That would be great if Citadel comes back!
Nice line-up, but not really sure bout Nix thing
And again one core archer? It might be again to weak, plus I don't like piercing shot ability, not again

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Antikouras Бродяга
November 15, 2014 21:08:18

no money? sell your house
but you have to try the game

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 21:09:43

@mediczero : It costs 3 bucks at at Good Old Games

-- http://www.gog.com/game/heroes_of_might_and_magic_3_complete_edition--

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ptrsc Древний
November 15, 2014 21:09:55

@mediczero
right now you can buy Heroes 3 on gog.com for ~3 euro
belive me it's worth it:)

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 21:10:05

@GalaadleHaut

Hahaha... NO!

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 21:11:04

@ptrsc

I'm not buying anything yet...

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 21:11:44

@darioio : What do you mean not again ?? This isn't what we had in MMH6. It's an ability having x% chance to trigger x% more damage.
Have you seen the picture of Nix I posted ? If you don't like it you're out of here :)

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 21:12:31

@mediczero : You know there are other way... But 3 bucks is a given lol

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 21:13:26

@darioio : there is one core archer but also a flyer... THE SERPENT FLIES !!!!!!!

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 21:13:39

@GalaadleHaut

Still not buying anything...

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 21:14:28

@mediczero : OKAY

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 15, 2014 21:18:21

@GalaadleHaut

All is hell that ends well... or should I say all is inferno that ends well?

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darioio 
November 15, 2014 21:24:06

Yeah I know, I've seen it in the line-up. I also remember H3, and Citadel wasn't too strong, one of the reasons was very weak archer.
No I mean, already 2 units have piercing ability in H7, so maybe something new? I don't know like poisoning - like in H3 Wyvern had

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Raenus Свирепый
November 15, 2014 21:37:07

Love the lineup GalaadleHaut. Really good idea to replace the Hydra with Nix, and the carnivorous plant sounds awesome. The only thing I don't really like is the mantis but, seeing as the wyvern is in Stronghold now, I don't know what else you could replace it with.

And mediczero I won't try and convince you any more. But I will say that you are really missing out by not getting it and if you ever do get the chance please consider getting it. Either at good old games or directly from uplay shop

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GalaadleHaut Герой
November 15, 2014 21:50:13

@Raenus : Thank you :)
Dionaea was suggested by Enmerkar2011 and Mantis by JotunLogi from this board =)

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Owindrael 
November 15, 2014 21:51:20

mmm good idea ^^

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vitaldeath89 
November 16, 2014 10:24:56

Needs a Swamp Thing!

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Ferns_Bocaj 
November 14, 2014 17:55:20

HIP HIP HYDRAAA!!!

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kunYKA 
November 14, 2014 18:56:57

hydras would be in HoMM VII in 100% ways

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Kimarous Великолепный
November 14, 2014 19:00:06

I'm pretty sure that was meant as a "hip hip hurrah" with a "hydra" pun to flavor it for Dungeon./explainjoke]

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Alalaika Преданный
November 14, 2014 19:31:48

MAMMOTH FOR STRONGHOLD ! If that was possible, i would start loving stronghold :p

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RRick_CZ Триумфатор
November 14, 2014 19:40:10

Yeah, would be cool. There is a War Oliphant unit in DoC, and they are living in Sahaar deserts if Im not mistaken ? (Im not sure though), so they could show up in H7 .)

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Alalaika Преданный
November 14, 2014 19:46:03

Yeah, i saw the unit in DoC, great unit !, could be a nice tank, which means it's not impossible ;) !

It could be a 4square elite unit, hitting multiple target ^^, what awsome could it be #dreaming ^^

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Tokusatsu Безумец
November 14, 2014 19:54:15

Yes! Mammoth and Cyclops in Champion! Roc/Wyvern/Pao Kai in Elite! \o/

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RRick_CZ Триумфатор
November 14, 2014 19:59:51

So, speaking of Stronghold, my wishful line-up :

Goblin - shooter
Harpy - flyer
Gnoll - melee

Centaur - shooter
Shaman - spellcaster
War Oliphant - melee

Wyvern - flyer
Behemoth - melee

.. I know, just one orc, but there´s not place for more :P

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Alalaika Преданный
November 14, 2014 20:04:01

@RRick_CZ

Looking good ! I would just put thunder birds instead of wyvern (my opinion though...) ^^

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Mr.Rain Безумец
November 14, 2014 20:08:59

As a champion I would see the War Oliphant and the Cyclops.

By cons I do not really have very desires of Wyvern and Rocs.

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Elisabeth.... Преданный
November 14, 2014 19:19:08

Necropolis-- Mummies, death knights and vampires..;)
Stronghold-- Roc/Thunderbirds, Ogre magi!

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Najara_ Мародер
November 14, 2014 19:38:53

yes yes yes!!!

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Alalaika Преданный
November 14, 2014 19:48:31

Add Mammoth to stronghold :p ^^ (i will never give up for them), otherwise it's good ! ^^

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Mr.Rain Безумец
November 14, 2014 20:04:15

For the Necropolis:
Core -> Skeleton / skeleton archer - Mummy / Royal Mummy - Ghoul / Ravenous Ghoul
Elite -> Lich / Cardinal Lich (Heroes V) - Vampire / Nosferatu (Heroes V) - Returning / Banshee
Champion -> Dragon Skeleton / Dragon Spectral - Spinner of Fate / Destiny Weaver

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Elisabeth.... Преданный
November 14, 2014 20:08:25

btw, I always think the bone dragons are so weak thus I don't even want to see them anymore..:( Unless they make them like the ones in Heroes 4! That'd be so powerful!!

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 20:09:30

As long as there is no fate-weaver i am happy.

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gasping Тень
November 16, 2014 19:47:27

I think it would be amazing if each town had 5 different core units, 5 different elites, and 3 different champions, and you could choose which ones to get, and depending on your choice, different buildings can be constructed in you town (of course, you can only choose 3 cores, 3 elites, and 1 champ). This way, the game will have a lot of diversity, and each time you play, you will have different units and a different castle with different abilities.

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Cosadj Советник
November 16, 2014 20:07:43

Yeah, you're not the first one to say it. But I think their excuse will be limited budget and time.
It would save us from the line-up voting war, although that what makes this website fun ! :)

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JotunLogi 
November 16, 2014 21:07:23

Agreed with both of You on the topic.

I have thought about 6-6-2 system It would look lik this:
Core:
1) A or B
2) C or D
3) E or F

Same with elite. System be similar to HoMM 4- we would have to choose from 2 creatures. Each choice would be between troops of similar strength but both giving interesting optons (flyer or shooter, mmtank or damage dealer)

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Elfariam 
November 16, 2014 21:43:47

Amazing comment! Totalmente apoiado!

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pampalini4 
November 16, 2014 22:41:05

the problem with selectable units is the darn hard balancing (if you want to avoid different looking units with same specs). and one key element of this game is balancing. I'd love the idea too but am afraid due to lack of time and money, it'd lead to H4...

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Raenus Свирепый
November 16, 2014 22:49:48

I would personally love a variant of that system. I my perfect world they would add all of the lineups we voted on (and make two more different lineups for Haven, Stronghold, Academy, and Necropolis) and you would choose one of them at the beginning of each game. I think that they could make some really cool dlc for this game if they added a different lineup in each one. For instance dlc #1 could have Fortress and/or Inferno along with Blade from the Shadows and the runner up in the Sylvan vote.

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logical.dust 
November 16, 2014 23:43:11

All those who are afraid of balancing should remember that H3 was one of best in the serie and it wasnt much balanced.Balance can be always adjusted by altering few creature parameters in the beta testing or in later patches if people complain too much. Balance as argument to not do something is really poor one. I definetly would support more creature posibilities and even more unit tiers. 7 was more less standart, even 8 would be good. I have really no idea why 3 were introduced ...

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logical.dust 
November 16, 2014 23:49:10

in H6 and then it was kept in H7. It makes game more shalow and creatures more alike as they have to be more less equally good. It also destroys the feel of progress as you develop same army tier. I would even suggest to make 8 tiers and each had 2-3 posibilities and you would not have to choose ... you could build all of them.... why not? You still can place only 7-8 in army additionally time and cost could pretty much balance it out. But why would they put more content? It would be too good.

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Niwroc Древний
November 17, 2014 00:07:14

This would be good but I have to say that I am not a fan of the core/elite/ champion system, I preferred it when each new creature unlock was slightly better than the previous one so it felt like I was constantly advancing and that creatures could be several tiers apart and still stand a decent chance against each other. With the 3 tier system it feels like there is only a handful of power jumps and that too much is decided by getting there first.

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ramborusina 
November 17, 2014 02:24:15

The idea in itself is nice, I've suggested it multiple times that they could add 1 unit to each tier in all expansions for example(extra champion every 2nd expansion). It's just waste of time to ask for it in vanilla since it would require extra work from them without certainty of extra profit. They won't go over and beyond, that much is clear from their comments and attitude so far(for example during the live demo).

@logical they use 1-2 abilities as it's easier and faster to do(+balancing).

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ramborusina 
November 17, 2014 02:42:02

@logical and as for the 3-tier system: The most likely reason they decided to go with it is the easiness of it. Balancing creatures is much easier and faster for them when they use only 3 tiers. It also gives them excuse for making so few creature dwellings on the maps when single building can boost simply core, elite or champion units in general instead of each core unit for example needing specific building. Using 7-tiers would just bring extra work for them so they wouldn't wanna do that -.-

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logical.dust 
November 17, 2014 05:27:41

@ ramborusina : well unfortunatelly, you are most likely right. They are being creative in the wrong way I would say. Many iconic units replaced for no reason with some madeup ashan lore and then no improvement in game mechanics or overall game complexity or content amout. Whoever is in charge of budget decisions should be fired right away. In many aspects game feels more as regress than a progress, but ok ... its not finished yet, will see how it will turn out in the end.

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dct_a 
November 14, 2014 17:30:53

УРА!!!

MEDUSA is very happy!
MEDUSA is satisfied!
She tells us:
«Thank you, people!
Together we will fight!
Together we will be winners!
True power is on our side!
Together we’ll make world better!
Be sure I will save your life!»:D

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 14, 2014 17:32:17

MEDUSA is getting soem awesome fanart...

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JotunLogi 
November 16, 2014 10:00:03

Discussions about women and feminism gve me inspiration for new faction- Amazons :D

Rhere would be amazons, valkyries, nimphs, sirens, gorgons and some other stuff (medusa would be perfect). There would be also animals like panthers and giant snakes

Theme (scenery) would be jungle (Papua New Guinea and Pacfic islands) - architecture a bit ancient greek, a bit aztec and a bit african and, of course pacific) :D

Idea is crazy and would rather not suit the whole game... but why not :D

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Cosadj Советник
November 16, 2014 10:14:31

The problem is that it doesn'thave areal identity :\
What you just said is a castle full of random creature which shares their feminity.

We can see behind Haven, academy and every other existing factions a society (the lore) which also explains the line-ups.

Not saying it's a bad idea tough, but dev gotta work real hard to make this one work out :D

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JotunLogi 
November 16, 2014 10:23:11

agreed! :D

It makes no sense at all but it does not need to (only lore I can imagine is that wizard named Jeremiah Emo has forbidden all female charcters to join armies and use magic so they have created their own faction- without male characters)

although, to be honset, it would be cool to see units like amazons (looking like greek warriors) and valkyries (looking more nordic)

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KhanOfSlaughter Завоеватель
November 16, 2014 10:24:58

"(only lore I can imagine is that wizard named Jeremiah Emo has forbidden all female charcters to join armies and use magic so they have created their own faction- without male characters)"

Wow! Hahaha! You just made my year! Best post ever!

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Cosadj Советник
November 16, 2014 10:27:05

JotunLogi, You killed me ! XD

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 16, 2014 10:42:50

Hmm It's not a bad idea, but it need some work done to it...

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Popcioslav Великолепный
November 16, 2014 10:59:20

Such a great idea! It does need some polish, but I aproove it anyway.

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 16, 2014 11:14:59

Hahahah, cudos JotunLogi :D

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JeremiahEmo Разрушитель
November 16, 2014 11:19:23

I am actually ok with this as long as:
1. We get rid of Justicars in Haven and replace them with Griffins.
2. Gargoyles are in male form/genderless and Djinns are male.
3. Druids, Blade Dancers and Hunters are male.

This Amazon faction can replace Dungeon for all I care.

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Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
November 16, 2014 13:32:31

No need, Dungeon already fills this role.

As for druids, yes they should be male. Why the djinn etc. need to be male though is beyond me.

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Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
November 16, 2014 14:19:17

If I am honest though I liked Logical.dust's idea of splitting new Dungeon (Dark elves/Faceless and units like the strider and nightmare) into a separate dark elf faction, and leaving the old Dungeon as a random collection of monstrosities, however this might be resolved anyway should they decided to bring in a system whereby you can choose cores and elites out of a pool of 4 - 5. I do like your idea, though, but there is too much overlap with other factions.

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Sylv4n2005 Разрушитель
November 16, 2014 14:20:50

And really, a couple of female units per faction is hardly "feminism". Ok Dungeon is matriarchal - so what? 1 faction out of 9 being matriarchal is an issue? I like their Drow/WH dark elf vibe. Few strategy games offer this sort of faction. HV Dungeon was my favourite faction in the game's history, although this time round it looks like Sylvan or Academy will overtake it. I do wish they kept the druids male though. :/

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borkdenis 
November 15, 2014 06:08:25

Ладно, Юби решили посмеяться. Слепое мясо на ножках и медузы без окаменения... вам действительно это нужно? Уже предвижу комментарии после выхода семёрки в стиле "Мы не за это голосовали... Фу, пародия на тройку". Что дальше? На вип-голосовании выбран стелс-некрополис и орки-тактики? Если да "а я уже такому не удивлюсь", это станет последней каплей. Что ни говорите, а я вот люблю играть с продуманными, самобытными фракциями. Я тоже испытываю ностальгию по тройке, но ЭТО УЖЕ НЕ ТРОЙКА.

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Sanctuary_BD Тень
November 15, 2014 08:42:35

пародия на 3ку была в Щите, но никак не в Лицах

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Black_Weaver Палач
November 15, 2014 10:18:00

Начнем с того, что нигде не сказано, что у медуз не будет окаменения. Троглодиты здесь вообще, я думаю будут представлены в новом лице, т.к. если меня не подводит мое паршивое знание английского языка, то в описании сказано, что они могут передвигаться под землей, то есть, наверное, игнорировать препятствия, фактически заменяя таким образом летающих существ. Я бы не делал преждевременные выводы, даже такой состав армии в принципе могут нормально реализовать.

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DarMior Бродяга
November 15, 2014 10:49:57

Black_Weaver, начнём с того, что у медуз будет гипноз. Вы хотите сказать, что у них будет и гипноз, и окаменение? А не жирно ли? Далее, если троглодиты будут передвигаться под землёй, то они наверняка будут слепыми (как кроты).
Тут у человека претензия в первую очередь именно к целостности и самобытности фракций. И в 5-ке всё это было (пусть в некоторых случаях и слизано с какого-нибудь вархаммера или ещё чего). В 6-ке они продолжили развивать эти качества (некроманты, орки, люди, демоны, наги).

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DarMior Бродяга
November 15, 2014 10:50:04

С появлением ТЭ в 6-ке они нарушили эту последовательность, сделав из расы зверинец. И вот в 7-ке продолжается этот регресс. Причём пока относительно только ТЭ. Остальные всё же продолжают развиваться (хотя и тут начали появляться заимствования из старых частей).

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agar6 Безумец
November 15, 2014 11:07:09

В Вархаммере ТЭ тоже всяких тварей в бой пускают (и медуза есть), тут чем хуже?)

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borkdenis 
November 15, 2014 11:10:02

Да, ДарМиор, ты меня правильно понял. Расписал бы попонятнее, да ограничение по символам мешает. За ТЭ в пятёрке было действительно интересно играть. Быт, культура, особая атмосферность. А самое главное - юниты были соответствующими этой фракции. Сейчас же ТЭ становятся уродливой помесью тройки и непонятно чего.

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DarMior Бродяга
November 15, 2014 11:21:43

agar6, тем, что ТЭ будут полной копией из вархаммера? В 5-ке они уже много позаимствовали, но всё же были фракцией тёмных эльфов. А теперь они сделали из них сначала зверинец, потом просто набор разных существ, при этом сделав их ещё большей копией ТЭ из вархаммер.
Если Подземелья в конечном итоге хотят сделать таким же, как в 3-ке, то зачем было делать из них тёмных эльфов? К академии в этом плане же нет претензий.

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neytos Тень
November 15, 2014 11:28:35

и, правда, зоопарк нас ждём и салат тухлый)

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agar6 Безумец
November 15, 2014 11:40:59

"Если Подземелья в конечном итоге хотят сделать таким же, как в 3-ке, то зачем было делать из них тёмных эльфов?"
Ну, видимо, сидят у Юбиков очень оригинальные лороделы или маркетологи. "Это как так, подземелье и без полуголых темных эльфик?", а теперь нужно поднимать репутацию серии всеми средствами.
Не думаю, что тут они смогут по вархаммерности переплюнуть пятерку, там вообще как-то сложно было воспринимать их как что-то самостоятельное.

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Whitles Тень
November 15, 2014 14:36:35

Начнем с того, что Юби не понимает что ей

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Whitles Тень
November 15, 2014 14:37:44

делать с серией героев.

Пятая часть дала мощный пинок для развития, но мы наблюдаем начиная с шестой части жесткий регресс

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Whitles Тень
November 15, 2014 14:41:29

Во первых - отказ от введенной шкалы инициативы.
Во вторых - отказ от замков, как от замков титульной нации (шестерка), и уход в сторону солянки (1-4, 6, и 7)
В третьих - а где вы видели не солянку во всех трех лайнапах? Заливать про безликого, как представителя расы - бред.
В четвертых - изменение основ изначальной механики в сторону упрощения. Зоны контроля, форты и т.д. все это началось с шестой части и является существенным упрощением геймплея.

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Whitles Тень
November 15, 2014 14:43:37

Почему я говорю, что они не понимаю куда же им идти?
Попытки ввести инновации методом упрощения - первый признак непонимания как же оно работает на самом деле.
После успешной пятой части и темного мессии, необходимо было сосредоточится на развитии уже выбранных механик.
Т.е. Усложнять механику пятерки и предоставлять действительно ее развитие в шестой части.
Создавать новый слешер от первого лица в вселенной меча и магии.
Продолжить серию МиМ, даже уже в не пошаговом режиме, сразу после Мессии.

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Whitles Тень
November 15, 2014 14:46:54

Мы же наблюдаем бюджетизацию, придание забвению всей вселенной.
Хотя определенные попытки что то сделать есть. К примеру тот же МиМ 10. Бюджетно но близко к истории. Но давайте не будем забывать что оно появилось на волне успеха легенд Гримрока. Т.е. Попытка урвать куш, пока оно востребовано. .
Создание он лайновой части - частичная попытка занять рынок планшеток и браузерок чем то своим, пока оно еще востребовано. Но наедятся на развитие в этом направлении...

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Black_Weaver Палач
November 15, 2014 15:22:11

DarMior, троглодиты всегда были слепы (в Героях, я имею в виду;) ). А на счет того, не слишком ли жирно медузам иметь обе способности, то я думаю, что нисколько, т.к. окаменевать они могут лишь в ближнем бою, до чего дело, как мне кажется, будет доходить нечасто, а гипноз, допустим, на расстоянии, раз за битву там, и то, быть может, только у улучшенной медузы. Думаю дисбаланса не возникнет. А на счет самобытности, согласен с вами, хотя лично мне все равно, что этот юнит уже был где-то раньше.

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Timur0705 Древний
November 16, 2014 06:17:44

Достали ныть фанаты клинков, хорошо хоть ещё одну фракцию не загадили!

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Timur0705 Древний
November 16, 2014 06:20:10

Whitles, мне как фанату меч и магии 6-9 не пришлась по душе полная пошаговость 10-й части. Зачем ломать то, что хорошо работало? И герои 6 тоже разочаровали, это шаг в пропасть был. НУ на 7-е я конечно возлагаю большие надежды, судя по всему они по всем статьям будут круче 6-х раз в 100.=))))

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borkdenis 
November 16, 2014 08:09:19

Ну, загадили - не загадили, каждому своё. Вот тебе нравится, а по-моему фракцию убили в ХЛАМ. И как проигравшая сторона мы имеем полное право ныть)

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denisa016 Безумец
November 14, 2014 16:56:20

Wow im so surprised Faces won, i never saw this coming! (sarcasm!)
Great job everyone, we managed to save yet another faction from mediocrity!

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 16:57:09

Indeed my friend :).

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:02:02

saved hahahah nice joke ;D sylvan line up is total disaster nothing more, this should never happen... kids wanted old boring blade dancers when we could have new root snakes (very interesting unit) emerald knights and phoenixes instead of them...

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:03:38

Yeah, fury was a big mistake, too bad we can't do anything to change it.

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:06:42

i think we could speak to developers for the re-vote for sylvan...

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:07:55

I wish too but they have already started working on Fury :/

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:09:40

Already did lukis
Got a fat NO from Kimmundi, with no reasons

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:14:56

omg so bad sooooo bad -.- sylvan was one of my favourite factions, now i hate them... the kids who love old boring blade dancers destroyed this faction ... i hope i really really hope they will add the other line ups in expansion so we cuold have then 3 line up to all factions, its my biggest wish for this game

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 17:17:06

No bad lukis no, i think we have had enough of your wishes, no need to start spamming them again. We know your wishes, developers know your wishes even my blind grandmother knows your wishes so don't start with that shit again, please.

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SlumbrousShip5 Свирепый
November 14, 2014 17:17:29

Slyvan used to be my favorite too, now it's dead last. Dungeon was my 3rd, not anymore. Sad sad game

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:21:55

Kaanzakin I rly hope that developers know my wishes ...

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denisa016 Безумец
November 14, 2014 17:24:07

BALANCE IN THE SYLVAN LINE-UP DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING INTERESTING. (forgot caps lock on, to lazy to rewrite)
Root snake was horrible in my eyes, it was so simple, so boring. Im super happy it isnt in the game. I also liked the deer and the blade dancer. I didnt want phoenix, and im not attached to unicorns so i dont care if we no longer have them.
Fury just seemed better to me, and my friends as well. Im sure it will play great!

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:24:22

thank God there is untouched by these kids Academy that I'm loving until I played heroes V, Zehir was rly nice and funny hero :D

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Lukis122 
November 14, 2014 17:32:41

fury is the shi test thing in this game for now, there is no bigger sh it than this, we could have so nice and interesting and unique line up but no kids wanted old boring line up ... BORING AND OLD !

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Sempai_Mur Тень
November 14, 2014 16:40:53

Nice choice. But that was clear aftet the first round. So the second one was really useless.
Now why not to vote for important things like:

1. Random skill system;
2. 3d cities (we know that you have no money, but maybe ubi will change their mind when they'll see results);
3. Area control system;
4. Heroes mounts (horses, elephants, unicorns, bulls ... whatever)

We want to affect on the most important gameplay things, not just on the pictures.

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 16:42:20

+1 with random skill system; we have been talking about that for a long time and i hope they will consider this before it is too late.

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Namless-Wolfy 
November 14, 2014 17:10:04

We DON'T WANT those crappy 3D town screens. They were so damn ugly !
Stop worshiping Heroes 5, thank you !

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gasping Тень
November 15, 2014 01:24:20

YAY!!! They are going to post the Academy Line-Up!!!!! And YAY, Faces won!!! And YAY, Moonlight won!!!!! And YAY, this game will be great!!!!! Just waiting for official art of units.

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EnergyW Хитрец
November 15, 2014 01:38:50

Is there such a thing to say "YAY" too many times?

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gasping Тень
November 15, 2014 02:28:01

Never!

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Dubu90 
November 15, 2014 10:11:42

YAY :D

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 14, 2014 21:52:59

my Necropolis :

Core

+ Sceleton
+ Mummy
+ Ghost or Zombie

Elite

+ Vampire
+ Lich
+ Death Knight

Champions

+ Twilight Dragon
+ Аngel of Darkness (really want)

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mediczero Молот судьбы
November 14, 2014 21:58:09

Try replacing the lich with fate weaver, and I would love it!

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Kaanzakin Бродяга
November 14, 2014 22:06:15

Necropolis is going to be a defensive faction like in H6, right ?

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 14, 2014 22:10:06

in H6 you yourself can make a fraction that you want .... defense or attack

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Qanger Великолепный
November 14, 2014 22:55:56

Angel of Darkness? Like Belketh? Great idea! I want him so much now :)

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EnergyW Хитрец
November 14, 2014 23:17:37

This isn't Tomb Raider, ya know.

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Qanger Великолепный
November 14, 2014 23:21:25

The name might not be the best (I would prefer Fallen Angel), but I like the idea.

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MelancholiaNox 
November 14, 2014 23:35:34

Good idea - a return to a more gothic aesthetic. How about calling it Angel of Death instead? I'm drawing reference to Malthael in the Diablo III expansion by Blizzard.

Though the developers seem to stick to this "spider queen" mythology, I never understood why arachnids would be associated with death. As much as I liked the buffed Fate Weaver, having it as a ranged attacking champion would take away from the uniqueness of Titans as the only high-tier shooter.

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DarMior Бродяга
November 14, 2014 23:36:53

Let us then give demons "Fallen Angels" (as Sarah). And we will have four "angels" in the fractions.
Belketh was special, let will remain so.

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Qanger Великолепный
November 14, 2014 23:41:23

@DarMior, actually, I think you might be right :/

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 02:01:31

angel of death, angel of darkness, fallen angels and the angel of the abyss - were in H5 (mod NFC)...

Belketh - let it remain Belketh .... Angel of Death, or (Angel of Darkness) will look very good for the Necropolis .... really want it, let them be

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 02:44:48

Дуремар - не суй свой нос в Некромантику )).. благодаря таким как ты, одержимым своими фантазиями у Лесных Эльфов появились в армии - олени )
Belketh (падший ангел,очень старый и мудрый) - это основатель ордена Некромантов ,зачем ты его упоминул вообще ?????
я говорю чтоб добавить в армию Некромантов -ангелов тьмы/смерти (его слуг) и это будет разумно
Такие бойцы - просто обязаны быть у Некрополиса )

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krokoxodyl Тень
November 15, 2014 08:27:06

Very good.

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JotunLogi 
November 15, 2014 08:28:06

Angel of darkness is not the same idea is cool but there would be already too many creatures like that in the Universe:

- angels, celestials,

- Faceless

- devils, archdevils (for me they are fallen angels, as in religion)

Just do not want a situation that 1/2 of all champions would be the same type (as dragons in HoMM 5)

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DarMior Бродяга
November 15, 2014 10:55:56

Necromancer1981, я хотя бы не одержим глупостью. Спрашиваешь, зачем я упомянул Белкета, и тут же отвечаешь на этот вопрос.
Ангел Смерти - это скучнейшее создание, которое не соответствует ни лору, ни стилистике фракции, да вообще ничему не соответствует. При этом есть просто куча разных, действительно интересных существ на место чемпиона. Но нет, мы превратим все фракции в ангелов разной окраски. А потом добавим ещё и драконов разноцветных. Будет самая "интересная" игра в мире.

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shmelloff Рыцарь
November 15, 2014 12:09:48

- Да "Ангел смерти" такая же байда как безликие-эл.тьмы. Или типа умертви из 5 - какие -то совершенно не нужные из пальцавысосаные войска.

Есть Рыцарь смерти - он и есть фактически ангел смерти, можно ему и жнец дать вместо меча - тогда вообевсадник апокалипсиса считай))

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shmelloff Рыцарь
November 15, 2014 12:11:00

- Кстати состав некрполиса давно известен - там вместо зомби призраки ,и "ангелов" - бабы -пауки из 6. Остальное такое же.

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 13:35:47

Дуремар я и щас тебя спрашиваю...так зачем ты упоминул Бэлкета если я предлагал бойцов Ангелов смерти/добавить в армию некрам.... (внимательнее читай)
а то что там у тебя не по стилю и не по настроению смотриться -это мог бы не писать,оно мало тут кого интересует (тем более у тебя всё наоборот, белое -это черное)
Самое скучнейшее и занудное создание -это ты! ) ...нет ёпт мы превратим все фракции не в ангелов а в твоих оленей...и все будут довольны и счастливы )

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DarMior Бродяга
November 15, 2014 13:47:34

Necromancer1981, ты серьёзно не понял при чём тут Белкет? В моём комментарии всё прекрасно понятно, а ты потом ещё сам по этому поводу добавил. Если до сих пор не понял, то тут уже ничего не поделаешь.
И ты всё ещё переводишь стрелки? Я думал после 12-15 лет это проходит. И к чему этот переход на личности, когда речь о юнитах? Но раз так… Вообще по твоей манере выражения прекрасно видно, что ты обыкновенное быдло, так что иди в падик семки грызи да рэпчик слушай, "ангел смерти" ты наш.

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 13:48:38

ангел смерти - такая же байда как безликие
рыцарь смерти - это тоже самое что и ангел смерти
умертвия - не нужные из пальцавысосаные войска .... )))))))))))))))))))))))))))

...такую шнягу мог написать только -клоп Шмелёв ))
и про состав Некрополиса который ты считаешь определенным уже - ты опять хрень написал
на данный момент нету такого состава некрополиса - эти картинки в контакте и других подобных источниках -это только предположение...когда ты наконец повнимательнее станешь )

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 13:51:38

Дуремар вместо того чтоб писать не по теме километровый текст...напиши лучше ответ на мой вопрос )))

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Mirash_ge Дракон
November 15, 2014 14:08:59

Он просто заблудился в мире Асхана )))) а так то он добрый ) буду его в гер 7 охранять непутевого )))

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 14:29:09

возможно Мирк )
и я вообще то свой состав существ писал для фанатов Некрополиса а не для заблудившихся в Асхане )))

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Mirash_ge Дракон
November 15, 2014 14:39:42

)))

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shmelloff Рыцарь
November 15, 2014 17:31:27

- Это Инсайд ,а не предположение .люди инфу слили - там 90% что так и будет.

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 17:58:31

90% - это не 100% ...и пока ихняя слитая инфа её и останется

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Necromancer1981 Древний
November 15, 2014 18:07:16

до выхода состава Некрополиса ещё много воды утечёт
и они не раз ещё поменяют свои решения по поводу состава существ
на данный момент о вероятности такого состава можно сказать,что он вилами по воде писан....

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Belegor8 
November 14, 2014 17:09:06

Congratulations Malassa voters. I will miss lore of Ashan and great line-up, but c'est la vie. I won't be a jerk, dungeon is still my favorite nation, but strider....its a still disaster. Still better than shield, not much better, but still.

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TheoToJa 
November 14, 2014 17:14:09

Yes, dungeon is the best, no matter what!

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