Little Chronicle "Council of Shadows" and feedback.
1 "Give us the option of editing" on the site. The answer is - no
2 "Give us a second round of voting for the wood elves line." The answer is - no
3 "Give us the wheel skills in H 5". The answer is - no
4 "Let us necromancers," "remove the feet." Answer - Design Leach and vampires.
5 "Let us have the interesting ability of units." The answer is no.
6 "Give us an interesting specialty." The answer is - no
7 Pre-order , censorship.
8 The "Beta 1, 2", read above.
9 the game heroes ..... 7
10 "Give us work and multiplayer , companies' , response - patches with the heroes specialization .......
NO TO MMH6 BULLCRAP
What about copying whole H6 game and selling it for full price as H7 datadisc?
If you reuse some models, you should change their visuals at least a bit, as you did for H7 haven for example. Now they look EXACTLY the same as in H6. Shame... We don't want H6 for H7 prize.
It looks like the reuse of H6 models is starting to show even more (and also to bother a bit more).
h6 b-team selling h6 2.0 under the name of "h7, best of of the franchise".
" at the request of fans " , " Thanks for the feedback and report "
You count it wrong. After H6:SODa patch 2.1.1, and counting all the later patches, this should be indeed a complete H6 3.5.
This is good, but first you should fix all the gameplay related problems (multiplayer, optimization, AI, bugs).
PS: No manticore? We been asking for this unit since the Dungeon lineup reveal -.-
"...thank everyone for your valuable feedback and bug reports."
You are lying. Or so they would have added it. =p
you behave like two adults idiot, enough to write all this nonsense!
Is nonsense to ask them to fix the most priority issues first? That's common sense
And since they are recycling stuff from H6, why not the manticore? We ask for this unit since the first time we saw the awful strider, too bad they still don't seem to listen to us...
What are you talking about? I was making a joke to rodaff personally, not meant for you to butt in in any sense. You are the one making no sense here.
"We would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for your valuable feedback "
Yeah, this feedback is realy valuable.
We told you milion times that we hate copying things from H6. The result? We got 5 "completely new" neutrals.
You really are Mr Crankypants today. Chill. We're getting add ons and not paying more for it.
No @broui, you already payed a lot for a game that's not finished, don't work right and is almost like H6
My, look at those nice "new" creatures. I can't wait to see all the new bugs this patch brings ._.
Maybe add some more neutrals with UNIQUE designs, such as:
If I want to see creatures from H6, I play H6. No problem. But when I play H7 I wouldn't mind seeing more new things. Okay, re-using a thing or two isn't bad, and I understand that it's decided to do so in order to save time and resources elsewhere, but come on...this is going a bit far, don't you think?
If they include a mummy, they will also have to include a daddy. I'm sorry, lame joke.
Instead of mummy units, they could also add a mummy Hero. Then you can create your own scenarios: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, etc.
Marblethrone РЫЦАРЬ ---- а вам не кажется, что полурослик и крестьянин, что на дровнях торжествует, это уже лишнее, и нужно что-то свежее, что-то вроде ревнителя веры, и серафима (огненного ангела) на крайний случай просто разбойника я ядом или еще какой-нить фичей?
@ADAMIT. Mind if I reply in English? :P
A Halfling can have the ability to do extra damage against large creatures (effectively a Giant Slayer). Peasants, although weak, can generate gold per day (Taxpayer). They shouldn't be as weak as in H3, where they are only useful for Necropolis :P. I like the idea of the Seraphim, like H5's alternate Angel upgrade. Or give them the name Fallen Angel, and place them in the care of Inferno.
As for rogues...we now have the Assassin and Stalker, so a Rogue would probably be less unique in the lineups of H7. He might be able to provide extra information for your Thieves Guild, and have No Retaliation as a second ability.
Well, the farmer should be weaker skeleton 1 \ 1 \ 8 . a halfling weaker Gnoll . I remember H3 peasants 1 \ 1 \ 1 food for novice necromancer . halflings , and even with the abilities needed in the amount of more than 300 to carry a champion , provided that the aforesaid first before they will not come. Although see them in H7 would be funny . Classical however as
I find the timing pretty bad. Adding maps and heroes was ok, but adding reused stuff when people are already in the edge of stating they didn't want much more reused stuff, and plus, still having issues with gameplay and multiplayer and not a mention of these issues in the next patch? Tut-tut, that won't do. =/
I'd like to see some units from MM universe as well, from the old one, but ashanized, if needed be. Even simple ones such as Ooze (Emerald, Saphire or Bloodstone) or Giant Bats. Priest of the Sun/Moon (Light/Dark) as spell casters, and yes, Rocs, Thunderbirds, chimeras, and other non-reused stuff.
@roald.andersen - Are you my mummy? :P
@Marblethrone - "Lore problems" :V
Well, not really, you just need a bit of imagination:
Mummies are possible in Ashan, we saw them in H5. Peasants too. Halflings shouldn't be too hard to implement, Chimeras can be another wizard experiment, and a Thunderbird was featured in H6 :P.
There're mummies in Ashan right now, look at DoC.
As for Chimera, I hope for this to be a unique creature that gave its name to the entire school of Wizards. Maybe a Chaos Spirit or an Ultimate Beastman?..
Naa, you want them to invest money and actually make something new and a good game? That's absurd!
Limbic, don't listen to all the people complaining, we know that you had a short time to develop the game and the game is pleasant anyway
People expectations are too high nowadays...
Thank you for supporting the game like that
"People expectations are too high nowadays."
Pretty much the first thought that came to my mind.
You mean that what Ubi has done is acceptable? No, no freaking way is this behavior acceptable. So you want every game in the future to be treated like this? Then keep supporting this shit, then 1 day you might get it.
Sorry @galacticcafe, but what you said makes no sense. If they had short time, was their own doing. Many of us asked for the game to be delayed, a long time ago... Also if you pay for something, you have the rights to expect something good in return...
About they don't hearing us, well that's pretty clear. They don't hear us anyway... They just blame us for their mistakes. After all, they have a vision for this game...
Six months ago there was a pre-order, many people have invested in product advance money. They demand results.
Don't get me wrong RobvD84 im talking to Limbic not ubi, i saw how the development of the game was fast, and they still support the game with frequent patch while everyone is complaning and insulting, to my eyes it is unfair because i think Limbic did their best...
for ubi it's another story
Limbic may did their best but they are not qualified IMO
Patches - this is called maintenance warranty, it is their job to correct mistakes.
" thank you for not immediately thrown and did not close the site, so what? "
Nothing wrong with Limbic. (unreasonable) tight deadline is the problem. And advertising a working AAA title instead of "early access" with low budget.
Maybe Limbic did their best but, imo m&m deserves a better studio...(sry limbic)
"Nothing wrong with Limbic. (unreasonable) tight deadline is the problem"
Hmmm ... yes, but who accepted these unreasonable contract terms to start with? Someone there at Limbic is responsible for this outcome. I sure they were not naïve to simply have accepted whichever terms without analyzing these issues meticulously. They are also responsible for this situation, whether they were prepared or thought they were prepared or not.
Sorry but Limbic makes browser games, M&M is too much for them, of course Ubi is continuously failing no matter who is the developer, and for h7 they probably went with the cheapest bidder.
I don't care how ordinary consumers.
I bought game - I want to play, not read articles about patches.
8 Heroes of the company Ubisoft will do in Tanzania, Africa , budget - chalk, crayons and potatoes. ))
Potatoes? Potatotes?! Fire this guy!!! Bloody money-spender...
Omg when i see what Limbic has develop before its like the worst studio you can give this liscence to, (sry limbic again xD)
I think ubi chose them because they are cheap...what a shame
@Galacticcafe Great approach! Next time they will do it even worse and they will say you had too high expectation. If we want better game than previous one it is not too high, it is normal. H7 is at this moment the worst Heroes game.
Limbic thank you for your enormous work on Heroes VII.
Despite a difficult start, the game became very good today and I am almost 200 hours of game in hotseat.
The 1.5 patch makes me extremely enthousiate and I'm having trouble waiting for him.
Thank you again.
I second that, Mr. Rain :) I now have 72 hours gaming on the campaigns, and so far no major problems.
Thank you, Limbic - you are
1. Doing a great job fixing this game , and
2. Thanks for being there and answering our questions, always helping.
Now that's been awhile since the game got released I have to ask, when are we going to receive our prize for being in the top 30 SC contributors? Or we are not going to get anything?
At least if you give us some sort of reward I wouldn't feel like I lost more than a year of my life giving constant feedback which was ignored over and over again.
Haha, Rodaf ! We get the achievement "participate in the development of the H 7" , and unique avatar "Merry Namtar" ))
Some should get "Supreme Patience" achievement, to say the least.
and " beautiful suffering " )
Is the honorable mention in the credits not good enough? :P
Hm, maybe they can give us an achievement for it.
"Anguished Survivor", for those who survive until the last patch.
It would be, if the game had been good. Since it's not, and the vast majority of my/our feedback was ignored, then I think the people that devoted so many hours in this place deserve some sort of reward.
PS: Ubi-MoshiMoshi, I wasn't joking and I'll patiently wait for your answer
It's a pity seeing how many of you do not appreciate the effort put by the team in making the game better over time. With all the fiascos done in the game industry recently, i consider it a wonder and miracle that this game got a dedicated team that at least tries to make the game better and provides patches with hotfixes and now actualy with extra content...
I support this and so should we all
I have faith in the devs.
More maps and neutrals are more then wellcome. Looking forward to AI/balance improvements.
Uhm i am sorry but this is nothing, this should be normal for any game when it has been released 1 month ago. Also they supported H6 for while too and then they just abruptly ended it without saying a word and also with leaving things broken (atleast for me). So yeah i don't call this really good development. And not to mention that they are focussing on the wrong things at this point. Yes free content is always welcome, but not when half of the game is not working.
You do realize though that in heroes VI there were only 2 or 3 patches and those far between each other and the game support ended very soon. Also you do realise that this patch will also offer bug fixes and other fixes as well. The content is just a bonus.
Also, i don't know of any game that provides content with free patches after 1-2 months of release. Of course i am not an avid gamer so on this regard i might be mistaken.
Like Arcicun said. We dont know the part of the patch note yet that improves the game. Besides the additional content.
Some companies like the makers of the witcher 3/fallout 4/paradox provide its fan base with free content without asking more money. Yes you could buy expansions but there will be a lot of free content for all to share without spending more money.
I think they are doing what they were supposed to, trying to level up of what it should have been released to begin with. I would consider an additional effort anything other than that, when things start feeling like a 'plus' instead of a 'fix'. We should not compare and level things between publishers by their fiascoes, but by their successful examples, only then it'll be possible improving gaming experience.
I have found such games with free content. And they would have a lot of nerve to ask for money for this content, specially being reused. For an Expansion it is understandable even, expected yes. Not this. I cannot wonder how much of an uproar it would be if these people asked money for such content as this presented in this article. They know better – at least in this case.
It's a pity seeing how many people are SO grateful for selling them game which was in alpha state and praise them for what they are doing now. They are part of this fiasco of game industry you are writing about, now an exception. They are best example of what is wrong with developers and publishers.
Also, H6 got a lot of patches after all and work very well at this moment. The biggest difference between H6 and H7 is that H6 is totally new game. H7 is made of reused assets from previous game in 50%. It is more advanced, more complex, it is still looking better.
Of course, I am very glad of a new specialization. But I seriously do not understand why - now? Now, when a lot of problems in the game, but what can I say, 50 percent of the game is not working.
Why now, and not the first? Why is a lot of the characters are not in demand?
Попытка сказать почему сейчас , когда в игре проблем - выше крыши . И вообще старых геров куча тогда не нужных . Почему все по - китайски , когда про специализацию тут орали полгода . И вообще , эт только начинают игру чтоль делать ????
PS I am not against copying. Copy the characters of the heroes 5.
If small patches brought serious new challenges, I am afraid to think about the next big patch. What awaits us?
Haha,who is suporter of copying?
Dont forget Limbiv Enternaiment is the master of the copying!
IN might and magic x legacy,they had coppied creatures and heroes from:heroes v,heroes,heroes iii,heroes online!Maybe and of clash of heroes...
Let's hope, that they will work on the skill system in the next patch! Here is a lot of work to do... and of course town-screens!!! H5 is a nice example!!
You think they will rework the skill system? Hahaha... After they end patching they will ship Axeoth and probably that's it, maybe at best one last DLC with extra faction to milk the very last they can but it will end there.
Before we see serious corrections and additions, we can see the article "pre-order". )
Probably you're right... But dreaming is allowed! I recommend a revision of the skill-system and the design of the town-screens. That's my point as a member of this council.
As it was from many members for far too long, and yet, none truly heeded. It's plainly clear that these are things they weren't meant to meddle with since the beginning, or they would have shared things in time for tweaks.
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA)))) Do you really call this ENTIRELY copy-pasted from mmh6 neutrals "the NEW content"??? Shame on you, developers. Another copy-past. What a shame. You better redraw townscreens in HD and redraw trees on global map - they are just terrible. And make better animation for moveing hero&creatures - their animation gives a feeling that all units&hero made of papier mache instead of flesh\steel\whatever...
And where is the option that removes grid from battlefield? You promised that there will be such option...
...And please - make all flags really smaller and place them BENEATH all the buildings, like in heroes 3. All those big flags are just annoying!
What would you call it? Even if the creatures were there in H6 already we'll be new in H7... any free, new (copy and pasted or not) content is good content!
"Do you really call this ENTIRELY copy-pasted from mmh6 neutrals "the NEW content"???"
No, I don't believe they did. It says: UPCOMING CONTENT. Learn to read.
It is nice that you are continuing updates, but FOR GOD SAKE could you stop copy pasting everything from Heroes 6. The whole idea of making a new Heroes game is to give the fans actual "New" content. If you think logically; why would anyone buy H7 if it is just the same as H6. We already own Heroes 6 and don't need 2 copies of it. >:
Another creatures copied from Herooes VI, a few new heroes and two(2) new maps - great job UBI!
This patch will be just AMAZING...
But it's for free. Absolutely new creature models or new hero classes will need your money.
But this is not what ppl are waiting for at the moment. They want the game to be fixed. Altho it might prove to be not possible for them to do it.
Yes it is free content, but if you don't fix the main problems first this stuff won't matter and you wond be able to take away the anger ppl have. And they are not even talking about these problems, like multiplayer, like verifying your files that need to be automatic.
@RobvD84, different people want different things. I mean not only those, who comment in this blog. Some players are not awared by game bugs, even do not notice them. Some do not remember creatures from H6, so for them it's absolutely new content. Do not think, that the comments in this blog or any forum are the center of the world.
And that is why we need more interaction with Ubi and the devs, because if they stay silent and don't discuss things with us, how the hell will they ever create something good? A lot of ppl are still willing to help them, but they really need to change thier attitude and the way they do things, otherwise this truly will become just another H6 (in the way the support of H6 just ended because it was too much of hassle to deal with).
For free @shukfir? Really? Tell me where is it free when you already paid for a game that dosen't work right, and is not totally finished? Patchs are the least they could do. Pretend to offer "free" "new" stuff is just a deception for the fact that they rushed things and didn't finished in time, now trying to add what was missing, even if are recycled units...
And don't get started on the money issue. That seems to be an excuse for everthing. If you don't have money or can't do something right, well, just don't do it!
Wow new neutral units....oh wait they are just copied from that sh*t H6. At least that Naadir looks interesting, like true master of the undead, not just like some stupid spider fanatic. As for Lucretia, I hope she will kill as many spider fanatics as possible, FOR THE TRUE NECROPOLIS!
Better than no creatures at all.