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Stormhelico Tajemniczy
March 05, 2015 19:56:36

On the other hand, in Chrome I can't post any comment. I click on the button but, simply, it doesn't work. Right now, I am using Opera and it works. Does it happen to someone else?

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IronJazZ Mroczny
March 05, 2015 20:00:05

I have the same issue with Firefox sometimes
.

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IronJazZ Mroczny
March 05, 2015 20:01:22

lel..

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tal-elmar 
March 05, 2015 20:25:11

use chrome, it's ok

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Ubi-MoshiMoshi Potężny
March 05, 2015 21:58:15

Hi Guys, I have reported this issue. I am using Chrome with no issues. Which regions are you from and are you trying to reply to a comment or post a new one?

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viragosg Furia
March 05, 2015 22:06:21

I 'm from Hungary and I also can't use chrome.

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Ubi-MoshiMoshi Potężny
March 06, 2015 14:37:12

This issue should be resolved for you now. If it isn't please let us know.

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Marblethrone Rycerski
March 06, 2015 17:08:48

I experienced similar problems (as did a whole lot of other people, I mean...it never is this quiet in the comment section). Now it seems to be fixed, though.
Thanks Ubi, or whoever is in charge of these things :D.

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EnergyW Twardziel
March 06, 2015 19:13:06

Hm, tried Internet Explorer and Google Chrome before, and neither worked. Good news it got fixed.

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KhanOfSlaughter Zdobywca
March 06, 2015 22:18:00

I would have loved to let you know it wasn't working but obviously could not

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Kobaltmaster Strażnik
March 07, 2015 10:44:34

Good day Councilors! Personally I like the environment overall. As they said, creature scales still need work but generally I like what see. I don't think we'll be able to move the camera like that in the game and that's a shame cuz' there are lots of cool effects and shapes.

PS: just finished these bad boys last night. I really hope you guys like them
Gorgon - http://kobaltmaster.deviantart.com/art/Gorgon-518408693
Mighty Gorgon - http://kobaltmaster.deviantart.com/art/Mighty-Gorgon-518434114

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Rolandsu Niszczyciel
March 07, 2015 11:20:33

Good work.Amazing

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Ekohippi 
March 07, 2015 11:24:51

You do some amazing art-works I have to admit! Unfortunately i never liked the Bull as idea for unit in h3, but your work is very Well done regardless :)

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IronJazZ Mroczny
March 07, 2015 13:56:07

Fantastic Artworks, also the Gnollz r amazing. Keep it up!

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Matooob 
March 07, 2015 13:59:35

Waiting for basilisk. I love details on gnolls and lizardmen, gorgons and flies are also very nice but look way simplier.

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rodaff Mroczny
March 07, 2015 17:34:47

Great stuff, long live the mighty gorgon!

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 07, 2015 23:24:40

I want to play the game with your art Kobalt.

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Kobaltmaster Strażnik
March 10, 2015 23:38:31

Thanks guys, I'm really glad you liked them! More to come in the near future

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Pawek1308 Pradawny
March 09, 2015 23:06:46

Give Ghosts Incorporeal Ability!
#GGIA

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wasd1200 Obieżyświat
March 09, 2015 23:43:53

C'mon,they would be funcioning like ghosts then...where is logic in that?

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BeYo_OnD Pradawny
March 10, 2015 00:21:32

I agree with this. I'll suggest that they change the Ghost's Vigilance ability to Incorporeal.

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rodaff Mroczny
March 10, 2015 00:39:31

+1

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 10, 2015 10:16:28

#GGIA

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logical.dust 
March 10, 2015 13:03:54

I dont get why they removed it, along with other like lich deatch cloud, vampire no retaliation. So they removed this unique abilities in the favor of repeating other ones. Is there really no other way how to balance things as making them all identical? They completely changed necro core philosophy ... I guess it would be too "retro" and people demand 'new' boring stuff. And I havent seen what they done to elves so far ...please ubi, just fire your lore guy-he is doing exeptionally terrible job.

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Stormhelico Tajemniczy
March 10, 2015 13:21:27

I would prefer no retialiation for vampires and death cloud for liches. Both abilities were always except in H6.
Sad that they prefer copy H6 instead of H5 or others.

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Thranduilll Tajemniczy
March 05, 2015 22:50:47

Very very nice model of the female hero, the quality is quite good.

On the other hand we have LEGO CITY and lava which resemble graphic quality from 2005.

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Thranduilll Tajemniczy
March 05, 2015 22:52:35

and I'd add that grass texture looks too flat

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Matooob 
March 06, 2015 12:55:40

I like how units number gets improved, much better.
Female Heroin is amazing
Units have still silly scales but the way how they are made and battlefield are awesome.
Sand terrain, rocks - huh, thats what i expect in 2015, very nice, grass and lava still need some progress
Inthe end the town is great dissapointment, so its not just cartoon illogical TS, now we have also lego castles...
Objects, water, icons, minimap - very nice.

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rodaff Mroczny
March 06, 2015 18:24:56

IS, the castles so far have been a major disappointment

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Sussugamon Doradca
March 06, 2015 18:28:17

Agree. Castles (and TS) need a major improvement. But they know that already, I gather.

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EnergyW Twardziel
March 06, 2015 19:13:40

Eesh, don't speak about heroin here!

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 16:37:22

@Sussu: Them knowing =/= them going to do something about it.

+6k rage comments of fan base driving itself insane could save us from two recycled units ... lol

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logical.dust 
March 05, 2015 23:27:27

Old resources were far superior to new ones, this is thing that was constant in all previous games and nobody was complaining about it. It was part of heroes universe. I see no logic in changing good stuff to worse - new ones are hard to distinguish - too much alike. Standard camera position would be also much more appreciated as that is the way how game will be seen, overall it seems there is too few adventure objects to interact with. I am still hoping for miracle here.

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DarknessAvatarX Mroczny
March 05, 2015 23:44:56

I'd merge Crystals and Gems into one Crystal resource, like they did in Heroes VI, but I'd keep Sulfur and Mercury as they were.

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logical.dust 
March 05, 2015 23:56:04

But what for? On the contrary I would even add more resources, the ones that would be only possible to get from quests or special places during special ocasions - very rare ones. Overall whole economy aspect is on the level of H1 right now. No improvement whatsoever. Changing names and look of resources is worst posible way of bringing "something new". Its confusing and creates detouchment from original universe = lost fans.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 06, 2015 00:47:10

Mithril FTW

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 06, 2015 01:18:26

But you bring up a very interesting point mentioning the lost fan base Logical Dust.
I'm being more and more convinced is this change of trend from Sword and Sorcery to LoTR feel.
In the middle of an off-topic discussion about sci-fi elements in the discussion thread, this dude Zombi Wizard came up with pretty strong and interesting and relevant points, answering to me as well:

🎋 http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=40444&PID=1282785#focus 🎋

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rodaff Mroczny
March 06, 2015 18:20:01

I agree with logical.dust, these new resources look all the same to me, why changing the classic ones? What's the point? Why does everything has to be connected to the dragons gods?

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EmeraldPhoenix 
March 06, 2015 22:05:19

I agree, the new resources are very similiar to each other, have similiar names and are all metal like... I wish they would leave them as they were or just add a more common resource that would be easier to remember...

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shantiri_knight Strażnik
March 31, 2015 23:20:25

Can someone please explain the Resource Bar, It goes - Wood, Ore, Gems..... (then I get lost :D ) I have always liked the classic H5 economy complexity (not very complex, but needs strategy). I agree there isnt enough to interact with, not enough strategy in town building, its has been simplified unnecessary.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:27:00

#GROS
#VN
#GUBTS

DOES IN NO WAY CONFLICT WITH UPLAY TERMS.

Thank you.

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ramborusina 
March 09, 2015 13:28:18

But it conflicts with Erwans vision of Spiderpolis which is the greatest crime of them all! ;)

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:29:20

Spidervision®

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:30:00

If my opinion is that Erwan's vision is bad, I have a right to express myself without being censored, thank you.

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Elle-One Magiczny
March 09, 2015 13:30:25

It does if you spam it everywhere. I'm guessing that is the reason comments were deleted. Also, this site doesn't even support hashtags. Why are there hashtags?

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:32:07

All hashtags were putten into appropriate context and inside discussions and therefore cannot be considered spam.

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Elle-One Magiczny
March 09, 2015 13:34:23

http://de.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SPAM

Some definitions work, some don't. ;-)

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:34:42

Elle-One, so gender trolling is not spam anymore? And since whet it's become more important than the game related opinions? And we don't spam with it, we just put it after our comments. (exclusion was the troll's thread where I posted them naked).
Why hashtags? - Why not? It's the convenient way to be recognized. We succeed with #GURS and partially we did with #GROS.

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Mirash_ge Smok
March 09, 2015 13:35:03

Amen
#GROS
#VN
#GUBTS
Korbáčik !

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:35:32

Complaints for a moderator were regarding pedophile and nazi posts, not passionate fans one, this is unacceptable from Ubi-MoshiMoshi and should be reported to higher authority.

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:36:27

*whet = when. This forum doesn't support edit aswell lel

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Ubi-MoshiMoshi Potężny
March 09, 2015 13:40:21

Hi GalaadleHaut, can we please keep to the article's subject?

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:41:50

Ubi-MoshiMoshi, hm, so feminism stuff is now related to the subject? lel ok

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Matooob 
March 09, 2015 13:42:08

"I really hope the campaign won't be sexist and offensive to women this time. Heroes of Might and Magic 5 was offensive to women. In the original game, there was only one woman and she was displayed as stupid. In HoF, there were 2 women. Finally, there are more women than men (<3) but they were boring"

THIS dont need to keep article subject?!

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LichRotkiv Doradca
March 09, 2015 13:42:29

@Ubi-MushiMoshi

And what is this article's subject? Please enlighten me.

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ramborusina 
March 09, 2015 13:44:24

Wow, really? You give Galaad hard time for "off-topic"? In general there are like 70-80% of comments off-topic given the article they are written under... There isn't really that much to discuss here at any rate...

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:44:32

I think any post which is game-related is OK. Better if specifically on subject, but not worthy of deletion if not. Is just fans opinions. Thank you.

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Mirash_ge Smok
March 09, 2015 13:52:36

Everyone was waiting for censorship ....Welcome back ))
(⌐■_■)--︻╦╤─ - - -

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Najakir Kreeganin
March 09, 2015 13:53:45

Good ! Finally some moderation !

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Najakir Kreeganin
March 09, 2015 13:54:11

Oups, sorry wrong post. XD

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Ubi-MoshiMoshi Potężny
March 09, 2015 13:57:13

@GalaadleHaut, comments about the game are fine, spamming the same thing over and over is not.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:58:39

Is like a signature post.

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Matooob 
March 09, 2015 14:02:19

If he/we havent done that, this awful recycled models would stay same, skill system wrong. TS we will see.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 14:03:36

Yes, Ubisoft is spamming H6 all over H7 in the first place.

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 14:05:53

>spamming the same thing over and over is not.

A little bit complicated to understand your logic thus far. Why does spamming the same thing from the same guys over and over again about the same article (misoginysm, feminism etc.) is not moderated? Because they create large posts and we "spam" with short hashtags? At least we are aiming some goal unlike those gender trolls.

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rodaff Mroczny
March 09, 2015 14:46:45

I think we have the right to express our opinion and as long as we do it with some level of politeness and education, then you should respect us and don't censor us.
We truly believe that the creative direction given to Necropolis is a huge mistake and the quality of the townscreens are awful. We are not doing this because we are bad evil trolls, we do it because we care about this game as much as you (or even more).
#GROS
#VN
#GUBTS

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IronJazZ Mroczny
March 09, 2015 17:41:08

#GUBTS
#GU3DTS

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Niwroc Pradawny
March 10, 2015 00:57:03

I utterly fail to comprehend how GlaadleHaut is spamming.

I certainly do not understand why he is being warned but Jeremiah is still permitted to jump into any post with Gives us Male Druids which is even less related, has no support except from accounts we're pretty sure are fake, and are widely despised.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 12:22:08

THIS PLACE IS SUCH A FIASCO.

And the game looks like Everquest.

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mediczero Młot Losu
March 08, 2015 12:27:54

Why so depressed all the sudden?

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Marblethrone Rycerski
March 08, 2015 12:32:28

They may have underestimated the concept of a SC a bit.

Now look at what happens here. This has become a madhouse, they should assign more than one mod 24/7 to this website if we are to have a normal environment here.

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Minastir Strażnik
March 08, 2015 12:44:19

That's why I'm very rerly here and I used to be here quite often

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Minastir Strażnik
March 08, 2015 12:45:15

rarely* and no edit ;/

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Matooob 
March 08, 2015 13:13:49

Still depressed because of Emoji?

Minastir, hi brother :D

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RobvD84 Szalony
March 08, 2015 13:26:10

And what is wrong with Everquest?

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 13:37:11

@Rob: Is not Heroes.

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Minastir Strażnik
March 08, 2015 13:52:14

Hi Matooob !! :)

I'm still working on my HVIII line-ups in HC, now I'm thinking about expanding them to 4/4/3 system, adding one more creature to choose for every tier, I have wrote suggestions in my last post

-- http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=41092&pagenumber=2

What do you think ? ;)

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RobvD84 Szalony
March 08, 2015 13:52:28

Yeah oke. I think anyone could come to that conclusion. But this does not look like Everquest. More liek H6 2.0 :P.

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Matooob 
March 08, 2015 14:14:56

Briliant idea, Articun made good job while implementing this system in even extensive way 5/5/3, im sure you can do it too. 4/4/3 in general means that when you are taking decisions BladeDancer/EmeraldWarrior, Abbot/Glory, Mummy/Ghoul etc... you can implement both. On the other side doing well balanced 5/5/3 with more cities can be insanly hard.
I am very curious how will you extend your line ups, till this day you made GJ so i have no worries about this new concept.

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RobvD84 Szalony
March 08, 2015 14:18:09

I am always in favor of more choices and more replayability.

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Minastir Strażnik
March 08, 2015 14:23:06

yeah 5/5/3 would be too hard i think for some factions it's easy to create some new units but for others it's really hard, that;s why i chose 4/4/3, idk if you saw but those are my propositions to extand factions
Necropolis:
C:Ghoul or zombie
E:Lamasu
Ch:Fate Weaver

Inferno:
C: Demented
E:Tormentor or Nightmare
Ch:Abyssal Worm

Haven:
C:Shield Warden
E:Beast Hunter
Ch:Griffin Knight

Dungeon:
C:Skirmisher
E:Shadow Matriarch
Ch:Faceless

Sylvan:
C:satyr
E:stag rider
Ch:Forest guardian

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Matooob 
March 08, 2015 14:25:32

Yes, more replayability. 5/5/3 + alt. upgr. and little design diversions. For example it would be nice to have like 3 differt design variants for some units. Like furs when you start at snow terrain, maybe bit different weapons, symbols and colors of uniform (depending on players colour).

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Matooob 
March 08, 2015 14:28:11

But to be not too difficult 4/4/3 or even 4/4/2 with alternatives would be enough for me.

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Matooob 
March 08, 2015 14:35:32

With 5/5/3 system when you choose 2 units from every tier to not participate in your line up Dungeon faction can be made for both Warlock / DarkElf fans. Where in core and in elite you would have 3 classic creatures and 2 elves to choose from. For champs Hydra/Dragon/Faceless can satisfy everyone i think. The problem would be only with campaign if there will be only one whith Dungeons. If there would be great nuber of campaign lines, both camp can be satisfied.

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RobvD84 Szalony
March 08, 2015 14:35:40

I actually liked that you could choose in H4. The only problem i had with this was that it was unbalanced and that you could not change it (by destroying a building and replace it with another building). You were always stuck with it, so if you did not like the choices your enemies made you have to adjust to that.

I really hope we can implement this ourselfs with the extreme modding tools, cause i do not see Limbic doing this.

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Chiasa Szalony
March 08, 2015 15:07:51

@Matooob & Minastir
I love the idea of larger creature pool to choose from too :) It gives so many variations of a faction's line-up, resulting in infinite possible strategies and great replayability. Would be perfect if H7 was mod-friendly enough to let fans implement it :3

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darioio 
March 09, 2015 21:47:44

You know what's the worst about copying everything from H6? That they are not embarrassed about it, at all. I would even say, they are proud they can take as much as they can from the most criticized Heroes.

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darioio 
March 09, 2015 21:53:15

Normaly what one would do is to read very very carefully what went wrong with last game, and not what they thought went wrong, but fans that spend days, weeks and months playing Heroes, and turn everything upsidedown. Instead they are doing this.....
But somehow dev have very odd way of thinking, and I wonder whether we are going to understand it, ever?

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ramborusina 
March 09, 2015 21:53:47

Well they did have some h6 stuff even decorating the office... They probably fell in love with the idea of being able to copy shit from h6, some even directly! I really hope Galaad will bring some very good news regarding the game from the press-event ;P

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EmeraldPhoenix 
March 09, 2015 21:59:33

I agree with you. One of the worst things is that they didn`t put enough effort in the townscreens, even though they saw the reaction of the fans when H6 didn`t have them. I tought they would put more care into designing them after that.

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ramborusina 
March 09, 2015 22:01:06

@dario But they did change "lich" since we hated them in h6... Well, after the complete outrage after they showed h6 copypaste "lich" first... And we still don't know what to expect from the model...

"A couple months in the laboratory can save a couple hours in the library." Seems very fitting quote for how devs do things a lot of things regarding the game-development :S

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darioio 
March 09, 2015 22:11:56

Hehe, good one Rambo :)
Yes, Lich indeed is perfect example. Evolution of Lich from H6 to H6 expansion, ooohh I'm sorry H7 is fascinating
Do you think they have all over their walls pictures with H6 screenshot? It would really explain a lot

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B_WE 
March 09, 2015 22:35:16

Heroes VI really wasn't so bad: The creatures were lovingly designed, the scenery was wonderful... Why not reuse a proven well designed creature? I have nothing against it! The money could be better spent: Possibly in town-screens, possibly in a huge number of neutral creatures, possibly in a new fraction... I have many ideas!!
(By the way... there are nicer creatures than the Lich in Heroes VI; we agree that it needs to be changed)

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 22:37:24

A bugless product would have been a start.

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Niwroc Pradawny
March 10, 2015 00:36:14

The problem is when they shamelessly copy/paste everything including the, pardon me, crappy designs like the lich. It would be one thing if they changed the things they new for a fact were despised or at least admitted that they are having budget/time issues. While they claim they aren't underfunded, I honestly do not believe it because there is so much that shows that they do not have the resources they need at all.

Copying some, don't like it but fine. Copying all is just laziness.

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Najakir Kreeganin
March 10, 2015 09:31:29

They said on heroescommunity that they had good return about H6 necropolis. H6 is the most recent game, so they probably have more feedback about it. Maybe many players said that in this bad game, necropolis is the better. XD

B_WE : Yes, it was a beautyfull game... and sadly, all discussion here show that players principaly care about graphisms... :-(

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:52:59

Looks like Heroes VI 2.0

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:13:48

Haha @Moshi, why did you leave alive comment related to those gender-trolling and clean my #VN and #GROS famous hashtags? :D I hope we are not going into Orwell's "1984" ;))

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Mirash_ge Smok
March 09, 2015 13:20:35

))) по-русски Мочи всех ))))))))))

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Mirash_ge Smok
March 09, 2015 13:21:51

Korbáčik !
#GROS
#VN
#GUBTS

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:22:28

Ну если всех, то всех. А так троллей оставляют, а оставленные под их комментариями замечания стирают. У меня возникает мысль, а не сами ли модераторы-тролли?)

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Mirash_ge Smok
March 09, 2015 13:26:34

а точно все стерли, меня и галада ) надо же ....такие невинные тексты стерли...
УЧИТЕ русский ) сегодня на форум зашла-пустой почти )))) развлеклись ,однако по-английски )

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:27:03

#GROS
#GUBT
#VN
Korbáčik cxxxxxx<

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dr4gm0re Szalony
March 09, 2015 13:33:56

А что за Korbasik? Что это такое?

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:37:52

dr4gm0re, сыр такой. Через "ч" только произносится)

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Mirash_ge Smok
March 09, 2015 13:38:24

эт красивое и вкусное слово )

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Ubi-MoshiMoshi Potężny
March 09, 2015 13:42:42

Hi Sempai_Mur, I am working through the comments and removing spam or anything not related to the articles. Please stay on topic as this helps us collect feedback.

Thanks

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
March 09, 2015 13:47:46

Hi, Moshi-Moshi. Try to pay some extra attention to gender-annoying-trolling topics then.
Thank you.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 13:48:22

This is not moderation. This is censorship.

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Mirash_ge Smok
March 09, 2015 13:48:47

Хотели цензуру -получите О_0
Everyone was waiting for censorship ....Welcome back ))

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IronJazZ Mroczny
March 08, 2015 11:38:36

Is there a MODERATOR in the House? : /

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Marblethrone Rycerski
March 08, 2015 11:56:52

Probably not on Sundays...we'll have to wait until tomorrow, I fear.

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Elle-One Magiczny
March 08, 2015 12:07:35

So... stay away from the site until the mods are caught up if you value your sanity. Got it.

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JeremiahEmo Niszczyciel
March 08, 2015 12:16:38

I think mods were online today. I was looking for a post I saw last night to comment. The poster is another fan of mine. Apparently, I can't find the post anymore. I assume it got deleted.

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Marblethrone Rycerski
March 08, 2015 12:21:36

Then let them wake up and sweep this place again. Get the broom, get the pesticides. There is work to do.

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Marblethrone Rycerski
March 08, 2015 14:44:50

We now have conclusive proof of mod presence on Sunday. Just look around...something is missing. And not a tear will be spilled on that :).

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ivaha7 Magiczny
March 05, 2015 22:46:48

Fiasco.
Pale. Boring. Unnaturally.
Either bring back HMM3's chess conventionality either improve the graphic to 2015 from 8**.

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DarknessAvatarX Mroczny
March 05, 2015 22:52:52

Anything more constructive? What should be corrected about these graphics?

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logical.dust 
March 05, 2015 23:49:21

There have been plenty of constructive feedback during this Sheldon Cooper council of heroes since it started. Right now there are just regretfull statements. Pointless really giving some suggestions now as chance for them to be implmented is close to zero. Ubisoft did it once again their way, completely ignoring fanbase. We got clever illusion of being part of development.

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Thranduilll Tajemniczy
March 06, 2015 00:04:20

logical.dust

Well said. One of the best comments.

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feidet1 
March 06, 2015 10:31:42

I quite like graphics

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Marblethrone Rycerski
March 06, 2015 17:57:16

@logical.dust:

"We got clever illusion of being part of development".

That kind of denies the achievements considering GURS and Lich/Vampire reworkings. You make it seem like 'we' weren't able to change anything. 'We' did. Maybe it's not much, but your statement is not entirely true.
I must admit that these things were achieved through spamming rather than constructive discussions...but it's something.

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logical.dust 
March 10, 2015 12:23:25

@ Marblethrone : Its marginally nothing. There is no info on how GURS will really work, it might be completely unusable. Rework of 2 units will not save necro from spiders. Its sort of hard to ignore all that flame that was around here regarding this topic, yet ubisoft almost managed it. But sure "completely ignoring" might not be mathematically precise, however "illusion of being part" is quite spot on.

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JedynyHex Potężny
March 09, 2015 15:53:08

What do you guys think about multiple units having the same ability?
I think it's bad unless these are such abilities like "no counter attack"or "cannot be flanked".
What wee have now is too much sweep ability, piercing shot even though these abilities might work a bit different form each other.
The more different, cool and the most important usefull abilities the better, coz it makes each faction playing different.
PS: So much word "different". xD

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 15:57:47

Replicates abilities are obviously lazy and uninspired.

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 09, 2015 16:00:51

There are many units, not all of them can be unique. I can live with a few repetitive abilities as long as they are not overused, like for 4 or 5 units.
But yeah, I basically agree.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 16:07:41

@ptrsc: Some of us have higher standards.

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Sussugamon Doradca
March 09, 2015 16:12:04

I think it's ok as long as they are quite discernible in their other roles (flying, ranged, very different basic stats). Which I cannot vouch for almost the entire Necropolis line up, where we have 5 non upgraded units that are basically too similiar, even considering that one or another may fly. That's a 'problem' with upgrading, imho. They fear making a unit full of abilities then they just make them full of nothing, a bland figure. I would rather have no upgrades at all.

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Chiasa Szalony
March 09, 2015 16:12:56

2 units having same abilities is something I can live with but I'm not too fond of, more is just lame, unimaginative and lazy :/
Unique skills for creatures should be something that makes factions different from one another, there are so many possibilities for special abilities so having any 2 creatures with the same Sweep for example is such a waste of potential. I'd rather have unbalanced factions, than the same.

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 09, 2015 16:16:38

@Galaad
Then I hope your high expectations will be met, but I won't cry if not:)

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JedynyHex Potężny
March 09, 2015 16:17:11

I'm afraid Stronghold may also have sweep or other abilities that are already present.
I hope not.

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Chiasa Szalony
March 09, 2015 16:17:51

Besides, it's just stupid for Marksman to have Piercing Shot, how is that bolt supposed to pierce through one heavily armoured creature and hit the one that stands behind it? Not to mention that it could be a Gargoyle or Golem made of stone lol
Somethig that cripples the target would be better

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JedynyHex Potężny
March 09, 2015 16:21:53

Chiasa,
Searching for realism in fantasy game is priceless. xD

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 09, 2015 16:29:09

@JedynyHex
I expect the Sylvan blade dancer to have this, so maybe we won't get it in Stronghold...
And while realism is one thing, logic and believability is another...

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Chiasa Szalony
March 09, 2015 16:29:38

Uh, yeah, maybe I take it too seriously, sorry :D But to me it's just too strange to not care.
A wizard with magic missiles that can pierce through 10 creatures I can understand, but not a marksman :)

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JedynyHex Potężny
March 09, 2015 16:32:54

Damn Sweep is the most overused ability - the list of units with Sweep:
Sword Master
Hydra
Blade Dancer
Rakshasa
Some Stronghold unit will most likely have it too
No More Sweep
#NMS

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JedynyHex Potężny
March 09, 2015 16:35:40

And Give Us More Diversed Abilities
#GUMDA

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 09, 2015 16:35:54

@Chiasa
His (cross)bowstring is probably made from supermagically enhanced unicorn hair and can withstand great pressures needed to pull it strong enough to get such piercing power;DD
Or the bolt tip got sharpened with a magic laser;DD

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Thranduilll Tajemniczy
March 09, 2015 16:39:03

Here we are.
It was said that visuals aren't that important as gameplay.

No 3D TS not even decent 2D. Units and buildings copies from H6.
And now we have the gameplay part. What we have? - A lack of unique abilities. Initiative system from H6 (the easier one and cheaper one to make - or rather to copy).
I remember a lot of people protecting developers, mocking sceptical ones and saying that only gameplay matters.

I "can't wait" for more brilliant mechanics :>

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Chiasa Szalony
March 09, 2015 16:42:55

And the crossbowman himself has dragon blood in his veins. That's also why he wear fancy heavy armour that serves no purpose lol
Everything makes sense now

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 16:43:18

#GUMDA

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JedynyHex Potężny
March 09, 2015 16:46:35

IIRC it won't be initiative system directly taken from H6, it will be changed - it's said in some article. We need more info on this matter - gameplay video would show it the best.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 09, 2015 16:50:28

As far as I recall, it won't be the H5 system, even though the poll at HC was in favor of it.

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Chiasa Szalony
March 09, 2015 17:05:59

I don't really understand why not reuse H5 initiative system. They say it's too complicated - ok I believe that and understand that with limited time & resources recreating it would be very hard. But they have the code, don't they? Nival made H5 for Ubi so it's obvious have the source code. It would need to be rewritten to work with new game, but it can't be that damn hard.

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Sussugamon Doradca
March 09, 2015 17:17:31

I think H4 initiative/turn system was a nice thing they could try implementing. Initiative being mainly controlled by morale - and thus being affected by results in battle as well.

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Sussugamon Doradca
March 09, 2015 17:26:45

@blueraven9
It looks like the game is lacking everything in every department, whether one judge that department important or not. Although I don't mind much about fancy graphics and I find it's a waste, I don't like the idea of having copies of or other graphics or being simply too akin the last installment, similar to an expansion, nor I like lazy done TSs. I do like mechanics - however, nothing really substantial has been revealed and nothing that was revealed was whooping either.

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guest-Q2C5DSj5 Furia
March 09, 2015 18:00:59

@JendynyHex
You touch a very sensitive topic which requires lots of creative and balancing acts. Heroes 6 lacks both, hence it has nothing worth mentioned. It is Okay for many creatures sharing the same ability as long it makes senses and limits to 2-3 creatures for entire game. Based solely on H3 and H5, each creature should have about 2-3 abilities. Only tier 6 & 7 creatures may have more than 3. One of those abilities may be faction ability. The rest should be unqiue to each creature.

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guest-Q2C5DSj5 Furia
March 09, 2015 18:15:19

Continued..
It is even better to have vanilla creatures with no special ability than seeing too much "creativity". The simpleness ang greatness of H3 is beyond comparison with the scrap of H6. As far as the progress of H7 has been going, it has not met my standard like others have stated regarding the availability and uniqueness in creatures' abilities. We need more diversity.
#GUMDA

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ramborusina 
March 09, 2015 20:09:22

If they had a lot of abilities it wouldn't hurt as much, but when you have like 1-2 abilities and the same abilities are found with other units as well it makes them really stand out. Even more so as the defining ability is defining for other units too(I mean how are crossbowman and stalker any different, their only ability is the same -.-). So far we have:
3x Vigilance
3x Piercing shot
4x Sweep
8x Undead(since they decided this is an ability)
2x life-drain
3x no-retaliation
2x entangling

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RobvD84 Szalony
March 09, 2015 20:41:35

I do think that H3/H4 initiative system is the best. I loved it that tactics in H4 could made your units act earlier and even move a bit further.

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Matooob 
March 08, 2015 22:08:32

I am worried about Sylvan TownScreen and Town itself. The artworks they bring us are amazing, i was totaly out of the pictures, but real models seems to be, sorry devs, totally terrible and are going to be even worse. This paper city on map... If Necro is planned to be on same design level i would laugh my ass off and Cry in same moment. You know, Lego Spider.

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Chiasa Szalony
March 08, 2015 22:15:12

Eww.. that's just the most awful thing I've read today, and was here earlier before mods arrived :D
And the most scary thing about it is that it's quite likely. A gigantic lego spider with funny little lego buildings on it's legs :f

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rodaff Mroczny
March 08, 2015 22:19:24

You are not the only one that is concerned, if the town screen already looks ridiculous then I'm afraid to see the town in the adventure map...

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Chiasa Szalony
March 08, 2015 22:23:56

Though the concepts for winning Sylvan and Dungeon TS looked quite promising, could they actually turn faceless memories into a H6 purple fort?That would be so lame, why the votes then? :/

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 22:27:19

what's up also with "tuning the green down" when you look at the spider townscreen lol
and with purple units is just ...

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Najakir Kreeganin
March 08, 2015 22:38:42

For now, we just have artwork, wait for true town screen, maybe it will be better.

I just hope they will make true walls...

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 22:57:48

"please attack at the wall!"

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EmeraldPhoenix 
March 08, 2015 22:59:11

I don`t understand why they didn`t put more money and effort in making good townscreens. After the fail with H6 one would think they will learn their lesson and give us amazing townscreens right away from the start! I hope that these townscreens are just concept arts or something because they`re really dissapointing... As a lot of people said: they are appropriate for a mobile game but not for a Heroes game!

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 23:00:46

@EmeraldPhoenix: Well, they keep treating this franchise like crap is my opinion.

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Thranduilll Tajemniczy
March 08, 2015 23:08:24

It's scary just to think about it. I'm 100% sure it's just too late, not enought money and no one gives a **** about it. Just shocking how they ignored such an easy and important part of the game - visual part (=climate and attractivness).

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 23:13:45

I think they don't understand ...

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 08, 2015 23:19:48

@Galaad
That's probably it. I guess that the franchise does not have milions of fans so Ubi just doesn't really care. Sad...

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Chiasa Szalony
March 08, 2015 23:24:05

A townscreen-less H6 had good enough sales to make sequel, so maybe they actually believe that no one looks at towns anyway

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EnergyW Twardziel
March 08, 2015 23:28:19

Lego Spiders. Looks good, but not in Might and Magic games.

https://www.google.hr/search?q=lego+spider&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=5Mz8VKmxH87fOMf1gIgN&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=643

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EmeraldPhoenix 
March 08, 2015 23:28:28

Ignoring the visual part is a big mistake. Beautiful townscreens and uniquely designed units are what makes a game memorable.
And even though the fanbase may not be that big, they should know that townscreens are very important to the existing fans by now and therefore should give them more attention.

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 08, 2015 23:28:45

After they got forced to hastily make townscreens in H6? I doubt that...

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 08, 2015 23:31:32

I was answering Chiasa:)

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 23:33:45

Well the fan base is not that big because people keep leaving it.

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Chiasa Szalony
March 08, 2015 23:35:15

Well, what they did now kinda suggests that. There wasn't even any kind of response to our criticism, just that Cabir with his stupid "Work in progress" that could mean anything lol

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EnergyW Twardziel
March 08, 2015 23:36:07

Correction: leaving Ubisoft fan base. There are a lot of older ones around.

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EmeraldPhoenix 
March 08, 2015 23:36:54

@ptrsc: I was so sure they will show us some magnificent townscreens based on that fanuprise incident in H6... Guess I was wrong about that -.- Well they still have time to fix them. But I don`t know if they will be willing to do that. Probably not, which is sad.

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Chiasa Szalony
March 08, 2015 23:42:26

@Emerald
Same here. I was like "No way they could repeat all of H6's mistakes. I bet we'll get beautiful townscreens, normal skill system, balanced units, no more than 5 magic schools, 6 resources etc." lol
Well, at least the #gurs spam saved the skills

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
March 08, 2015 23:44:23

Well as an example, huge majority of people into Horn of the Abyss and WoG, they are not interested, at all, into h7.

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 08, 2015 23:48:54

Well, I don't have any great expectations for townscreens, for me they indeed are not THAT important, especially in terms of graphics quality. For me they have to be first and foremost immersive, unlike these senseless lego toys we got. So the devs didn't manage to satisfy even me, and after all the hate they gathered for H6 it's unbelievable that Ubi didn't change approach:|
And I don't really think there's time to improve those townscreens much, even if they wanted...

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 08, 2015 23:56:58

@Galaad
Apparently they are not the target of this game...
I'm not actually sure who is a target here. I'm thinking H5 fans, possibly H6 but that's not a vey numerous species.

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Ekohippi 
March 09, 2015 00:05:58

Ptrsc most likely they target h6 fans and new fans mainly. So far the game reminds most of h6, but i don't think they could make it as bad as h6 was.

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ptrsc Pradawny
March 09, 2015 00:15:27

@Ekohippi
But even Ubi knows, although won't admit it, that H6 was a failure (withdrawal from most of it's 'brilliant' gameplay ideas), they cannot target non-existing fanbase of a failed product... Well, whatever.
We already know that at least adventuring will be better than H6 - thanks to the abandoning of H6 innovations. I'm quite concerned though about how will battles turn out to be with this flanking system - I hope our emissaries will tell us after the conference:)

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Cubicar_2486 
March 05, 2015 22:50:27

Lava looks awful.

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