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Kaanzakin Obieżyświat
December 12, 2014 15:35:51

Well i liked the units but naming the ballista as pyramid and the catapult as great pyramid is kind of lazy.

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EnergyW Twardziel
December 12, 2014 15:37:49

Agreed. Maybe one of the pyramids could've been replaced by a magical crystal that shoots. Two pyramids may confuse many.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
December 12, 2014 15:52:02

Yeah it's a bit like Magic Bird and Arcane Eagle^^

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viragosg Furia
December 12, 2014 16:16:39

Maybe a kind of mage and a construction should replace the pyramid and great pyramid?!

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Kaanzakin Obieżyświat
December 12, 2014 16:19:10

@virasong
That is a good idea.

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viragosg Furia
December 12, 2014 16:28:19

Thanks. I try to make a Heroes VIII (I started as Heroes VII) and there I use that idea.

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GalaadleHaut Bohater
December 12, 2014 17:07:30

Come on at least one Pyramid should stay, the design is fucking cool ! I understood the critic more to be oriented about the name and the fact that they are two of them.

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 18:35:34

The big one is okay, but couldn't they come up with something more interesting? Like some crystal that could A) increase the duration of friendly spells (lets call it Focusing Crystal);
or B) increase magic defence of selected allied unit (Shielding Crystal);
or C) give ranom/selected allied creture a bonus giving some random elemental damage (Elemental Crystal)...
I mean, come on! There's so many possibilities! No creativity there? Really?...

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Milets Strażnik
December 18, 2014 18:41:29

What do you think of changing Great Pyramid for Obelisk?

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EmynonAred Strażnik
December 13, 2014 11:48:05

I have one important question:
Are the listed abilities really all abilities?
Because this looks like a bad joke.

There are people which will not buy the game because of graphic-style, unit-names or music.
I will not buy the game if it is to simple.
If I have not different possibilities, it is too boring for me.
An please give us spellbooks for units like in HoMM5!!

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ramborusina 
December 13, 2014 12:09:58

I kinda got the same problem. Limiting skills to 1-2 per unit and the recycling skills around (currently majority or all factions seem to have same basic game-play creeping, all factions have core+elite shooter and 2 melee in both tiers, multi-attack and piercing shot keep on moving around between factions, current factions will probably all have ability to heal units(repair, regeneration, heal and vampyrism)). It's looking really simplified(if not even stupified!) which is really sad to me :/

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jakubchyba Wspaniały
December 13, 2014 12:14:44

I think you don't have to worry, because these are definitely not all abilities - noone has for example ability shooter, although we know that there are some of them so I think these are only samples of abillities. They mentioned us important and interesting abillities only, for now. I guess.. So try to be a little happy at least because some of them sounds really great!

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ramborusina 
December 13, 2014 12:17:34

@jaku it depends how they classify shooter for example... I think they just put it as unit-type rather than actual ability/skill so it isn't mentioned. If stuff like immunitities and weaknesses get mentioned I would think other stuff would too... And they have said units will get 1-2 abilities -.-

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jakubchyba Wspaniały
December 13, 2014 12:21:12

PS: people why are you all the time so angry of something, can't you simply look forward because I think you are only looking for some mistakes like spoilt children because if you wanna exactly same game you can easily play H5...
there must be some changes and I think that everyone have different idea but generally i hope all of us will be glad

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KhanOfSlaughter Zdobywca
December 13, 2014 12:23:37

Remember the good old days of H1+2+3 when units had simple abilities like 'shooter' or 'Hates Titans'. Now apparently 'ARCANE WINGS' and 'MAGIC CATALYST' are too simple. Interesting.

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Decrux_Crucis 
December 13, 2014 12:24:49

@jakubchyba
I want some changes in the game and I hope they put in all the good points of all games. and one of the best points in HVI was that all the units had a high number of skills.
And redoing rechargable skills would also be great. So Disciples wont run out of mana

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Tokusatsu Szalony
December 13, 2014 12:25:31

Jaku, we are only looking game's problems and asking for change while there's still time

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ramborusina 
December 13, 2014 12:28:50

Don't you think it's better to fix problems now rather than when the game is out and everything is already done and finished? Once done many game-mechanics are linked to each other so instead of fixing one thing you also gotta modify and re-make several things linked to the same thing.

And making the game too simple and easy doesn't really fit my idea of good (strategy) game. The game needs to offer challenge and move series forward, h6 already tried to simplify and we know how it turned out.

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KhanOfSlaughter Zdobywca
December 13, 2014 13:21:15

@ ramborusina, are you saying that H6 unit abilities were simplified? Because they were the most complicated of any heroes game. I prefer what they did in H4 and H5, different abilities but simple to understand. I'm not even going to pretend to understand all of the H6 unit abilities.

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ramborusina 
December 13, 2014 13:36:51

@Khan no, I'm saying they tried simplifying the game in general with h6. In unit abilities h6 had probably 4-9 abilities for each unit of which probably 1-2 were important enough to take any real notice of.

I liked the h4 and h5 style where the amount of abilities varied quite much between units so the units felt very different. Here they just decided to use low quota in which having just single skill on multiple factions/units makes it very easy to stand out and feel boring(/nothing special).

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KhanOfSlaughter Zdobywca
December 15, 2014 04:29:43

@ SlumbrousShip5, all you've done is annoy all of the users here.

Where's the guy who nominates people for the toilet award??

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wasd1200 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 06:23:47

I guess we didn't see his value and now he's gone when he is truly needed :P

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Niwroc Pradawny
December 15, 2014 03:47:33

Please stop, just because there is a dearth of moderation here doesn't mean you should take as much space as possible with each post and then chain post the same thing. Please show a modicum of respect to your fellow users.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 19:37:53

By the way, who is waiting for the DLC with Fortress (Dwarves faction)?
Кстати, кто ждёт DLC с Крепостью (фракцией гномов)?

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Elizaveta_98 Mroczny
December 15, 2014 19:38:51

Я.

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mediczero Młot Losu
December 15, 2014 19:41:21

I am, but I rahter want to see sanctuary first...

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 19:45:34

I hope to see all 3 missing factions. And some of the new ones, which could also be the forgotten ones. :)

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Lunar__Wanderer Szalony
December 15, 2014 19:55:47

Что интересного может быть в этих ходячих тумбочках?

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dr4gm0re Szalony
December 15, 2014 19:57:18

Я думаю будет голосование между инферно и гномами.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 20:01:09

Then it would be hard to choose... as both of them are my 2 out of 3 favourite factions. :)

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Elizaveta_98 Mroczny
December 15, 2014 20:04:03

Strannitsa, кому что нравится, для меня, самая скучная раса - это лесные эльфы.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 20:22:51

А мне казалось, что скучных фракций не бывает. Strannitsa, у гномов тоже очень интересная стратегия. Может просто вам она не по вкусу.

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Mirash_ge Smok
December 15, 2014 20:23:46

Чем больше рас тем интересней играть .
1-инферно
2 Наги 3 гномы хотелось бы

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 20:24:35

Очень жду. Эти силачи уникальные войны с рунной магией. Могут подчинить к себе горных животных например барсов, медведей, яков.

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Amelisan 
December 15, 2014 20:25:26

Я жду больше всех) Всегда нравились дварфы/гномы. Хорошо, что они появились в Героях отдельной фракцией, надеюсь, что их снова добавят.

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Mirash_ge Smok
December 15, 2014 20:25:52

В гер 5 гномы с их рунной магией хороши были и интересны .

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Timur0705 Pradawny
December 15, 2014 20:28:49

Эх, сделали бы Forge и болото, ну и инферно с гномами заодно.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 20:31:52

Если говорить о фракции Forge, то мне бы хотелось, чтобы их не делали ходячими мертвецами. Лучше машинами. С очень высоким искуственным интеллектом. Ну и магическим доспехом или бронёй. :)

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 20:38:35

Все фракции уникальны вот как уломать юбиков на создании всех фракций в героях 7?

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Timur0705 Pradawny
December 15, 2014 20:38:56

MumuWarrior12, да, как раз серия might and magic это подразумевает. В МиМ 6 в середине игры встречается Оракул Мелиан он как раз является компьютерной системой, управляемой мощным ИМ, также есть бластеры и дроиды тоже в конце игры. В МиМ 7 тёмная концовка гласит, что Кастор и его соратники с помощью усилителя колебаний восстановили Небесную кузницу и начали производить оружие Древних, думаю в том числе и Роботов. Вообще элементы скай-фая изюминка серии Might and Magic, жаль юбики её утратили.=((

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 20:46:43

Чтож, тогда они могут быть механическими ангелами, например.

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 20:55:45

Опять же гномы самые лучшие кузницы. Они то же могут создать оружие без гномов никак.

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DenisBulenkov 
December 15, 2014 20:56:34

Скай фай М&M была придумана Джоном Ван Канегхемом а после покупки юбиаками они решили отказаться от скай фай, один Марзин кое как пытаеться добавлять намеки на скай фай историю этой вселенной путем пасхалок.

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DenisBulenkov 
December 15, 2014 20:56:46

Увы и ах,но думаю скай фая в дальнейшей серии мы не увидим т.к. это почему то не нравиться начальству. Воббще жалко старую вселенную - сколько интересного было в энроте и сколько недосказанного в аскеоте...

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Timur0705 Pradawny
December 15, 2014 20:57:34

Я бы хотел лично видеть дроидов у форджа примерно такими
http://mm6world.ru/galery/6_pag/75_monstrs_14.htm
7-9 картинки. Ну и в состав инферно можно было бы включить пару криган, королеву например и дьявола. Также тут дроиды выглядят солидно.
http://mm6world.ru/galery/7_pag/81_monstrs_13.htm

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DenisBulenkov 
December 15, 2014 20:58:27

Да и мы знаем что кузню планировалось добавить в аддоне к героям 3, но к сожалению не все фанаты играли в мечи магию и не все любят скай фай фэнтези - потому убрали. Всем чисто резиновоэльфов и доброфеечек подавай с картонными злодеями)

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DenisBulenkov 
December 15, 2014 20:58:45

хотел все это одним постом написать но не влезло :D

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Timur0705 Pradawny
December 15, 2014 21:03:42

DenisBulenkov, а как Вы думаете, есть ли надежда на HD-римейки Меч и Магии? Хотя бы каких-нибудь частей. Думаю, многие новые фанаты не хотят ознакамливаться из-за графики, так бы хоть приобщились к классике РПГ. И может посмотрели бы на скай-фай под другим углом.

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Elizaveta_98 Mroczny
December 15, 2014 21:06:02

Кстати, Марзин делал кампанию для 5 героев, называется она Legends of Ancients. Действие происходит в мире Аксеот. Если кому нужно, могу скинуть ссылку на неё.

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DenisBulenkov 
December 15, 2014 21:08:25

С большой вероятностью думаю что юбики постараються выжать из этой коровы как можно больше денег - так что да думаю HD на меч и магию быть) И в большинстве своем все это будет на планшетах - хотя хз как можно управление привязать к планшету. Но они пытаються освоить новый рынок игроиндустрии - и да сейчас на рынке игр прослеживаеться тенденция к реставрациям и перепродаже классических игр.

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Timur0705 Pradawny
December 15, 2014 21:08:46

Elizaveta98, я играл в 1-ю часть, где про Малустара, Голдота и Солмира. Слышал ещё 2-я есть, но на русском языке не встречал. Если нетрудно, скинь ссылку пожалуйста.

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DenisBulenkov 
December 15, 2014 21:09:11

взять ту же БГ, Долину ледяного ветра и т.д.

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antibiotic1001 Triumfator
December 15, 2014 21:12:58

Есть даже целый гигабайтный мод на Г5, там третьи апгрейды существ, еще очень много нейтралов и т. д.

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antibiotic1001 Triumfator
December 15, 2014 21:13:24

И эта кампания

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DenisBulenkov 
December 15, 2014 21:13:27

Ну марзина после этой кампании и пригласилои работать в юби (ЕМНИП)

Ну и в мод на 5 гер легенды я умудрился поиграть))

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Elizaveta_98 Mroczny
December 15, 2014 21:16:13

Тимур, к сожалению, 2 части на русском нигде не нашла. Да и на форумах героев меча и магии говорят, что ее вроде нет. Хотя слышала, что в моде Epic War Age, она переведена на русский, хотя и плохо, не знаю, правда это или нет, так как мод не устанавливала.

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Elizaveta_98 Mroczny
December 15, 2014 21:28:41

Кстати, на официальном сайте кампании: http://lota.celestialheavens.com, кроме 1 и 2 части, есть 3 и 4, у третей есть несколько скриншотов, никто не знает, кампания заброщена, или ее продолжают делать?

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Elizaveta_98 Mroczny
December 15, 2014 21:29:57

*заброшена.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 21:31:47

Может кампании больше понравится Небесная кузница, если в неё элемент фэнтези побольше добавить? Ведь у нас есть идея с ангелами. Они же создают людей. Так почему Небесная кузница не может быть из эпохи до войны ангелов и безликих? Возможно, они даже вместе содержат секреты создания этих машин (но фрагментами). И это тоже мог быть один из поводов войны?

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 21:39:27

Задумка зачётная. И на этом фоне все фракции объединяются или бьются сами по себе.

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antibiotic1001 Triumfator
December 15, 2014 21:39:39

?????????????????????77 Неужто ты не знаешь, как люди делаются))))))))))
И люди в Асхане сотворены Илатом, Драконом воздуха

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 21:43:14

Имею ввиду идею про вместилище для второй души. :)

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 21:46:26

А может драконы межу собой чё то не поделили или поспорили чья фракция ими сотворена кручи. И пошла сеча.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 21:51:27

В этом мире это точно возможно. Как и в любом мире. :)

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antibiotic1001 Triumfator
December 15, 2014 21:54:13

Может, не может... Почитай отоларинголога... то есть лор, там все с подробностями

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agar6 Szalony
December 15, 2014 21:56:36

Кажется, это был сарказм)

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 22:00:14

Да ладно мы то же мечтаем прикидываем как было бы круче.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 22:05:43

Сарказм недолговечен и субъективен. У всех разные мнения. А мечтать полезно - это повышает креативность. Все мы знаем лор. Но помимо лора есть ещё и фантазия. И конечно же она не станет частью лора. Но всё равно интересно придумать то, что могло бы быть.

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 22:09:31

Это точно. Разработчики спросили бы у фанатов какой им нужен сценарий. Мы бы такое написали им бы на лет 20 ещё хватило и игра была бы в топе.

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agar6 Szalony
December 15, 2014 22:13:10

По этому фанатам дают редактор карт, и каждый сам себе режиссер)

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 22:14:09

Я вот недавно прикидывал какие юниты могли быть у гномов круто получилось на две армии хватило бы разных по характеристикам с разными видами оружием и с зашитой.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 22:17:29

Редактором карт часто очень пользуюсь. Идей очень много разных. И про гномов интересно стало. Не поделитесь?

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 15, 2014 22:36:52

Воин гном на голове ирокез с двумя топорами в руках лицо в тату, воин стрелок на голове шлем торс обнажён торс в тату до пояса ниже килт шотландский или ирландский в руках два копья или скорпион как у римлян, далее дева воительница типа валькирии может быть верхом на животном (барс может атаковать врага разрывая врага лапами, як стремительная атака ударом враг пропускает ход, волк, медведь, горный баран), жрец магии рун и.т.д.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 22:59:32

Звучит интересно. Если у вас побольше информации, то интересно будет почитать. Но первые наброски мне уже понравились!

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volovikov37 Potężny
December 16, 2014 15:21:24

Конечно есть. Времени нет на роботе надо было.

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Renaughn Wspaniały
December 12, 2014 15:14:55

Love the lore excuse to let the tent heal constructs as well... It would suck to need to use up a turn from a shooter just to heal. With the tent, it's like Academy has 1 extra healer... which I like since I am all for academy.

Champion units rock. Wish they added what negative magical effects the arcane bird will give tho... and I assume it doesn't affect friendlies.

Lastly, the pyramids look great! I just wish they did separate structures for the other. Like I dunno a sphere then a pyramid

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Milets Strażnik
December 18, 2014 18:40:45

Hmm, I know it won't probably happen, but here is an idea. Why don't change great pyramid concept and name to Obelisk, or something more like it. I mean, Ballista and catapult are very different, but Pyramid and Great Pyramid seems too loke alike, both on concept and name. I loved the idea to make different and unique warfare for each faction, so that's my suggestion, change Great Pyramid for Obelisk.

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 22, 2014 21:41:29

Obelisk sounds great. :)

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EnergyW Twardziel
December 12, 2014 20:47:20

Crazy, they call me
After I hired
Blademages from the tavern
I got slapped by Tanis
Rest in peace, my dear one

Power surrounds me
Lying around for me to harvest
Using to make a new plan
So I can only say
Help us in making a top product!

(Just read the first letter of each line from up to bottom!)

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Marblethrone Rycerski
December 12, 2014 20:49:27

That is one of the best comments I have read so far.

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Niwroc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:56:42

They could make so much money if they had that, it is not even funny. (unlike your comment, which is)

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:58:46

And that's why it has to come true, I mean who wouldn't want to have one of those?

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 18:50:13

Though the warfare units certainly could be better, I wouldn't judge them so harshly. In previous games each faction had same boring ballistas, healing tents etc. Now at least there is some difference between them, it adds some charm to each faction. Sure those are only reskins, but still it is an improvement.
It would be great if each faction had entirely different warfare units, like Academy could get some sort of a magic amplifier, but it's not that bad now

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 19:00:39

You are probably right but I see this as walking only halfway towards the goal. They already have to make different models for them and unique animation as well. Then why not make another step and simply write some unique function to at least one machine per faction? Woudln't this bring more distinction between factions? Differentiate playstyles, even if only a little? And it's easier than making an additional unit...

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 19:04:56

Yeah, I guess it's just like with unique unit abilities - it's way easier and faster to implement when there's few of them and they work in the same way.

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 19:10:21

In other words devs are simplifying anything they can mechanic-wise aiming for the best looks. Awesome. As ramborusina says: Heroes6.5.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 19:12:58

That's my theory anyway. But it is definitely faster to implement different looking ballistas, and have them do different type of damage, than make 6 completely distinct units, that work in totally different ways

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 19:19:38

I don't think it would be that difficult to actually make them, define what they can do and when and write down the code. Basically a unit (that cannot move and fight!) with a single ability. I guess it would be more difficult to keep them balanced so that none of them will be too powerfull tool.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 19:22:50

Oh I suppose it shouldn't be hard, but time consuming, if each unit was different, each would need separate piece of code, the way it is, they probably only use one.
Coming up with creative ideas and keeping them balanced, like you mentioned, is another issue :d

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 19:31:03

Sorry for all the complaining, got riled up:P
I think I'm getting disillusioned about how will this game look in the end and I'm getting dissapointed.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 19:33:51

Oh, it's all right I got whiny yesterday, so I can take some (reasonable :D) amount of complaining today.
I'm not too hyped for this game either, but there are still 4 factions to be revealed, so I may yet change my mind... or not :)

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 19:38:18

I wonder if the Necros 'tent' wil also be healing them. That would be a bit odd:]

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 19:49:55

Maybe a resurrecting magical unit? Like Haven's, only undead

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 19:50:12

*haven's sister

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 19:52:55

It would actually be nice if it also could damage/poison/weaken enemies.

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 19:56:52

Hahah, see? Doin' it yourself! ;D I guess poisoning would suit the Dungeon better. For Necros terrifying ability for their ballista (siply lowering morale:]) would be awesome.

About that resurrecting... They already have Necromancy Skill/racial ability... And in H6 they could revive some of the fallen units in castle... That's quite a lot and getting OP.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:02:44

Necro's always OP, at least until enough patches are released :D
You're right about poisoning, but I like the idea of cursing enemies with weakness, or something similar.
Ballista causing fear is also a great idea.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:06:20

But it won't happen, tent will heal and there won't be any special effects :D because reasons

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:15:12

Yeah. Though just both of us each could easily come up with two different 'ballista' uses for every faction. Sigh... Oh, well, pożyjemy - zobaczymy....

Anyway I'm going before I'm gonna get even more irritated by this lack of creative hought among the dev team.
C'ya around:)

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:17:52

Oh, I guess we could :P
wait, you're Polish?

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:23:13

Yup:P
Nie wiedziałaś/eś? :]

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:25:09

Nie :D
Haha, no cóż przynajmiej reszta forum mogła zrozumieć nasze wywody

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:33:07

Tak, i dlatego właśnie rzadko przechodzę na polski. Poza tym - nie bądźmy jak Rosjanie;]
U Ciebie polski widziałem tylko raz i też się zdziwiłem:D W każdym razie obydwaj/dwoje znamy angielski wystarczająco dobrze by w nim się porozumiewać, także między sobą.

Swoją drogą to dość dziwne że nikt w te nasze dyskusje się nie próbował włączyć...

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:36:00

Yup, speaking language most people don't understand is rather rude and that's why I rarely do it.
I suppose the whining and Iron Panties of Doom must have scared them all off :D

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:39:55

Really? Judging by how this community acts I would rather expect them to be drawn by that;D
And if Slumbrous isn't whining enough to scare people away...

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:42:20

Oh dear, he is isn't he? I like to think our whining was too constructive to draw trolls :3
Not the "Noooo, I hate it, it has to be changed(!!!)x100" kind :D

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:47:42

Yes! You're right! We're not whining, that's called 'constructive criticism'! ;DD

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:48:04

And that's too much for trolls;P

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 20:50:29

That's right ^_^. It's just so constructive that nobody bothers reading, that's why no one ever joined our discussions. :D

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ptrsc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 20:55:46

Oh well, it's their loss anyway. :]
I guess I'm really going now.
See ya:))

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Niwroc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 21:00:55

I read it, and I agree, there needs to be more separate uses for them, possibly giving the wizard an ability with their ballista like rangers had in 5, it casts a predetermined spell on hit but drains mana when it does so.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 21:01:21

Bye :)

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 21:06:06

@Niwroc
Oh, that would be nice, also explosive blots, triple ballista etc. could return, but as faction specific this time

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Niwroc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 21:19:46

I imagine triple ballista would be good for sylvan, they could have the type of ballista that fire multiple bolts at once, I think its called the arcuballista or something like that.

Fire would work well for either Inferno or Dwarves I think.

Haven I think should keep the standard type.

Maybe orcs could get something that's almost shotgun like. Google Discworld Piecemaker to see what I mean.

Dungeon, a poison ballista that basically fires of a cloud of inhaled poison into enemy ranks.

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Niwroc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 21:20:34

And Necro, maybe something that decreases moral of those things it hits, but does little damage on its own.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 21:25:05

I really like your ideas, I was also thinking that Necro's version could cripple it's targets (slightly decreasing speed for a turn or two), since all their units are super squishy so slowing enemy down is crucial, but morale is nice as well

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Niwroc Pradawny
December 12, 2014 21:43:48

Maybe make the necromancer's ballista very unique in that it does no damage but does a 3 turn debuff that reduces moral and speed by one and with ballista skill can increase the speed decrease and/or decrease initiative by 5?

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 21:53:32

Now that is brilliant, not sure if not op, but great nonetheless. The 'tent' could cast an attack/defence-decreasing curse, could be even random. And the catapult could also have a special ability, like inflicting fear on units stationed nearby targeted part of the wall, well, that's even logical

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 21:57:32

Meanwhile, Stronghold's version could have some sort of collateral damage (friendly fire possible)

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Niwroc Pradawny
December 13, 2014 04:59:24

I'm basing the orcs ballista off of the piecemaker, It's from Discworls and is a converted siege crossbow meant to be fired by trolls and it holds a bundle of regular bolts instead of normal ballista bolts, and the only truly safe place is behind it and it has been used in the novel to do such things as blow doors off their hinges and destroy part of the surrounding wall, and break up large riots by its mere presence in the area. So, it seems like the kind of things orcs would like.

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DimaJeydar Szalony
December 12, 2014 18:36:04

I don't think that two pyramids is good idea.

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Chiasa Szalony
December 12, 2014 18:41:48

Be glad we don't have a healing pyramid as well :D

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KhanOfSlaughter Zdobywca
December 13, 2014 10:17:59

"I don't think that two pyramids is good idea."

Can you imagine if the Egyptians thought like you do?

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Aretho_lichsong Magiczny
December 12, 2014 15:17:03

absolutly loving the look of the arcane eagle and the simurgh :)

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Marbran Potężny
December 12, 2014 15:09:00

@Black Weaver

I don't think Cabeiri will have to enter the tent, I think the special thing about the tent will be that it can heal constructs.

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Black_Weaver Rzeźnik
December 12, 2014 15:19:28

Oh, I very hope so) In heroes 3 the healing tent was able to heal all the creatures, even elementals and undead))

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viragosg Furia
December 12, 2014 16:38:20

Well I think that cabirs and tent thing mean the tent can heal the cabirs and cabirs can heal the constructions.

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viragosg Furia
December 12, 2014 17:03:07

Sorry my mistake I think I misunderstood the descreption. You are right it is realy good.

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Black_Weaver Rzeźnik
December 12, 2014 15:04:08

"Sometimes, Wizard generals also affect Cabirs to the Tent, so that damaged Constructs can be repaired as well."

Very interesting idea to let Cabirs enter the tent and make it able to heal the constructs. And they will be hidden from the enemy attacks as well) Also, can't wait for 3D models!

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DeanMoriarty1 Magiczny
December 15, 2014 17:29:54

That Simurgh is about to rock on the battlefield!!

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MumuWarrior12 Obieżyświat
December 15, 2014 18:40:46

I hope that it will! :)

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LightAvatarX Nietykalny
December 14, 2014 21:31:10

Please lovely devs give us ignore button!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many trolls clustered in this website and we can't tolerate them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Dear boat there are and doctors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#GUEB

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LightAvatarX Nietykalny
December 14, 2014 21:49:30

Actually

#GUEB
&
#GUIB

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mediczero Młot Losu
December 14, 2014 19:43:05

@SlumbrousShip5
Just because you are unhappy with how this game is looking of far, you do have to spam... Think on others than youself...

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mediczero Młot Losu
December 14, 2014 19:44:01

*do not have to spam
Damn, we really need an edit button!

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