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LordofLight15 
December 07, 2014 21:43:20

i dont like the gargoyle i dont want a stone harpy more like the gargoyle from homm 3

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DzikusekPL 
December 06, 2014 18:44:30

Looks cool.

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Nekesh929 
December 02, 2014 19:34:15

гОлем охеренный

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poohblueman 
November 28, 2014 01:50:05

Now Gargoyle is mixed with Harpy.I like the idea.It make me think about stature in Cambodia.
but why sandstone Golem. Sand stone is kinda weak.

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celitonto Najeźdźca
November 26, 2014 16:57:28

The gargoyle looks awesome, maybe not as people are used to, but I love them...........

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v1adimirm Mroczny
November 26, 2014 09:06:55

Hmm, no voting???

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OddSpyHat Niszczyciel
November 24, 2014 04:36:43

Whats up with the gargoyles arm?

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KillerPancake22 Magiczny
November 23, 2014 10:36:22

Sandstone IS like, the weakest rock, so...

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Anemesis Najeźdźca
November 24, 2014 15:01:07

Yeah I'm surprised its an upgrade, maybe its a just a mistake?

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poohblueman 
November 28, 2014 01:55:19

May be he can shape shift. and I think H7 is gonna have Iron,gold and diamond Golem for neutral creatures.

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Black_Weaver Rzeźnik
November 29, 2014 20:15:20

poohblueman, agree, it would be great if each of them will look different)

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LightAvatarX Nietykalny
November 22, 2014 21:49:22

I really like all of the core creatures but I would prefer one archer core unit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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garik256 Mroczny
November 23, 2014 10:42:34

its done nicely. Don't give a fuck what would you prefer

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bjarked Doradca
November 23, 2014 23:11:17

Carbir is a shooter, it shoots fire out of it's mouth.

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behemoth97 
November 24, 2014 21:44:04

Garik256

Don't be an ass.

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Quietus87 
November 28, 2014 14:18:36

There are already enough archers in this game. I'm glad they went with a more interesting ranged unit here.

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RussianWarrior9 Rycerski
November 22, 2014 15:40:00

Чем големы различаются? Размером шипов на правом кулаке?

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melkior2014 
November 22, 2014 21:36:26

Там они с камнями улучшенные будут , по идее , если сравнить и рука дрель больше . Или что оно такое )

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Gorlig Szalony
November 29, 2014 19:54:25

Цвет может быть другим

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lotlorian Strażnik
November 22, 2014 09:44:53

классно

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Demnia Strażnik
November 21, 2014 22:29:13

I'm a girl and I've played Heroes for a long time, I'm sad at the sexist comments... Man, it would NEVER EVER have come to my mind that "OMG there is too much female units"... What the frag? I can't even believe some people are whinning about it... Just WOW. Sux it up LITTLE BOYS.

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darioio 
November 21, 2014 16:36:54

Helloo dev, it's already Friday!!

We want to see mages!

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Sussugamon Doradca
November 21, 2014 15:02:50

The thing that bothers me a little is the quantity of detail and 'art' in all these units so far. It doesn't look like units fit to battle, they are all too beautiful, too artistic, too full of armor, too full of details. As far as we could see with Academy units, they are all cuddly, fluffy and need to be hugged. Cabirs might be held by your son before a lullaby, gargoyle and stone golems might be decorating your garden, while your magic bird flutters by. I mean ... there's no menace.

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Sussugamon Doradca
November 21, 2014 15:05:30

While Haven units might be in a Royal Parade full time. The only missing thing is the musical instruments.

The only thing in H7 that feels scarier than all the rest put together, and that is proved to be H7 original artwork, is the Hydra.

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Articun Obieżyświat
November 21, 2014 15:09:26

You don't get anything more battle like than heaven... And for academy, you see guardians and workers, even mindless slaves. Wizards don't easily go to war and their main force is made from expendable and easily replaceable units like the mindless constructs. When there is no war, i guess Gargoyles are guardians in the garden as you said, cabirs are always by their forges and golems do the lifting and carrying and working

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Sussugamon Doradca
November 21, 2014 15:26:36

@Articun
Those armors doesn't make sense. They are completely too expensive for regular troops, at least considering Core units. Imagine that, given that you were so kind to make a background history for Wizards, forging all that stuff all the time, for just everyone? Costly. It makes sense having better and fuller plating for more important fighters, imho. They all look like they could be dukes, princes or someone important going to fight. For Elite/Champion, I rather agree. For Core, I don't.

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Articun Obieżyświat
November 21, 2014 15:38:46

Golems are not that costly to make, they are made of stone, clay and rarely out of Gold or diamond. And wizard community is probably made out of Houses or academies. Also, in every game since heroes V wizards appear to be rich with abundant resources when it comes to gold, gems etc.
Also, we should consider that golems and gargoyles are few (no matter how many we can recruit in game) and able to be repaired during battle.

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Sussugamon Doradca
November 21, 2014 15:50:45

@Articun
I was mainly referring to Haven units, not talking about Golems or Academy. Given that they are proficient with spellcasting, I don't take them worried about resources somehow. Academy units only look too beautiful, imho. They could be scarier, but that's just me. ;)

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dragoninnight 
November 21, 2014 16:17:43

While cabir looks cute, they're actually pretty big, in the demo they're as tall as a person.

I agree with you about the gargoyle. While I admit the designer have done research and try to make some thing new rather than the mainstream beastly gargoyle, too much details make them look more like decorations than war machines.

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Articun Obieżyświat
November 21, 2014 16:48:45

Haven units come from the wolf duchy that is very war oriented. Even their priests are prepared for war. And don't forget that at the time of the game, a lot of wars have been already fought and are still ongoing, so it isn't strange to see a lot of armor and battle ready troops from Haven.
Gargoyles i believe are decorative while not in time of War, and i don't think they were made as war machines, but they are used as such if need be. Remember a wizard has very very big vanity ;)

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Sussugamon Doradca
November 21, 2014 17:11:26

All in all, the designs are ok so far.

I dread Necropolis unit designs though: all that green glowing all over again, perhaps? The hollow and dead feeling of the black and the void, which we had in H2, for example, was perfect. Then, they completely messed up in H5 and H6 (and again, tons and tons of armors...).

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Articun Obieżyświat
November 21, 2014 13:09:18

Don not bite at me but Harpies were never supposed to be beautiful women but mosntrous creatures with female like characteristics. Sirens on the other hand were birds with beautiful women heads and mermaids we all know. So, if a gargoyle is fashioned after a Harpy, it ain't a bad thing cause it suits better the fight/scare the opponent role. Of course the traditional gargoyle has no place in Academy, since it looks demon like or dragon like and frightening.

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Articun Obieżyświat
November 21, 2014 13:11:21

It suits necropolis better or even dungeon of that matter. So, if your problem is with how the unit is named, we can change it. After all, even the harpies you refer to, look very differently in this game than previous incarnations H3-H4.
So, for the purposes of this game, the gargoyle units fits the feel and style of academy. If you don't want it to be named Gargoylke, we can discuss it.
Maybe Caryadid/Obsidian Caryatid is more to your liking

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JeremiahEmo Niszczyciel
November 21, 2014 13:32:02

I for one would want to just scrap that creature overall and replace it with a genderless Rocs. Magic Birds should also be scrapped and replaced with badass Garudas and Djinns' model should be change to a more badass model. Seriously, Djinns have a lot of potential.

But then, what can we do. They will never do that and I understand. Making creature model takes a lot of work. The best they can do is change the name. I would go for Stone Harpy/Obsidian Harpy then no harpies for Stronghold.

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Articun Obieżyświat
November 21, 2014 15:05:21

Jer, stop being so obsessed with Harpies. Even if there are harpies in stronghold they will not be like the gargoyle. Heroes VI harpies look nothing like this unit.
And honestly, it looks much more like a sphinx, than a harpy. But that is not the point.
Also rock in academy would look out of place, lore wise, and theme wise.
As for genies, there are female Jinn called Jenniah and there are a lot of clans and tribes of Djinn.

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Niwroc Pradawny
November 21, 2014 16:27:58

Rocs are wayyy to big to be core creatures, they should be at least elites and more preferably champion because the lore behind them is that they are so large they can pick up an elephant and carry it away to eat. Roc might fit ok with Academy, but if anything it would replace the magic bird due to sheer size alone. And the power that comes from being just generally big.

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Articun Obieżyświat
November 21, 2014 16:51:45

It strikes me as odd that they used the arcane eagle for a champion instead of Thunderbird that is probably an Ylath high elemental spirit.

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Sussugamon Doradca
November 21, 2014 17:46:47

When I first saw that magic bird art (and not the name), I thought it was a thunderbird. It felt nice and completely ok seeing them in Academy line up (if we consider Roc as the non-upgraded version, it would be a return to the origins as in H2).

And I loved those in H4. ^^

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 21, 2014 12:31:37

Вообщем лучшие горгульи \на мой взгляд\ были в вар-3 с превращением в камень у нежити , в гер 5 лично мне нравились , оч милые были. А вампир мне оч нравился в кинг Баунти с превращением в летучую мышь и вампиризмом . Ну в гер 5 тоже ничего так симпатичные вампы.
Чтож увидим что в гер 7 будет . Очень .очень хочу кровав. Ангела !

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 21, 2014 13:24:20

И чего всем табуретки не нравились в 5 - прикольные были

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shmelloff Rycerski
November 21, 2014 13:35:38

- Кровавый Ангел - это кто ??))

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 21, 2014 13:41:39

Это типа как в гер 5 был красный анг с вампиризмом . Не помню как назывался . " 2 -ой апгрейд .помнишь

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 21, 2014 13:42:53

Я уж подзабыла вроде откачка жизни у него была .

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Ivanovu Mroczny
November 21, 2014 14:52:51

Mirash- то были серафимы.

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Ivanovu Mroczny
November 21, 2014 14:55:04

Они воскрешались

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 21, 2014 15:00:33

вообщем были красивые и поинтересней , вот бы некрам такого типа падшего ангела !

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Black_Weaver Rzeźnik
November 22, 2014 12:32:04

Mirash-, у серафимов не было вампиризма.

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 22, 2014 12:37:50

Да уж подзабыла я . Помню что я их брала - толковые были и красивые . Забыла уж что мне там нравилось из спец способности ) 100 лет назад играла )

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 22, 2014 12:42:52

ткачихи конечно крутые , ничего не скажешь -просто их внешний вид ужасен для меня )

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Necromancer1981 Pradawny
November 22, 2014 13:24:33

как это не было вампиризма? у них осушение было...во время нападения на врага это существо могло выпить его жизнь и использовать для восстановления своей собственной или же воскресить нескольких существ из своего отряда

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Necromancer1981 Pradawny
November 22, 2014 13:33:46

в 5 героях 3 патча выходило...и если мне память не изменяет способности у этих существ менялись...помню что ещё способность Божественная месть была у этих карателей

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 22, 2014 13:36:33

Ну слава богу - а то уж я думала у меня склероз . Я ж помню -откачка была у них

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Necromancer1981 Pradawny
November 22, 2014 13:50:04

в H5 Владыки Севера - Серафимы вампирические были
H5 Повелители Орды - у них эту способность отобрали вроде...там вообще много чего изменили

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Black_Weaver Rzeźnik
November 22, 2014 13:52:10

Necromancer1981, я играл в Повелители Орды версию 3.1. Могу сделать скрин, если хочешь, "Божественная месть" и "Карающий удар" у них есть, но вампиризма нету. Может ты говоришь про другую версию, о которой я не знаю

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Black_Weaver Rzeźnik
November 22, 2014 13:56:01

Во Владыки Севера не играл, судить не могу. Если вы о них говорите, тогда сорян

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Necromancer1981 Pradawny
November 22, 2014 13:56:03

я и написал про версии...играл во все версии и c модом NCF существ для H5

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Timur0705 Pradawny
November 22, 2014 13:57:37

Кстати говоря насчёт вампиризма, он был во владыках Севера у серафимов, там они назывались падшими ангелами, наверное в повелителях орды решили убрать эту способность для балансировки.

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 22, 2014 14:02:24

Я играла во все до конца гер 5 -все дополнения 2 года . Ну елки палки или у меня склероз или у падших ангелов была откачка -и никто ее не отменял .

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Necromancer1981 Pradawny
November 22, 2014 14:05:34

да Тимур...в Повелителях Орды сильно всё изменили
а в самой первой версии H5 -даж не было что апгрейд 2 доп. отрядов делать
были только- ангелы и падшие ангелы

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Mirash_ge Smok
November 22, 2014 14:10:02

Да, дополнение \по сюжету кстати чет-такое \ толи север - и там сделали 2 апгрейд типа демонические алики -предатели . Так вот потом ничего уже не меняли у них - падшие алики были до конца -и щас есть .

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