It is your own fault that people are dissatisfied. You promised "the best of heroes", but H7 so far might actually be the worst of heroes. You said you were making the game "with and for the fans", but you disregarded the feedback from H6 (H7 is basically H6 version 2.0), you did not listen to the VIPs and the SC was nothing more than a publicity stunt. Also I'm sorry to say that Limbic has clearly taken on more than they can handle with this game.
Guess that explains why I'm still hopeful for the game. I actually liked H6...
This is indeed best in one category...
THE BEST FAILURE
I'm with you Mediczero
The same as you, medic.
I see H6 as one of my favourite games (as well as most of the other Heroes) with several very bad decisions made in the development. Fortunately many of them are the past as for H7.
There is just too many H6 supporters.
We just released the 4th RC iteration of our mod for Heroes V!
We added a balanced (and optional) Governance function as the one in heroes 7, fixes to the Advanced Random Map generator and much much more.
Check the release notes here: https://www.facebook.com/728862883891244/posts/807929939317871/
More info about the optional governance function here -> http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=41977
HoMM series - masterpiece
MMH - lame fanfiction
If this game would have been like Heroes of Might and Magic 5 with better graphics than in H6.......
I WOULD BE SUPER PLEASED ! ! !
As long as they didn't charge for a full-priced AAA title for another recycled stuff.
"Since the release of the title we gathered a great number of emails,comments and discussions concerning the balancing of the game thanks to your expertise of the franchise."
Sad you do not listen about the core elements of the game
I'm curious now what core elements you don't like?
I don't like the skill system, the high amount of magic schools, the towntree, the abilities and specializations, the governor, for example.
"I don't like the skill system, the high amount of magic schools, the towntree, the abilities and specializations, the governor, for example."
May I add?
Scales on the map, scales of some creatures, Butterfly Dragon, Strider/Soulless, blurry graphics and multiple bugs...... And still there are other examples left..
Scale, graphics are not core systems.
Well you're entitled to your opinion, I like skill system, towntree and governor. Don't like magic schools but not because there are 7 of those, but for completely different reasons. Specializations are weak though.
Town tree is great in my opinion. Sure, a bit chaotic, but different for every faction and you will get used to its mechanics soon. One of the few elemements of H7 I think they are perfect.
well yes a person can get used to anything. ))
in "heroes-7» Town-tree is the most detestable
I think @Elficelf has said all or almost all I would have said.
the ability to "Governor" compels us to take certain skills. Me too I do not like.
Elficelf --, Mirash_de--, Sorry for the interference, I believe that the ability of "Governor" useful
Mirash_de -- Please give an explanation on this issue (in the top of & “Alt”+“Shift”))) )
Economy copied from H 6 . All predictable. All governors will take in economics. My opinion - is superfluous.
I don't like the H7 game...
It doesn't do any good to the franchise... ((
>>Sad you do not listen about the core elements of the game
They said they didn't listen but they gathered "a great number of emails,comments and discussions". What are they going to do with this bunch of info? They can not even release the title.
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Galaadle to the trash
Fire Galaad !!!
Cheeyasa , Heroes 5 - a great, great game. Who cares what Ashan?
mr Belketh , stop !!!
Cultists - to the fire !!!!!
Namtar - freak
What. A new UBI universe? OK, but don't be suprised if it's even more ridiculous xPx
If the hand curves , in any universe can break or damage the game.
Mirash_de: "Namtar - freak"
так вот значит какой крупный трольчишка на этом форуме пропаганду разводит ...:))))
я не троль , я дракон и борец против культистов , LOLz ))
До звания >> ДРАКОН << тебе ещё нужно заработать 30 лвл )
пока ты просто борец :))
)) ну так ставь лайки то ))))
пока юби- лимбик разродиться вразумительным патчем я как раз до 30 доживу
будет очень забавно если ты достигнишь 30 лвл и твоя история с первым профилем повториться вновь.
Вот будет LOLz ))
ну давай накаркай ) ну до 30 нереально дойти , но если мне и этот заблочат , я тут такой хай подниму , что все звезды просто отдыхать будут и учиться ))) ^^^^
кстати тут где -то Маруся мне писала , что " мы нашли проблему и работаем над ней " )), как то мне это напоминает статьи про квест у Ваньки про Вильгельма )))
Erase Ashan and its creator. Erase Ubi.
Angnantyr, bad dancer - has always cause inconvenience its own eggs!
The priority is the game. You may like Ashan. Or you may hate Ashan.
But if the game is not good enough, you are not interested in it, whatever world it it is located in.
I like Ashan very much. But if the game is very good, located in different world, I can accept it much better than bad game in Ashan world.
You should do the same, if you don't like Ashan in opposite way.
Don't forget that world, no matter how good, will NOT save the game.
And Ashan world can not ruin good game as well.
Ashan is crap, the game is crap, I see a link there.
But of course Ubilimb does not give a crap.
Playing HoMM7 is like to take the bus in Rome's traffic: you wait, you hope, you get angry and when finally you get on, you realize that you won't arrive anywhere.
That's something! :D
I never heard it before, but you made my day :D
Crazy traffic. :)
What about changing traffic in Rome? Maybe it would help to improve this game too :P
Nothing about the AI, lol.
Sorry but AI died. Throw out of your head AI. There aren't specialists in a team who could develop good one.
Omg... Ubi please stop... sell Heroes this is horrible how can you do this...
Some blue text to highlight this comment :) Great job, thank you very much!
Indeed, they are doing better than the whole UBILIMBIC. Unbelievable.
First i want to congratulate you for the mod! Excellent work!
I just found out about it yesterday, installed it and still experimenting with it.
What i can say about the mod is that is stable (no crashes), it has enhanced graphics, better RMG. I just have a few hours with it so i cant say more, but from what i seen so far it is great and THANK YOU!
And it's optional :)
Downloading it right now :) Great Job!!!!
I only have 5 right now. When I buy ToE I'll try it as well. Good job.
"What i can say about the mod is that is stable (no crashes), it has enhanced graphics, better RMG."
Really? That is cool! :D
Top work, H5.5 seems to be the real future.
What about hiring H5.5 team as H7/H8 developers? It seems they would do very good job.
(i am not kidding, I mean it seriously).
no perforamance fix gg
Amazed you are? ))
Will neutral armies now flee from strong heroes or continue to be kamikadze?
If they would explode....
THAT WOULD BE COOL :D
At least they would offer you some challenge...
False advertising right here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhHW0vqEQFw&feature=youtu.be&t=168 . Almost everything said beyond 3:00 mark is bullshit. Such hyperbolic marketing should be punishable by law.
"Most complete heroes in franchise", "Expert AI", "Play vs anyone anywhere", "All the hallmarks are back", "You can flank from all sides", "Heroes have more influence than ever", "War machines offer new ways how to influence...", "Endless match creation options", "Complex RPG gameplay" ... Its sad how it all ended up.
What is a "franchise" - I do not know. I know that such , a bad game, hype, unfulfilled promises. I am very upset . (
You can add also a hundred maps but if the AI is stupid the maps are boring and no one will play. You got it?
Moreover, do you realize the pathetic aspect of the two-dimensional towns? What will you do about it?
Of course they dont!
But it's so much easier and faster to make boring new map, than improve AI, cause to do it, one needs to know how, and with their "level" it's not gonna happen
Yes, we should sign some petition to some institution for fraud! We really need to do this...this is second time ubi treat us like that and sold unfinished product, also lied about some feature - sim-turns!!!!
I guess their bad sales are quite sufficient punishment for them. Game was selling reasonably well only first week. Most likely due to all the trailers and lies ... but after people discovered the truth sales dropped dramatically which would explain why they offer game on sale already. They are trying to get best of the worst situation. If I would preordered the game I would feel quite offended. Luckily I already did the mistake with H6. Never again.
But yes ... if I bought this game I would want my money back for sure.
If you can set something like that up i will sign it
In US they have something like this : https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/bureaus-offices/bureau-consumer-protection there is option to file a complaint there. Dont know if there is something similar in EU.
I would love to but I really dont know where to; I know for sure there is an institution (at least in the EU MUST be) where to head all this complais!
UBI released alpha and is legally selling a faulty product they will never fix. It's a fraud and scam.
I will totally sign it :D
You can try this for EU:
You can also try this:
You can try it, but I don't think it will change anything.
Those guys also could help:
The problem is "Licence Agreement" which you accepted when install the game. :)
"...THE PRODUCT IS SUPPLIED ON AN “AS IS” AND “AS AVAILABLE“ BASIS..."
I totally agree with you, and I will sign up for any document like this!
However I don't want my money back (at least not now), but I want that some bureau punish UBI with a seious fee for misleading, moreover that's concretely FRAUD what they have done with H7 (and H6 too).
I think we need something like that, and this can be a precedent in the future for UBI and for other developers too, that they can't release an unfinished game, collect the money with fraud for it, then let it unfinished. (they did it with H6)
What a legal fraud? The problem is that the product is not "as is" Before you can install it, you need to make a purchase first. But you cannot be refunded. The thing is they describe the product, which is not the product they describe. Lies.
Steam has an option to be refunded on certain conditions within 2 weeks. Even though you accepted the licence etc.
отбреют они европейцев так же как америкосов , " Мы не виноваты , что вы не поняли наш маркетинг " .) ))
Ubi_mirash - "We are not guilty, that you do not understand our marketing.")))
Describing and selling a product that does not exist (only reminds) is not marketing. It's misleading/fraud/scam.
This is big problem of software industry. Where is a think edge between fraud and appropriate product? This responsibility are fully on a seller which can carry reputation risks only, instead financial one.
How can you evaluate promises instead of real product? There is no way. How can you that they promised to implement something but didn't to do. There is no way to prove this. If company do not care about reputation you will not have chances.
"The expert AI" is not a promise; it's a statement. They claim this product to be something it's not, in reality.
I'm not a law expert, but when I buy broken shoes, I can get a refund within 14 days. If you buy online, you can give it back without a reason (14 days). When you buy a broken UBI game - ; it's your fault. I can't give it back. They conned you. Sold you a kitch. Crazy...
"The expert AI" is not a promise, yes but who know how it must be? You know and I know also but it is only my and your subjective knowledge and opinion. Who can provide us a formal description of expert AI?
You are mistaken. It is objective to say it is malfunctioning. The rules of the game clearly imply what the AI is supposed to do/be able to do/act/behave. This is clear for everyone.
Developers from LImbic addmited the AI is not working as supposed to.
Yet they still sell a malfunctioning product.
"This is clear for everyone". Namely It is clear but obviousness is not sufficient condition to define the product is broken. I do not petendent on
rightness of my opinion, but I see that current situation is not bother UBI particularly and I can make conclusion that they know how to avoid problems.
It surprised me you improve the RMG over performance. You know, many people CAN'T either launch the map editor or play the game due to performance.
Right now I am not so enthusiastic to try to download this patch..
For the previous one DIDN'T load at all!
You will REALLY appreciate improved editor if you cannot run it or the game either.
? What you wanted to say, Antalyan?
If you can't run the game or the editor smoothly and fast, you dont' need improved RMG or map editor.
How much is version 1.6? 12 bucks?
"We are running out of coal, sir!"
"What are these blood crystals for?"
"Should we use them?"
"Use these Ashadamn things, then, She uses all! We must finish forging this next lie, I mean, 1.6 patch!"
"We'll be using the unicor as a 'new' neutral unit, sir?"
"You simpering fool, not now! We'll hold it a bit more. Throw ... throw in the phoenix, yes, the phoenix!"
"Which abilities I use on phoenix, sir?"
"Use your brains! What a phoenix is supposed to do?"
"I-I don't know, sir, in Ashan, everything seems possible!"
"Don't stutter! Hell, I say what: undead, absorb water, ranged and ... always flanks from far! That shall do!"
"Bu-but, sir, doesn't it get a bit unbalanced?"
"Hark! Go and do that! You are not paid to think and neither am I! Use that ashandamn bird as a new neutral for people to discover and hold the unicorn for a special announcement we'll be doing next week to cover up the 'out of sync' issue we don't know how to mend ... yes, it's the perfect plan ... yes... my love."
" Put phoenix riding on a unicorn to show independence and creativity, you idiots !! Urgently !!!"
..... He slammed the door in front of the noses of the accountant ....
This is bloody brilliant! Sitting @ work and laughing myself into pieces! lmao!
Most importantly it is not far from reality.
Undead, absorb water and ranged :D Phoenix erwanification complete. I would also add ability to blind people which can be quite handy given present situation. You say to save that for Unicorn? Nah ... we give unicorn goblin rider and teleport as was originally intended. We need something to disapear when we run out of lies after all.
I havent been log in for months but you my friend deserve to log in and give you a tumb up,good work,and for UBISOFT I and many others give a finger,a middle one to be more specific :).
The sad thing is, I can totally see them doing the phoenix like that. I mean look at the bloody Gold Dragon...
Also don't forget SPIIIIIDERSSSSS!!!! Phoenixes are now covered in flaming swarms of spiiiiiderrssss. (Man, I can only imagine Erwan as Doctor Smith's parody by Doug Walker.)