Sell the rights, at least I could be thankful for something.
Change devs team at least.
Developers are not necessarily game designers. But I believe we have a SERIOUS problem at Creative Direction, and also with the way Ubisoft financially treats this 20 years old franchise, staple of a genre, iconic for many generations.
Maybe we will raise money on kickstarter.com and will redeem a series from Ubisoft?) it is necessary to do something differently she will die...
There will be a risk of running into another company who might screw it up even more. Although I do agree that it may be time for the men and women at Ubisoft to reconsider if their take on the franchise is what everyone wants.
bwahaha I can see the headline :"MULTI BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY BEGS MONEY TO FANS"
I it is simple in despair the dude... xD
There is a wish to take a flame thrower and to go to the headquarters of Ubisoft))) to rescue a series "might and magic" by means of fire and sword of xD
>>Developers are not necessarily game designers,
Yes, but now It needs somebody who knows about such things as coding, testing and optimisation, who know how to develop AI, who have experience in AI development. At this point, I see the current team is not able to solve such kind of tasks, because they fixed practically nothing since beta test.
About Creative Director, yes, but it is long term perspective
@Marblethrone - I would like to take that risk.
>>There will be a risk of running into another company who might screw it up even more
to be screwed more than Ubi it is impossible
"bwahaha I can see the headline :"MULTI BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY BEGS MONEY TO FANS""
Another good one GalaadleHaut! :D
Ubisoft should hire us as developers and designers!
Wouldn't that be great or what? :D
At least we know what fans and players really want! :)
Don't know exactly about selling the rights, but an alternative action would be to force Ubi to fund the project better. H5 happened and many enjoyed it. It can happen again, just with an experienced dev team with more time and money.
heroes title should never be used again. let this be my last words, goodbye everyone. i ll not write again, i advise you to do same too. we dont need to try more and more. lets just give it up for real.
It is always the same: "Sell the rights".
I bet, if Ubi really does it and this game will get to another company, this company will treat with it much worse. Then you will be surprised and you will want Ubi back (although it can seems to be nonsense for you now).
Can't be worse than Ubi.
Ubi is killing the franchise with each game they make.
Galaadle, there is no assurance that any publisher would buy the rights to the series. Let alone any assurance that they would do better.
Knowing the nostalgia-obsessed conservative section of heroes fanbase, nothing would ever be acceptable.
They won't. They'll keep them tight as long as possible.
This has nothing to do with nostalgia, the majority of people here simply want a good game or at least one that is not full of bugs.
Also, the "conservative fanbase" is the one that is keeping Heroes alive, after the fiasco of H6 and now with the current mess that H7 is, I can guarantee you that there won't be a lot of new Heroes fans for a time, at least until the day a company release a new decent Heroes game.
I do not know the franchise. I loved the "heroes of 5-6." I listened to a lot of good about the heroes of "3-4". I was promised the best of the series. I was deceived.
1 A simple example - I can not find former players - friends \ 6 \ in multiplayer, because there's not even a game chat.
2 The second is a simple example - the game is not playable in multiplayer. What nafig game made by 50 per cent.
All that I liked the H 5-6, I do not see .
Yes, there are many good points in H 7, who drowned in a mass of errors and assess their currently very difficult.
I do not just write, I'm uh, I 3 missions for the Orcs in H 7 ...
2015 multiplayer, no profile, no ratings, no multiplayer component normal. ,,,,
And if there is, I'm sorry, I lost the telescope ))
>>What nafig game
I do not understand why other games do not have connection problems in multiplayer. Why, when you play in the game from Ubisoft, a connection endless problems.
Ok . Sorry for my bad English.
I guess all these things will be fixed in patches.
Honestly, I think that some people in Ubisoft which are responsible for the release dates, calculating budget and making the most important decisions should get fired, like right now. Right now I am asking myself: do they even care about all the hate towards their company? They should, because that bad reputation will come back in a financial way.
They have put Heroes in pure 3D - I did not complain. They have made new lore - I did complain but I got over it. But now - they are actually, literally killing the series. And this is just... wrong in many ways.
Ubisoft, please sell the rights to someone who will care about their game.
I understand that they want to make money - it's undisputed, that's the way it is.
But selling an INCOMPLETE product for that kind of money...? This is just.... arghh... Seriously. Ubisoft, please rethink your policy.
I am starting to be hungry.
I want a kebab in tortilla. I want a perfect Heroes game.
Unfrotunately, I will get nothing of it.
Getting kebab in tortilla is easy. Just ask for meat from kebab only, bring with yourself a tortilla, put meat into one, wrap it it and voila, kebab in tortilla is ready! Think of something more difficult next time. ;)
I guess Ubi will not give me some money to do it, as the compensation for this unfinished game :(
And something more difficult? It is to fix this this game. It is very, very difficult.
It's impossible to defend this situation. If you work in a company, if you want that your client buyes your product, it must be perfect. Why in the videogame industry this doesn't happen? I am a customer and I want a perfect product. If there is some bug but not too much, ok, maybe devs hasn't notice them. I don't mind patches when the game has almost no one of them.
But when it is clear that there are a lot of bugs, a poor optimization and a large amount of similar things, they must have noticed them... and if they release the game and haven't fixed the bugs, there is no excuse.
And not, it is not a excuse that in 2015 almost every game has problems. It is really pathetic. The reason why this happens is because there are people who defend this unfair situation. If people doesn't buy the game in a bad state, publishers would work more for a perfect state of the game.
If you are going to buy something, it must be perfect (or almost perfect in software industry). Or do you buy a broken vase, a broken photoshop, a broken... whatever broken? No, simply it doesn't happen because companies wouldn't have any costumer interested in their products. I want the same with games and it should be so.
P.D. And what will assure that the game will be fixed? They promised continue patching M&MX and they didn't, Assassin's Creed Unity hasn't been fixed, and so on. What if they don't fix the game as sometimes has happened? But, of course, we must be patient and praise for a good game. Right now, the game for physical edtition requires 11GB more. And with the patches, perhaps the game will need +20GB more than it should be. It is fair to physical costumers?
It is impossible to defend this situation. Simply, it is not fair.
It's because they are shameless **** who don't give a ****. They were warned long before your posts and what? They "have learnt on their mistakes" LOL
I'm talking about publishers who should be aware of the state of the game or its condition to release any crap on the market.
Or whoever responsible for this whole mess. As long as I can understand some or any design differences that might appear among the community, this has no excues whatsoever.
It is pretty sure that they will explain this situation blaming against fans or devs or whatever, the same as happened with H6. Of course, Ubi is perfect, ubi is love, ubi is eternal and the fault is not their.
How can you blame community for releasing a buggy or broken game? Totally opposite of what people could have expected. This is not even possible in real world.
If I remember, they did it with H6.
Did they blame a guy who went to a store, got a DVD of Heores, came back home, and couldn't play, enjoy, or lauch the game?
Not, something like suers don't understand or something similar. Always excuses. But never they.
Or maybe for the AI who is a lot more stupid than H1 - the quality equals almost C64 times - we have a bit AI in 2015. Very cool. Get it very cheap. Only 50 Euroes :D
8 BIT AI in H7 :) Cool ;)
That's too much. 1 Bit is enough :D
8 Bit graphics with 1 bit AI. Should work pretty well XD.
It will be the future, trust in me!
I want to disagree, the AI is extremely smart.
It does so many on the first sight stupid things, making you so angry, that you will stop playing this game and not find some more mistakes...
Limbic: We cannot change the SCALING of creatures due to the models integrity
It is the next evidence of the fact that Limbic is NOT EXPERIENCED enough to make this game.
Loving the new scales. Thanks Lion, simply amazing what you were able to do in 1 week. Great work!!!
we were deceived , let us normal the SCALING !
Maybe Limbic should at least integrate this mod into the game...
Change the devs team.
I love the new scales, as if the dragons/ champion level creatures are back to the right size.
It is necessary to change the scale, the map is now like an anthill
the camera must also be improved
The Mirash should be the same ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Мурку тож пофиксить ) )
А как ты меня пофиксить хочешь?)
готовлю патч , ночью выложу 【ツ】
ок, ок... Жду обновы.
The H7 map has ever been an anthill...
Hero looks like a small ant )
you must be joking.
your telling me to mess with game.. cheats.. seriously?
im done with your cheap ass lies. i will wait for 1-2 week for fixes, and if not i will fucking burn data, erase all about mmh7 from my computer and my own memory.
YOUR EDITOR ISNT CABALE OF PUBLISHING MAP!
most complete release.. yeah sure i bet it is!!!!!
Yes, they offered us to work ))
Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum !!!
How often does the map editor crash while you work on it. I can`t keep it running at all when i came home from work today. Same as launchday. On wednesday and thursday i could play it for hours on end.
And did you try to use the script tool. I can`t even do simple scripts. I did begin with events before triggers as i learned watching tutorials.
I`ve learned the most important things by now. What i want to do with it anyway. Like how to use the content browser and sculp terrain like mountains and rivers. Just want to learn how to setup quests, dialogues and tekst messages with the script tool soon.
Unfortunately they aren't joking. LOL
Oh dear... I sometimes think Cleglaw may have some sort of bipolar disorder. At once, he's all for the game and will defend it no matter what. After some time, he completely changes his mindset and would love to burn the whole of Ubisoft. People are really hard to comprehend.
Did you feel cheated by Ubisoft? Well, here's Ubisoft solution a "CHEAT WINDOW"!!!
Isn't that ironic?!
Haha! Truely is. :D lol
I never got working cheating on Heroes 5 though. :)
Cheated yes its the real word
More like "iconic" for Ubisoft rather than "ironic".
All Management of m&m brand at ubisoft should resign. Dont hide behind ubi name .. this is fault of few particular people who make the decisions. Shame.
Are you questioning the flawless work of the Great Spider Messiah Erwan???
Just because he himself said "I don't have a vision for how Heroes should be" and was involved in the two consecutive failures of H6 and H7, is not reason enough to fire him, right???
le poisson pourrit toujours par la tête
not fully. Schedules and financial frames are set up NOT by people involved in franchise most probably. So nope, that's Ubi's fault in a whole.
In Russia they say "the fish rots from the head"
@ Sempai_Mur : well this is exactly tragedy of the situation, it is unclear who to blame. Ofc I dont know what structure ubi has. But there must be someone responsible who approved - "Yes release the game" or someone who said "This is schedule and therefore release the game". Management should have at least ask for more time if they were not directly responsible.
Besides all that is directly lying to fans, reassuring them that no extra time is needed. There is no doubt that game is getting better, but they must have known that game is not ready yet. What kind of policies for public interactions does ubi have if they allow such behaviour? Dont promise something you can not fullfill. Simple as that.
But frankly I am not surprised and havent bought the game yet, I just feel sorry for all the uninformed people who bought the game in their greatest intentions who feel dissapointed now and of course I feel sorry for heroes of might and magic. This franchise deserve better treatment.
Their fault if they pre-order. There were red flags all over this place and in other forums.
@logical.dust, since Assassin's Creed Unity and Tetris on PS4 which sucked a lot, I believe, it's a general (common) policy.
When I bought the game, I expected smaller errors at this time. What I've seen so far from the game was beautiful. I'm grateful for what I have seen. Just my opinion...
I can't share your skepticism. Of course, much more needs to be improved. If you buy a new kitchen or a new car or something huge... at the beginning there is always something what needs to be fixed.
>>at the beginning there is always something what needs to be fixed.
There's a difference when "something needs to be fixed" and when "this freaking game is unplayable". C'mon, regarding the feedback, they didn't make QA at all. There's no excuse for that.
60$ for such a poor quality? Are you joking?
I really not understand - where the game optimizations? Why so high requirements for PC? Graphics better than Crysis 3?
Why such a bad attitude to players?
I really very disappointed! I can't expect THIS !
Welcome to Ubi-land a place of mysteries and with a insane amount bugs
I'm not talking about any kind of personal tastes and preferences, they say Heroes 3 were better. No! I'm not even going to compare the two games.
But it is impossible release the game with such a huge amount of in-game bugs and horrible, no! disgusting game optimization.
I hope that if the next part would create, it was not by UbiSoft. // I repeat - I am very disappointed.
You will not be so disappointed. Just ignore this release and wait several more months, then this game will probably be well playable and great.
"I can't expect THIS!"
I believe that no one, not even the most pessimistic, was expecting something like what's going on...
Good times when our biggest problems were the Townscreens, Spiderpolis and the anti-feminism crusade of JeremiahEmo...
Townscreens are still crap and Spiderpolis didn't go anywhere. And there's all the gameplay problems. And the bugs. And the CE boxes shipped without CD. Etc
And missing true animations. And too small objects. And ...
Well, we still have senseless female creatures with forced background. For example, in an empire that is inspired in medieval Europe, why women have the same rights as men? This is not about sexism or anti-sexism, it's about coherence and historical accuracy.
I totally agree with you. I bought a game witch is just so buggy it can't be played. Even after two releases of "beta tests" and after them what? Questionnaire with so stupid and pointless questions like - "do you like HoMM series?", "Which HoMM series did you like most?", "What Ubisoft games were you playing last year?" My gosh... Really Ubi? This is what beta tests are for?
But I think this was just a trick to pay you for the game. Then you "finish" it, release and we are actually beta testers. We are just a free beta testers...
I see that this is just a standard Ubi procedure when realeasing a new game. AC: Unity, FarCry 4 and M&MX, well.
I can understand a few bugs but there are so many of them that I can't clearly see the game because of them. It's like walking in the mist (of bugs).
The game concept is good. But... with:
1. A campaign which is bugged to the core - I stuck at 2nd mission of necro and I see people have a massive problems with other fractions too - all campaign unplayable...
2. Dissapointing intros - does it feels stationary or is it just my opinion? So cheap...
3. Stupid AI battles - are you fighting 100 liches? No problem, split your skeletons, they will 90% chance focus your 1 skeleton pack on by one instead of your 70 spiders or 100 banshees. This fighting algorithm is just a bullsh* t. I have never seen that in any HoMM games.
4. Music - did you hear it before? Like for about 3 previous titles? So cheap...
5. So many other bugs like:
a) fire wall spell (cast on large creature back is cast on his front instead)
b) resource or gold income information shows wrong numbers from time to time (like 90% of it)
c) spell timers often don't work well - surprised that your foe can shoot a missle in your face in 2nd turn after using Fog Shroud on it? Welcome to HoMM7 full beta game release.
This game is just a shame and not worth your money. Don't buy it unless they will repair this crap.
I am really dissapointed of this game. Good title with a potential, but broken. As usually Ubi did a great job with showing no respect for us.
They are masters of the kitchen - speciallity in reheating the old steak...
Though the game core is good. I like it but those bugs all around... sigh
I have a little suspicion that developers or whoever is responsible for correcting this release catastrophe are resting this weekend...
People did not pay little and received a kick in the ass! They are waiting "patiently" and apparently the ambient is like "Bah, you can wait a little longer, all games always have bugs, it is normal"... No! It is not normal!
I want to understand the side of developers, but it is inexcusable a situation like this when you remember that this game is VERY famous, it's a GREAT franchise, as or greater than Civilization and the company responsible for it also is BIG! How did it happen? HOW?
No one noticed the state in which the game was in the release? No one saw the missions impossible to complete? No one has tested it before launch? No one noticed that the game is inferior to the Heroes 1 in some aspects? Perhaps the first King's Bounty is better than this game at some points! This is unbelievable! Indie games made by ONE person come out with fewer bugs at launch! Facebook games has further elaborated animations!
I'm watching the storm of negative tests since launch, watching gameplays and I still can not believe some things I've read and seen... The initial cutscene without even lip movement! What the hell is that? A joke? It was better a comics sequence! Heroes getting negative experience for victories? WTF?
If this game were free, it would be understandable to... But no, it's paid! And it's not cheap! People are buying it and not everyone knows these forums to be informed of the situation ... By the way, this game has no tutorial! If a restaurant caught people's money and deliver to all spoiled food, or only dishes without food or dog food, would be acceptable? So why is this case? Just because it's a game?
Always interested in the question of how computer games industry deceives the people ...Well, luckily the people and deceive business, there are torrents and pirated products =)
Surely someday I buy the game in some promotion, but not before testing a Jack Sparrow version to see if it is already free of bugs... I do not want to pay to suffer
Actually, whether you like it or not, buggy releases are normal in today's gaming industry. But is your rant against the devs necessary? You obviously have little to no idea how game development works, they have quotas and dates set that they need to fulfill. It's not like they can decide over night and say "oh look, we want to release it tomorrow". You can't compare and indie game to this, indie games aren't usually buggy because of how small scale they are. Very unfair comparison.
I already suffer enough trying to play Might and Magic Heroes Online, which for years suffers from the same problems... All complain of the same things from the test version years ago, and even today, the same mistakes and bugs exist
Several weekends without being able to play because apparently everyone will go home and the game is delivered to the roaches
The developers aren't that big, they don't have even near the funding or staffing that AAA developers get. Just because Ubisoft, the publisher, is a big company does not mean they will pour excessive amounts of funding into this series. After all, Heroes is niche and no where near as popular as the big AAA sellers. Also, who are you to say that they are resting this weekend? That's a immature attack.
PrayingSeraph, you are really trying to justify the state that this game was released? Really? Do you really think the players who paid (again, not a cheap game) need patience? Oh really? I do not know how the process of creating a game? I study games! I do know how it is! But that does not absolve them of guilt!
The guilt can not be all of the developers, but also in part... Who stipulated deadlines, who made a bad work, who LIED saying it was okay just to sell the product, who distributed incomplete games, all have guilt
Nonono, I'm not immature...
Immature was the launch of the game =D
Besides, look at my name... Tokusatsu, the Mad!
Hey, "Mr. Defender," everyone has their own work. Ordinary consumers pay for the work and requires quality. What do not you understand?
You know why I'm angry, Seraph? Because I, like many, despite seeing errors in the game, we wanted a good game! And we got this party of absurd bugs in a game by half... The game is good? It may be, but it's in a catastrophic state! And that has been repeating... And will probably happen in Heroes 8... And with that, the franchise dies, until the day that no one will want to risk it
And it's not hard to make a good Heroes game... The players know what should be done, they have been saying in mass here and in the forums, everywhere what should be done... But apparently, the only ones not understand this are the responsible for the game... And we culminate in the situation that we were ALL warning for months
Heroes Online bugs were nothing for an MMO. Ever play Elder Scrolls Online?
You say you study games, yet you show absolutely no knowledge of them. If you did, you would know that developers and even publishers don't always have the luxury of postponing games.
The core game itself is really good. It is just suffering from bugs, a temporary problem. It's like Total War Rome 2, when it came out it was really buggy(even more than this game), but now after the patches it is really good.
Also, unless I missed something, I have not seen the developers ever advertise the game as bug-free. Thus, you cannot objectively claim that they lied.
Also, don't talk for what the fanbase or consumers want. Even the forums are very limited, and only a few outspoken members constantly rave their opinions.
Okay, okay, Seraph... You're right... The game only has bugs, this is normal, okay... The players just need to be patient, that's right... After all, it is not wrong to pay for an incomplete product because it's normal, games have bugs and we just be patient... And the Heroes Online bugs are nothing, it's all my imagination and several other players who complain too... By the way, apparently no one here understands nothing, analyzes on Steam are from people who do not understand how things are
Being sarcastic is not being objective.
No one forced you to buy any game. You know, bug problems aren't that bad compared to other problems. You know why? Because they are temporary and can be fixed. Not every problem with other games have this luxury. Being dramatic over it is rather unfitting.
Heroes Online bugs did/do exist, but seriously, they were laughably nothing compared to bugs in other MMOs. Again, look at Elder Scrolls Online if you want to see real bug flaws.
Ultimately, what many fans like you are missing, is pragmatism. I get why your mad, but I disagree with how you are handling it.
I'm being sarcastic to end the discussion because I will not convince you to nothing and you will not convince me or who is giving likes in my comments (do not know who was)... I know that the game will be fixed, but not that's the real problem... Neither game release with bugs... The problem is the absurdity of the bugs!
But anyway, I can only complain... If I do not complain and no one complain, nothing will change... And probably not change with complaints also!
And other games with more bugs, or be in a state worse or similar, is no excuse for what happened to the Heroes 7... It just means that other companies or games or whatever made worse job and are also wrong
Things should not be leveled for the worst, but the best
I am all for giving feedback, but melodramatic complaining is anything but pragmatic. Again, I completely get why people are mad, completely get it, but what I am encouraging is to look at it from a different and objective point of view. I mean, had they delayed it a month or two, released it without many bugs, would you be mad? If not, then why get mad if you decide to wait a month or two for the full wave of patches?
I think you are misunderstanding my position. I am not stating that it is good for publishers to release buggy games. What I am saying is that is common(like it or not) and that Heroes VII is hardly the worse case scenario. What I am saying is that instead of wasting time being melodramatic, we can do our best to not only help the developers find said bugs, but also use cheats to progress OR hold off until patches.
Okay, I think I speak in the name of everyone when I said we shouldn't change things in important files of the game to enable the cheats. You should put this as an option in the Main Menu (enable/disable cheats), and not force us to do things that we may not understand. Not everyone has a degree in computing, and I personally have the fear of broke the game if I start to change things in those files, even if you gave me precise instructions.
Please, Devs, listen to me.
The dev team can`t handle the mess. Such a small team to fix all of this.
You are absolutely correct! I wouldn't touch those scripting lines because I have dyslexia!
So there is very high chance that I will write something wrong.
+ I personally am not going to break the head
"I personally am not going to break the head"
Yup. I think there is high chance that game won't work then. So I will wait for disable/enable button to be appeared. :)
@ Elamivuoul , We have the "Exit" button ))
This is business. Even if it is harsh, not a single tear must not be shed, for they have responsibilities and people's expectations. Such is the part when one must go through game industry's decisions.
You need degree in degree in IT to find text in text file and edit it and save?
It takes about whole 60 seconds to find file, edit it and save.
If you are people so inept in handling computers, maybe you should find some hobby that you can handle, like shooting ducks or something.. That doesnt require that much brain.
Kids these days..
whoops. I thought i added a line that says to save the release from growing out of their hands. This game will be playable at some time ive got no doubt about that.
I do think there is some talent among the developers and some that speak out which is rare in the gaming industry. I`m Lucky not to be in their shoes at this moment.
Its just a shame because i really think this could be the game that keeps me occupied for months. And it will if the game is more stable. And with editor support.
@FuckingEveryOne - ¬¬
Okay, fuck you all too. But I will remember to you all one simple thing: in Heroes 3, the BEST game of this saga, you didn't need to change stupid codes in stupid files.
So, why in H7 do we have to change stupid codes in stupid files? Checkmate, bitches.
Not that I am going to buy this crap or something, just pointing this out.
I'm so sorry for my girlfriend, she preordered the game for me for my birthday cause she knew i love the franchise, sorry but you don't deserve her money, you don't deserve money from anybody at all.
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My God! Increasingly I think that those responsible for this game were playing soccer and drinking for months instead of working...
It is more likely that a player alone will corrects the game bugs and fixes the animations before the company itself
Very, VERY good job, Mr3Lion!
Just AMAZING!! What in the HELL has Ubi/Limbic been doing!!?? Here we have a fan re-scale dozens of creatures in ONE WEEK and Ubi/Limbic couldn't even do ONE black dragon in a month and a half. I completely agree with you, Tokusatsu, they clearly aren't invested in the game at all. So upsetting and sad.
We will build the Babel Tower to reach the Sky! - God confused the languages...
We build the Titanic, which can not sink! - Titanic hit an iceberg and sank...
We'll create the best Heroes of all time! - Ubisoft launches Heroes 7...
Does anyone see any similarities?
Wow and here I thought I'm going to be busy for the next couple of weeks playing Homam VII. I understand balance issues or small bugs in the game but actually NOT BEING ABLE TO FINISH CAMPAIGN?? This is very disappointing. I don't remember anything of this sort with previous games apart from Homam VI. Very not cool. The plague of bugs in the previous installment was the reason why I didn't buy the game for the first 2 years. I see I should have done the same with this as well.
Lesson for the future. Never buy UBI games at the release nor preorder anything. They make awesome games.....they just don't release them awesome.
dude, you are totally worng i have playde human campain and the other one,s too and i do not have that bug so i thing mutch be you computer that,s sucks and thats is my apenion!!
sjesiak is totally right. Ubi do good games but their policy sucks. We have to stop playing their games in preorder and in the release date. Totally agree.
benseboy2014 Man just read all the comments. People have massive problems with the campaign and this is not computer fault. You are either blind or worse to not see this. Besides the campaign there are massive problems with the whole game. Not to mention not finished intro of the campaign...