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Antikouras The Wanderer
July 13, 2015 21:14:43

The heroes are looking nice, the grass is green, the sky is blue, the spesialisations are bad, etc..

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v.o.r.t.3.x. The Destroyer
July 13, 2015 21:23:01

Bad Specializations are nothing new. It's unfortunate and I hope they change them eventually.

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Antikouras The Wanderer
July 13, 2015 21:26:19

yes they are nothing new, we expected them, but i still hope that they may reconsider with negative feedback

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jshalky The Mighty
July 13, 2015 22:18:08

Lets hope they will do something with the specialistions. But based on the progress so far it does not look very promissing :(

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v.o.r.t.3.x. The Destroyer
July 13, 2015 22:32:44

I can almost grantee these will be the specializations upon release seeing as it's not that far away. I don't like it but I'm being realistic.

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Cleglaw The Councilor
July 13, 2015 22:53:31

allright im joining to this, specializatations are bad indeed. i hope they make them a bit more usefull and diverse; fun.

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mErEnEfErEee The Furious
July 14, 2015 00:42:31

No, they will not make them we want or change them. Don't even hope. They would have to implement and integrate a specializations per level, which would have to completely replace and rebalance many aspects of the game. So sad but true.

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mErEnEfErEee The Furious
July 14, 2015 00:45:50

There are no true specializations in this game. They are based on the same three aspects, which give some bonus to a hero making them so boring and similar to each other. It's mostly based on H6, unfortunately. Bring back H5 specializations!

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mErEnEfErEee The Furious
July 14, 2015 00:47:10

Bring back H5 specializations and make them even better!!!
Bring back per level specializations and make it even better!!!

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v.o.r.t.3.x. The Destroyer
July 14, 2015 01:17:23

I couldn't agree with you more. We really need this to make having a hero feel exciting! Otherwise it's just a bunch of governors with no real difference in skills.

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Matooob 
July 14, 2015 01:18:49

That would make all of us, very happy. Hope they relize it.

Btw. dont know how you guys, but i am definitly more than weary of nice subtle gaylooking elves and pixies. Horns on collar, please not. Girl look fine and Syrael would too, without all this fancy stuff.

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RobvD84 The Mad
July 14, 2015 08:59:53

Yeah they shouldn't just slide it aside, atleast give it some thought Ubi. You could make it work for both governor and adventure map/combat.

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Antalyan The Ancient
July 14, 2015 10:22:48

There are not much things whole our community has the same opinion about, but heroes SPECIALIZATIONS is one of them.
You cannot nearly find someone who likes current ones :-)
So if you are not blind, Ubilimbic, you will see that specializations need to be changed.

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Antalyan The Ancient
July 13, 2015 19:16:37

And I will apply you again to think about SPECIALIZATIONS increased by level.
It is a pity to have so amazing heroes with so stupid specializations.
Why are they stupid?
1) without originality at all
2) useful only at the beginning of the map.
Having three sylvan cities and hero on level 20, how can help me increased growth of core units by 3 for example, or one starting ability!?
The specializations we have now are hero starting bonuses, not true specializations.

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Antalyan The Ancient
July 13, 2015 19:20:15

Also, why you have not revealed stronghold faction ability?
It is very unlogical.

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jshalky The Mighty
July 13, 2015 19:52:19

Maybe they are still working on the skills for it

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Antalyan The Ancient
July 14, 2015 10:50:37

Possible but strange, stronghold skill has been done in April...

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RobvD84 The Mad
July 13, 2015 19:12:18

I think it's a bit of a shame you kept dungeon in the dark during this voting (yeah i know a lot of ppl have already said this, but it can't be said enough). On 1 side you should have given all 4 faction equal information, but on the other side you can also say that there might be a chance since Dungeon doesn't have any info ppl will vote for it and it might actually win.

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Marblethrone The Chivalrous
July 13, 2015 19:16:52

"kept dungeon in the dark". If that was a deliberate pun, you win this round!
_
I said it during the vote as well: Dungeon-voters are going for a mystery since nothing is revealed yet, only a Ihail) Hydra-upgrade artwork which was in one of the Fanday photos. So if Dungeon wins, will the devs keep it a secret until the Beta, or will they unveil the important things before that? Who knows...

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RobvD84 The Mad
July 13, 2015 20:21:35

No it the pun was not intended, and even then i am not the kind who is going to say it was intended or not.
Anyway, yeah i know some ppl had said that in the voting. But still i think it was always going to be a close one between Sylvan and Dungeon (still hope the black undead will win together with one of these 2 factions).

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Cleglaw The Councilor
July 13, 2015 22:57:38

unfortunatly they did the same with faction votes, dwarves and inferno were to be judged by the past games meanwhile sylvan and dungeon were already good. it was unfair.
again, they relase sylvan oriented news, all factions but dungeon is know, and they make a vote.

unfair, unfair, unfair.

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Rentner65 The Guardian
July 14, 2015 09:58:46

You need information to pick your favorite faction? Seems weird. At this stage of the development of the game all of the 4 factions that can be voted for need fine tuning therefore everybody should pick what he/she likes.

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Lucifael7 The Mad
July 14, 2015 10:15:06

@ Rentner65
Yes you need information about what you vote.. We are voting for 2nd beta now, all 4 will be in the completed game. But how can u vote to test something you have no clue about? Preferred faction? I preferred Sylvan (rampart in homm3) since h3 but they actually used native american concept for 2 units and current american concept(pixie + doe) for a faction that has elves that are originally from West-North-West Europe. You know what i did? I changed my vote to a different faction.

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Rentner65 The Guardian
July 14, 2015 10:32:21

Lucifael: I gave the answer in my previous post: All factions need testing. Therefore, from a beta / developer approach it doesn't matter which factions get picked. The lack of information about Dungeon might even be an advantage as people are curious about them.

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sttanma The Dark
July 13, 2015 18:55:49

Finally, elven heroes look like elves and not like indians. Good work this time. If only you tried this much when you created elven units.

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Lucifael7 The Mad
July 13, 2015 19:28:40

Hopefully in the next version:) For now lets just admire the beautiful art works from above!

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Binouz1976 The Mysterious
July 18, 2015 14:05:21

Dirael is so lovely

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KhanOfSlaughter The Conqueror
July 14, 2015 06:40:57

*logs in*

*clicks 'Best'*

*Scrolls down, and down*

Hmm, I think people want better hero specializations...

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Kimarous The Magnificient
July 14, 2015 07:02:27

And as usual, complaining that the specializations are "bad' without explaining what would be BETTER...

If the Heroes community as taught me anything, it's that some people will complain no matter what.

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RobvD84 The Mad
July 14, 2015 08:58:02

@Kimarous Not really the problem there mate. Whe have given suggestion a lot of times and i think most of us already think they know what we want. But since they don't react, we just keep on telling/yelling them that we want some changes, it doesn't have to be much. But atleast Ubi should give it a thought and not just slide it aside, thats what i think.

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Mirash_ge The Dragon
July 13, 2015 23:35:10

" Keep in mind all of this is still work in progress, especially the class attributions and specializations. "
Rrrrr rr woof !

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RobvD84 The Mad
July 14, 2015 09:00:41

Yeah i don't buy that anymore.

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Mirash_ge The Dragon
July 14, 2015 09:08:26

however , I'll sometimes growl , no words already (

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BigBadMother The Destroyer
July 13, 2015 19:38:09

Same lame spezialisations as usual :-(

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jokoo111 The Furious
July 13, 2015 17:15:04

I missed the elfs in mmh 6, I´m glad they´re back

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Der_Held55 The Mysterious
July 13, 2015 21:37:12

Again bad and boring specializations. Where are specializations that depends on hero level???
Monster production, some started skill (that has all heroes in heroes 5 by default!!!) - awful!

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mErEnEfErEee The Furious
July 13, 2015 19:56:28

All heroes in this game have either +magic, or a bonus skill (that you may not want), or a production increase - very innovative, indeed, OMG.

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mErEnEfErEee The Furious
July 13, 2015 19:42:46

Change the naming because these are not "specializations" but bonuses. These heroes have no real specializations. Besides, they are all the same. All hereos have the same specializations. This will be so boring as hell!

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Alex3453455 The Councilor
July 13, 2015 17:20:16

Нормально, но вот зачем художник так поиздевался над Sylrael. Зачем эти нелепые щитки с рогами на плечах, закрывающие шею? Просто безвкусица не более.

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DarMior The Wanderer
July 13, 2015 17:33:22

Вы ошиблись сайтом. Здесь не "Модный приговор".

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Alex3453455 The Councilor
July 13, 2015 18:55:04

DarMior
А ты знаток рашен ТВ. А то я даже не в курсе что у них сайт есть. Иди гавкай в другом месте пёсик, ты раньше лучше слушал команды хозяина, совсем распоясался, щенок.

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DmitriyNetsevW The Faithful
July 13, 2015 19:03:46

Кастор сам себе хозяин!

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Alex3453455 The Councilor
July 13, 2015 19:42:57

DarMior
Ярость? Да ты малец видимо не знаешь что это. И я же тебе скомандовал не гавкать, щенок.

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Alex3453455 The Councilor
July 13, 2015 20:24:37

DarMior
Оправдываться, это ты всегда оправдываешься, а потом скулишь как щенок. И о моде начал говорить ты а не я, я сказал о художнике и его вкусе, но ты очень глупенькая псинка, начал приплетать сюда рашен ТВ. Видимо именно ты смотришь такие вещи и разбираешься в сумочках. Могу позвать женщину к пк, можешь обсудить с ней шмотки.

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Alex3453455 The Councilor
July 13, 2015 20:36:35

DarMior
Почитав наш диалог она сказала мне оставить мальчика в покое и погулять с собакой. Пожалуй она права.
А вот по таким словам "И вот даже сразу понятно, кто у вас в семье мужик и решение принимает, а кто покупает сумочки." сразу ясно что у тебя нет не девушки ни детей ни семьи, ну что же надеюсь когда нибудь тебе повезёт малец.

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Mirash_ge The Dragon
July 14, 2015 12:55:06

)) я позвала к монитору кошку , и почитав некоторые диалоги , она оч удивилась ))) , рога ей тож не понравились )

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Qvikh The Mysterious
July 13, 2015 17:18:46

Hey, I want them as avatars! ;)

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Antalyan The Ancient
July 14, 2015 10:29:39

As regards heroes specializations, please, imagine the game situation.

You have only one city and enough gold. So, you want to increase your units growth. So, you will hire as many heroes as you can who increase your units growth. The result? You will have for example 6 heroes you don't need at all and you will never move with them and level up them. Does it make sense? In my opinion NO!

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White.Rider 
July 14, 2015 10:36:29

Excellent point! I have done that.

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blackadderDAAN The Furious
July 14, 2015 10:52:34

i thought there can be only one gouvernor for unit growth per city?
Besides.
You probably want multiple heroes anyway. 1/2 for scouting/main army. 2 for transfering units and collecting unit from unit production sites, resources mills etc. and at least 1 gouverner per city.

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RobvD84 The Mad
July 14, 2015 11:52:57

That's why i think having governors getting xp when thier governor skills get used will help greatly and also having an extra effect for adventure map/combat.

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blackadderDAAN The Furious
July 14, 2015 12:04:26

robv,

Yeah. governors will need quite a bit of perks for full potential.

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