Dear Councillors, I am sorry but I'm now off for today (for real this time) :)
Thank you for the interaction, it was particularly interesting and nice to be able to have this opportunity. We will definitively try to find a way to do this more regularly (but maybe not that late in our time zone ;)). I will come back to you regarding this topic when possible. See ya’ and take care!
thank you very much was great to have questions answered and to speak to the team for prob the first time ::) hope we can have more days like this cos it gives me a reason to log on the website and not just look at the psot 3 times a week :)
thanks buddy, looking forward to the next time
Thank you sir, see you soon. Good night :)
Dear Ubi-Nox , you are always positive! Thank you !
do not forget about avatars, and eyes Cyclops \ beautiful eyes need 1 \ )
Good night =)
It would be cool !
Demand Ubi to give you extra paycheck for the work you did here!
Dear Ubi-Nox will the game be mod-friendly?
I don't understand when you say you want to do game with fans, you create impossible conditions to do so.
Heroes 5.5 is the beta I'm going to play, the one made by people who could ACTUALLY help the Team.
We wanted with this website to open the discussion and collect feedback the most we could: votes, random skills, necro revamp etc. We understand your frustration but we are here in a preliminary step with this Shadow Council and even if all isn’t perfect nor fully customised, we hope we are heading in the right direction for the future to be able to open this even more.
It is important to keep in mind that such platform is something “different” for us and we have to keep fighting in order to improve all of this little by little. We are still enforcing doors from existing processes etc. and this is never as always at it seems to make things changes.
// On a personal side, I thank you for this link Galaad :)
Nothing can beat H5 :) H.5.5. This is Homm!
UBI, just look at the Witch Hut solution in H5.5. and your argumetns not to implement it fail.
Speaking of features inmtroduced in this mod - will there be a possibility to set alliances between players manually, lie it used to be in Heroes VI?
Wow... Ubi team surprises me in a good way tonight. I hope it's not temporary so we could come back to SC once.
Remember that the "Community" section still needs to be opened. ;)
@Pawek1308, it doesn't matter (it matters actually), I'm visiting SC rarely and If I see good changes, I think they deserve to be noticed. I've never tried to be a pure critic. Good attitude should be appreciated more than bad one should be bashed.
P.S. Even regarding the fact that Ubi-Nox are using his off-work, private time. So that's an appreciation more for him then to Ubisoft in general lol.
Sadly, random skills pale by comparison to the synergies brought by the HV skill wheel.
I’m trying to be here from time to time after office but maybe we could think of an official "Rendez-vous" once in a while. I will also be your main contact during the beta so if the need is rising we will think about this quickly.
Great to see open dialogue with the community. First time form me.
>>Great to see open dialogue with the community. First time form me.
Same here. And that's the reason I'm commenting here tonight lol.
>> maybe we could think of an official "Rendez-vous" once in a while
Yes, that's exactly what we need (and SC in general) for proper functioning. And community section too ;)
I have to say Galaadle you post good stuff: the hota and now this. I haven't been interested in the heroes after I realised H6 was going to be a disaster and now discovering all of these is just brilliant. Good that the heroes community doesn't seem to accept the crap the all so mighty and wise game development - selling - alliances try to force feed us to buy. I have to get involved if they screw this one up too!
Thanks storm_sword, but actually there is more. I centered some stuff in the newcomers section of HC, is a sticky, go have a look. ;)
Wow H5.5 that actually looks quite nice. Lots of interesting stuff over there. So little is needed ... I really do not get modern gaming industry ...
Galaad : Thanks for the link !
Ubi-Nox : I also think it's the right direction, even if there can clearly be improvment like : classement vote when we vote between 3 possibility (equivalent of a 2 round vote in only one round to gain time), and of cours a true forum.
I had positive feeling from the twitch yesterday so I decided to give it a try and preordered the game after all. Now don´t get me wrong, I still don´t expect it to be the H5/H3 successor, but there is a chance it will be a good one. We did what we could and I believe all our complaints were heard, so there is no more point for me to complain about the bad decisions again and again. I will try to write my impressions from the game after I play it or make a video :p
dont throw stones on me please :D
You suprised me :)
Nope. In Soviet Ashan, rocks throw YOU! *summons earth elemental*
This is funny - most people here will pre-order - whatever they say.
game will be good, trust me. we will play multiplayer then yes? good good :P
Ooookay *throws a piano*
Just kidding, the twitch was fine but we can see that there is still a lot of issues.
I just hope they will be corrected and not reappear in the real game (for example H6 former townscreen)
I will pre-order just to play with you, then cancel if I don't like it :)
You like jokes :) Just as Galaad. I don't believe you :D :P
There was too many newcomers who preordered the game and I feared like they would say everything is ok or don´t give any feedback at all, so there must be someone who will critize the things :D No, seriously... I would probably buy it anyway after it´s out, so I did it already to make a better picture about the game after trying it. Maybe I will regret maybe not, we will see ^^
I fell once again. LOL.
Yeah, that's a good way to go about things. That's what happened when I preordered Destiny. Got sick of the beta really fast and cancelled my preorder shortly thereafter.
Cleglaw, we can, but I will play with random skills only :P
We are from the same country and we also preordered the same day.
And we both believe this game will be good, but not better than H5.
Any other connection? :D
:D yes, I like Sylvan :D
Yeah, we criticized the game the most :XD
Sylvan is the best. The best thing in this game.
RRick_ , With pleasure I will read your impressions )
We will see soon. I actually prefer Dungeon over Sylvan, but I am not satisfied with the Dungeon line-up - Troglodytes, Strider + I fear the dragons will be copy of H6 ones, so I´m looking foward to Sylvan more, especialy if the Bladedancers stay as cool as on the artwork
Mirash-, you will play ?
I'm mixed but optimistic about both with a preference to Sylvan.
I really hope they don't screw up Dungeon. Please, no flamboyant feathers on sneaky Assassins like last time...
autumn - necessarily 100 percent !
Dungeon has some creatures I love - Hydra, Medusa, Minotaur but I don´t expect much, otherwise I will be dissapointed. Assassins were good in H6, but only the nonupgraded. Hopefully it won´t be another Shades of Purple..
Mirash: What's the difference - September/May?
Pre-order now or never! This year will not bring anything new. :D
But are we sure about September ? We know what happened with H6 :D
I'm hoping either the Assassin or Stalker with have an H5-style cloak and dagger look. Really like that from the H5 Dungeon. That hope keeps me optimistic of the Core lineup with neutral curiosity about the Trogs.
Lel, cancel, cancel
Somehow I feel the Assassins will be female this time. I´m looking foward to the Stalker too, it was said they will have the one-hand crossbow again, I found that quite cool
antalyan & RRick - Do you know Russian?
@RRick: "Somehow I feel the Assassins will be female this time."
If that is so, 'youknowwho' is going ballistic. 2 females in the line-up? Yea, definately FQ.
Mirash- , they only things I can say - negavarim pa ruski, sorry :(
Marblethrone, what´s the problem with 2 females ? We have Harpy+Centaur in Stronghold and Drud+Dryad+Pixie in Sylvan.
@RRick: Personally I have no issues with female creatures in line-ups. I don't mind if there are two, three or none. But you may remember...'him'....you know. J-Emo. I already dread the day Dungeon is revealed and Assassins are indeed F. I wonder if he will awake from his slumber once Sylvan is revealed. It's gonna be bad weather, very, very bad weather.
He's blocked, so...
Ah, yea, I think he lost interest about this game already :D
He´s not, I saw him commenting in the Vampire and LIch redesign thread, but that was all
90% of his posts are deleted. That's why he left :)
He respawns every now and then, claiming that 'work' is keeping him away from here. Could be true, or he is aware of moderation and the fact that there is no going back to the old days of rant. Clones like MedusaF, ProudM haven't been seen either in a long time.
Good for us, at least this SC is kept clear of their antics.
To go back ontopic. I preordered for the game, obviously, but I just want those items too. And by want, I really mean WANT :P. And if there are lessons to be learned, I gladly sit in the front row to be first to hear, process, and understand, to grow wiser for future events.
Well, I saw him coming back, too, with his post being deleted right away. Coming back to the topic, I may pre-order, too.
In my country it's only 30 Euros.
On Uplay it's like 45 Euros.
Will it be good, or just average? We shall see.
Maybe we believe this game will be good a bit cause we want to believe it?
I hope so they will not disappoint us.
Ubi took your money
Yet you still all unhappy
Ubi doesn't give a crap
You felt into the trap
Once again epic fail
What to say there's no grail
they're just not all obelisks visited xD
Obelisks they can't find
Otherwise they would mind
But they need more cash
So delay to milk more
So delay to milk more
All is left to do is bash
"The game was rigged... from the start."
Well, I don't know if what was to be expected when you had to pre-order first to play beta... there might've been a tiny spark of hope Ubi may at least present beta in a nice way.
This has ruined their reputation a bit, I guess. People may wait, but they can't find their own code. And no, leaving just a lazy link is not the way to give feedback to customers.
I am worried that they have no reputation to lose left.
Hello all, it seems that for some of you the game is already available in your game library. Download is not yet available so you might receive an error message when trying to do so. We are aware of the huge benefits of pre-load feature but unfortunately aren’t in the position to enable it for this beta. Sorry for the inconvenience. ---- Official beta start is at 6pm CEST (GMT+1) (in 6 hours).
Thanks for clarifying that, Ubi-Nox! I was getting confused because the game wasn't in my library yet, but others saw it.
I guess it is fair, it is better to protect the best interests of the game, than to offer more than you are able to the community, since this is just a beta game there is no point in early download, but I hope when the game will be released in september you will not do this to us again.
I think a countdown clock would be nice!
Ура!!! Ура!!! Ура!!! У меня тоже появилась. И Ура что не надо ничего вводить!!
Не по теме. На евровидении победила песня под названием "Heroes". Это - скрытая реклама, товарищи!
интьиги интъиги .....
Теперь понятно откуда 2000 ))) деньги пошли на подкуп судей евровиденья !
В прошлом году судей евровидения подкупал лично Ле Бретон, наверное.
- ...Он лично, с тарантулом на плече ждал за кулисами )))
Если честно, мое мнение, что сильнее итальянце, никого там не было, в том числе и Гагарина...
Btw, you all do realise that when you pre order the game you have already surrendered your money to the retailer, who maybe forward them to the publisher and game house (or may have bought their stock items before hand). In any case, the game company don't have to listen to your opinions any more as they have the money from that single game object already. It's better to not to pre order and keep whining because they still have to convince me to buy the game and make more profit.
I was convinced the moment it was announced. Of all the games I used to have, Heroes is the one I kept. The rest has been uninstalled over time, except one (which is also an old game, but has never seized to be fun and still has an active community).
I've re-installed them. Many Heroes, many adventure games, few football ones, some platform games (the 2d where u control a character in a platform world, like super mario u know), some puzzle (tetris is one king kong), c&c...
"Heroes is the one I kept". By that I mean, all the games in the franchise, starting with 3. Those, and the Other One, are the games I have on my pc. I could re-install things like Empire Earth III and Battlefield 1942, but I don't really feel like it. Heroes offers enough, as does the Other One. I have no doubt H7 is going to be a most worthy part of that. Doesn't have to be the best, but it'll be worthy nontheless.
...and reloaded... on Amiga and Commodore... and was it Atari, can't remember the too well anymore. Rambo was a very good one on some machine and few fighting games. Oh, I could ad Mortal Kombat to the list :D and Tekkens are really good for showing who's the boss on the play stations
Couldn't have said it any better than Marble throne did. Heroes is now and always been the one(s) I've kept. It was never a question for me whether I'd buy it. I've participated and will continue to do so because I both love the series and know it could always be better.
And I'm glad H3 still works on Windows 8. Some other games I used to play a lot, like Empire Earth I, don't work anymore. I would never part with that game, hoping one day I can get a cheap second-hand old PC that can stil support it. I still have self-made maps I was, and still am, always proud of, so there is a touch of sentiment. I've never had many games to begin with, but Heroes has basically always been there.
Heroes is one of my favorite series too. Only a fraction of games are played 10+ years after their release and the H2 and H3 are still played, and H5 will be. I doubt H7 will be from what I've seen.
Talking about games in general having played computer games since 80's I have to say that contemporary games lack in the game play and what they have to offer as an game play experience. Plenty of good graphics yes but not nearly as fun or addictive as late 80's whole of 90's early 00's.
I haven't really poured myself on the subject but I think the mobile games might represent much more value to money atm. They are in the same state as games where in the turn of 90's. They have to bee fun or...
they won't be played.
They had me when they said "Heroes 7"
I hope that you all continue to support Heroes so that the series lives on.
Plus the more support Heroes gets the more likely we are to have decent expansions. (unlike Heroes 6 that we got only 1 good one).
You.re totally wrong !
If the game will not have success in this stage, most probably won.t invest more money to improve it .
THE BETA OF 2
FOR HEROES 6 . 2
ACCESS TO 2 FACTIONS
FOR ONLY 2 WEEKS!!!!
f. you and your heroes 6.2 jokes.
So you are okay by having two factions instead of four? Or the fact it does not last longer?
and only 2 maps ;)
4 you = 2 faction x 2 map
So we can't even make jokes now?
yeah its not even funny anymore.
You're right, it's not very funny at all. At this point it's sad and pathetic. 2 factions is just shitty but 2 WEEKS rofl. And you defend them? Hahaha now that is a new joke. You have changed quite a bit since the announcement of his game clegaw.
@rick lol how did I forget that xD
cleglaw you should stop lecturing people, maybe you want to read again your own posts in the first pre-order article lol
Sympa les screenshots. Par contre, où sont des descriptions des compétences manquantes et surtout celle de la meta magie ?
"...А сегодня в завтрашний день не все смогут скачать. Вернее, скачать могут не только лишь все, мало кто может это делать..."
Витал Лэ Бретон.
Шутки шутками, а Микс то вроде качает. Хотя, даже скаченная бета, не дает гарантии, что в нее сразу же поиграть можно будет.
У Микса вечно все не как у людей.
Ну может реально новые карты пилят...Давайте будем оптимистами=)
Блин, может вам в скупе экранчик по транслировать, а то я уже скоро стартану)
Микс , выбрось и не выделяйся )))
Нам ключ от Юплея где беты лежат.
Миксер... Mieux à faire un grand stock de vazilin! :pardon:
Что то господин Psatkha, уже совсем без уважения, это случаем не библейский признак начала - конца?)))
Отлично описал :)
mixerysA, добавь в френды, есть вопрос на миллион ))
Fans of Heroes! Of Might and Magic! My friends. I see in your eyes the same excitement that has also taken hold of me. A day may come when our hopes fail, when we forsake the franchise and break all ties with its history, but it is not this day! An hour of hate and rage when the Time of Heroes comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we play! By all that you hold dear on this good site, I bid you to play, fans of the game.
I AM WITH YOU!!!!! FOR MIGHT!! AND MAGIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!!! ¤Rides into the horizon¤!
So give us a download distributive! :)
*swings mouse to enemies*
Проведем параллель, ну например с Ведьмаком 3
Ведьмак 3 - игра на разработку которой спущено гораздо больше ресурсов, ибо: разрабатывался собственный движек, разработка длилась 2 года, объем проделанной работы, просто в колоссальное количество раз больше, игра разрабатывается, для 3 платформ, против одной у нас. А в итоге игра стоит ровно в половину дешевле... тут просто, больше, даже говорить не о чем...
Смотрите продажи. Например в Steam'е:
Ведьмак 2: 3.000.000 копий
Герои 6: 500.000 копий
Окромя жадности Ubi тут нет какого - то другого объяснения.
Тут даже каких - то интересных и квестов с захватывающими, мистическими историями не предвидится.
Поэтому выбор в пользу Ведьмака 3 тут очевиден, хотя сравнивать данные игры не совсем корректно, жанры таки разные.
Можно конечно ссылаться на то, что всю работу выполнил "подрядчик" и ему нужно заплатить, но не забывайте о том, что они работали, уже на всем готовом, движек Unreal Engine 3.0 был приобретен компанией Ubisoft, еще при разработке, (если ее можно так назвать) - Flashback и "отбиваться"он начал еще с ее продаж, а разработка движка, это 50% от создания игры, так что студии платят, не так уж и много, если следовать логике, все остальное - алчность Юби...
Да, "Ведьмак" рассчитан на более широкую аудиторию, нежели "Герои". Только дело тут в том, как игру делали - глянь продажи 5-ки - на конец 2007 года только в странах бывшего СНГ и Прибалтике было продано более 1 млн. копий. Больше усердия и поменьше задирать цены - и хорошие отзывы подымут продажи.
3.000.000 / 500.000 = 6
1000 * 6 = 6000 <- планируемая цена героев
Где еще можно съэкономить? На разработке.
В итоге цена может быть снижена до 2000 :)
Проще говоря, такие завышенные цены - это в основном не за игру, а за бренд героев. Некоторые тут сами пишут, что возьмут, не смотря ни на что - какая будет цена или игра - потому что это герои. Я лично буду качать, и бетку (если получится), и игру.
Стоит учесть тот факт, что предзаказы всегда дороже, при релизе цены немного снижаются обычно. По крайней мере в Steam, да и сейчас там игра стоит немного дешевле чем в Uplay, по крайней мере в $, если пересчитать на рубли и сравнить с Uplay.
Nice screenshots !
What are spells and abilities for prime magic ?
What are spells and abilities for fire magic ?
What are spells and abilities for light magic ?
What are spells and abilities for water magic ?
What are abilities for meta-magic ?
shut up spam guy or girl
It is not a spam but a legitime request because they promise us to give articles (and not a lost comments...) on all skills and spells available in beta BEFORE beta. If they can not do in delay, how they hope finish game in time and without a lot of bugs ?
@GarionRahl I am sure they are pretty busy, especially to make the beta a succes when it starts on monday (doubt it will go that well). They also have some problems with beta keys that needs to be sorted out before monday. So be petient.
Hello GarionRahl, we announced we will share more of them before the beta and we did with articles containing several of them. I am doing my best to provide you content but it takes a lot of time. On Monday all information will be available directly on the game so I am sure you will able to discover them. Finally, there is no link between people in charge of this website and the game development.
@Ubi-Nox : thanks for yours answer and good luck for the end of your good work :)
I agree with the crazy person here(aka galaad).
Why on earth is it considered a privilege to hunt down bugs? Same thing happened with heroes 6.
Almost every company does that nowadays but that doesn't excuse ubisoft.
If you wanrt me to work for you AT LEAST give me FREE access to the demo anyways!!!
You want me to preorder and pay so i can work for you? Hahahahah!
I can bother myself with other games till this game comes out and gets PROPERLY PATCHED.
I m neither that desperate,nor stupid.
But a lot of others are...
Well, there are reasons why people play beta. Either to taste the game a bit and help devs out a bit.
why no stronghold in beta btw?
Because the Catapult orcs will be replaced.
I think they still might be finalizing a few details. They haven't revealed their warfare units, so I imagine those are still underway.
so what, they could use old models lol, hey, there is buggy dancing djinns on battlefield anyway lol
"Throw out the old models for Necropolis and give us new ones, you lazy devs!"
"Throw in the old models for Stronghold so we can play them in the beta, you lazy devs!"
Make up your mind! :P
Who you asked this question to?
no offense but you clearly have comprehension problems: having placeholders in beta is OK, not in final game.
I know what you meant. I was just making a joke. :P
oh ok, again, no offense but, not so obvious coming from you lol
Your question is very important to us. Please stay on the line.
well yeah Idk I mean, when I played pre-alpha I could play stronghold, but now is missing from beta? wtf right lol
"We are looking forward sharing our passion with you all on Monday!" forgot to add for your money, guys.
Nah, I doubt they'll share their money with us.
yep, because I've heard rumors you can access beta without pre-ordering the game lol
That's a little bit unfair... Also on this page there are many who work very hard to realize the game! Not everybody sees only on the money...
But Ubi makes it look like it. Why would on the world would I have to pay pre-order to pay beta?
Rather, we share money with them. Donate to UBi for beta test.
Where did you read about the open beta?
selling a beta key would already be bad enough, but forcing the pre-order of the game?
I can't believe you guys are falling for that, also this is nowhere close of a beta, is a bugged carcass with broken features, whatever they said on twitch lol
EnergyW, It is not just beta, It is very restricted beta.
B_WE, In this world, a lot unfairness. I guess, that selling of restricted beta is unfairness too.
I doubt that the majority of the developers stand behind this politics... Under normal circumstances, people which give feedback should get money -> and not the other way!!
Because I will not get any money, I will wait... And I have time... Maybe in november I will buy hopefully a nearly bug-free great computer-game... I am looking forward!
I don't know about what developers think about that, but this is a fact: if you want to play beta, you have to pay for it, and not only for the key, but for the whole game.
Supplement: Also my employer is doing things that I myself do not always appreciate...
and if you give money to the employer what will the employer think? that he made the right decision.
New business. Еmployer will hire you to get money from you. Good job