Heroes VI made two big mistakes when initially released: No Academy, no Dungeon. They tried to fix that in the expansion, but too little, too late. This one could start out with both. Demons are boring and unmemorable. Dungeon has minotaurs, hydras, and DRAGONS! Bring back the old Titan/Dragon rivalry.
I like inferno but i like to main dungeon, sorry Urgash.
C'on my friend, change your vote to INFERNO!!
Wow this vote is open for 28 days! I'm curious to see how it will turn out.
VOTE FOR A NEW RACE. WE ALREADY HAVE ELVES!!
VOTE FOR FIREY DESTRUCTION UPON YOUR ENEMIES!
MAY URGASH LIGHT MY FIRE!! ok that came out wrong!!
i know its a strategy but you should really provide some information+concept art to a better voting experience. otherwise people gonna vote with what they seen from the previous heroes.
fortress lost because of that.
proper voting seems more important to me then keeping shadow council fresh.
I am in full agreement with Cleglaw I hope when it comes to the time they release more information like they normally do they throw in some art and videos of the factions.
As we did for previous faction vote, we will provide in the following days more information about their warfare and culture. Having a one month votes permits you to influence other councillors & be sure that everybody have the opportunity to be part of this very important decision for the game.
Okay thanks for the information I will do my best the sway as many people to Urgash. :)
At least open voting only on the last update. Although most of the councilors will see every update, some will just vote and leave in very first step leading to a possible unrealistic result.
I wanted Sanctuary. =/ Oh well I hope we get it in expansion later on.
Yes, Sanctuary and Fortress in first expansion. Then the looser of this poll in second expansion.
Dungeon COULD be really interesting. I say "could" because the last dungeon was... meh... purple.
BUT I expect a better one this time.
Inferno COULD NOT be an interesting castle. Here you have little demon, little demon with flames. Medium demon. Medium demon with flames. Great demon. Greater demon. Ultra great demon. WOOOOO interesting.
Terrible points. Saying a faction will suck because of their color ? Did you not see HoMM6 Inferno ? Much more monstrous. Besides, only roles matter, shouldnt care so much what they look like. I'm sure we'd all prefer 6 identical units with different stats and abilities than 6 various units that are all the same.
"Here you have little demon, little demon with flames. Medium demon. Medium demon with flames. Great demon. Greater demon. Ultra great demon. WOOOOO interesting"
These arguments are from a very smart man. xD APPLAUSE!
You forgot Sexy succubi. Why are Dark Elves always forgetting about the sexy succubi?
Oh, and the fallen angels too (after all, Sarah must not be the only one)
Dungeon is classical heroes race. The was in heroes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6!
*They was in all paths of Heroes!
Dear developers! I suggest that you bring into play both factions and Inferno and Dungeon! In this case, remove Sylvan. Nobody wants to deer! Thank you for your attention!
Уважаемые разработчики! Я предлагаю вам ввести в игру обе фракции и Инферно, и Подземелье! При этом уберите Sylvan. Олени никому не нужны! Спасибо за внимание!
Ах да, вы же свято верите, что те 45% людей голосовало от балды и по приколу. А за первые два варианта серьёзно и целенаправленно. Ну что я могу сказать, разработчики всё равно этого не сделают (чему я очень рад).
Honestly, the sylvan right now makes no sense, specially when you consider that druids use deers as helmets and will be fighting next to more deers...
Not to mention the deer unit, instead of getting an upgrade, gets a sex change.,, that's a bit surrealistic considering the units are supposed to be the same but with some training.
Actually, I prefer the deer to an Unicorn...
If no one wants deer, then way fury won?You don't know what you're sayin!
Ты думаешь из-за одного человека они поменяют свой голос ? Лол))) Хоть олени мне и не нравятся , но ЛЭ в целом одна из моих любимых фракций , так что не неси бред , что ЛЭ надо снести а поставить проигравшую расу.
Było trzeba głosować na Fortece niż na głupi Sylvan !!!
DarMior, DarkIntens. Думаю, что недовольных лайнапом лесного союза как раз-таки 55%, ах да, ещё посчитайте тех, кто хотел гномов, то есть число недовольных на самом деле намного больше.
I love both these factions but would choose Sylvan over them any day because they weren't in the last game, are a long running faction and will be a great palette cleanser from some of the other factions.
You want to cancel a faction over 1 unit? Also the Twilight stag is awesome, in no way inferior to centaurs of any other unit of that type. A great new unit for a new MMH game.
If you want to keep playing the same game again you are welcome to play the old games.
с DLC добавят,вангую
вот и пусть ваших гомоэльфов и добавляют в длс
Speak for yourself. I want Sylvan and Deer! Would be nice to have unicorns, buto too bad...
Прям мои мысли читаешь -убрать на фиг лесн эльфов \ они и так уже жертвы \ и ТЭ и демонов нам !!!!
Тимур, я сам за баланс , но время уже прошло. Не сильно расстраивает олень , больше выбор чемпа между Энтом и Драконом. Я к тому , что уже всё решено , и менять сильван на другую фракцию не будут.
" If no one wants deer, then way fury won?You don't know what you're sayin! "
Because it was a package deal?
"In this case, remove Sylvan."
No. Remove Stronghold. Why have two demon factions? :) If you put Stronghold up against... Sylvan, Fortress, Dungeon or Inferno, it would lose by a landslide. Sylvan is also pretty distinctive. No need to remove it.
DarkIntens, согласен с вами, выбор чемпионов у лесных очень убог. Тоже расстроило. Да и пикси с дриадами в ядре - чушь полная.
Hydra making a return into dungeon as a champion! That would be so badass, imagine how cool it could look on the battlefield. Dungeon has so many great iconic creatures that can appear in the lineup! Inferno doesn't have anything on that scale.
How do you know about hydra?
*sigh*... there we go again. i dont want to do this again. noone said such thing, he is making this up. scroll down friend, we had a "little" conversation with Sklyarsans before. theres no such thing as hydra champions, devs are not giving any info yet.
Eh, Wouldn't it be better if Hydra would return in DLC? Also, why do both old creatures a champion? We need a refreshment, and only Inferno now can give it to us.
it makes most sense, Hydra is part of dungeon in Ashan, with 2 champion units it would be a perfect solution, not to mention black dragon and hydra have both been champions in the same faction before in H4
There will be 3 different champions to choose from probably, just like in Sylvan line up poll
Wait... You wanna say that hydra is better than nude-demonic-girl-with-wings-and-propably-whip?
@Cleglaw : doesn't take genius to deduce it. Would be as odd as if Pit Lord is missing from Inferno.
Hydra for the dungeon is like what treant is for Sylvan its an important part of the faction
Thats very odd to compare with Pit Lords.
-Hydra was only in H5 dungeon, and it was an elite. There are no hydra in H6.
-Pit Lords are in H5 and H6, and they were champions already in H6.
And to mention, hydra was a crature in swamp town(fortress of H3). Which have no connection with dungeon at all.
However it's not like Hydra was always in Dungeon, like in Heroes 3 and I think Heroes 6...
there was no Hydra in h6 because you could only have 1 champ and it wouldnt make sense if it was elite but became champion in h6 considering not that much time passed between games
Popcioslav ----> emmm ? why only Inferno can give us refreshment ? Dungeon can give us refreshment to so stop talking that sh it -.-
not to mention the expansion was rushed and they probably didn't bother animating it and rather reused lamasu model for manticore, H7 has a chance to do it right!!!
chill out and vote for boobies like a men ! -.-
@Cleglaw : Hydra was in H3 Fortress all right.
Was also in H2 Dungeon.
I like hydra very much, very iconic unit indeed. If there will be no swamp faction then dungeon is place where it should be.
@Vaniel213 You purrrv : p There will be naked whip-lashing babes in Dungeon too. Only they won't be succubi, they will be delicious dark elf dominatrixes.
" chill out and vote for boobies like a men ! -.- "
One living in the basement, maybe. Don't need to see boobs all the time, and besides, I prefer looking at sexy men. ;) Inferno has neither, barring the Succubus, who I hope will resemble V's. A pretty but frightening unit.
Good idea Travis.
Vote for the Dungeon. Vote for the Black Dragons and Minotaurs!
- And Manticors))
+1 for Manticore
Heroes without Inferno? Vote for fire please !!!
yes yes yes for the Demon !!! real men vote for the Demons!
INFERNO ❤ Зло бессмертно !!!
Right here with you mate. :)
Dear Developers from UBISOFT please listen to my ideas:
-make in Heroes 7 3D Castles like u made them in Heroes 5, this was one of the best and the most beautiful things in whole Heroes Saga, I was spending much time in Castles just to enjoy the views of this beautiful places
-add the rest sub-factions to all main factions PLEASE ! not now but in some expansion or just in DLC, all fans would be happy to see their sub-factions in H7,that lost the vote here,
especially fans of Sylvan castle..
I know that You can make 3 sub-factions to all main factions, we, fans can help You in this project and we will help. Make this game with sub-factions like it was in Command & Conquer 3 Kane's Wrath ! :) If You make in this Heroes all main factions we could have then not 9 factions but 27 factions !
-make extra larga maps in heroes 7! :) like in heroes 3, i was always loving extra larga mpas, with many creatures to kill, castles, mines and other things :)
Who agree with me give the "Up Vote" !!
I was also always dreaming of 8 units to have in the army and to recruit them in castle instead of 7 units ;/ I thought Heroes will finally bring this to live, but I sadly heard that we will have to choose between 2 champions units ;/ So Dear Developers I beg You put the 8 units in the all factions that we could have in one army and one castle to recruit, this would be one of the best things in Heroes Saga, like 3D Castles in Heroes 5.
I beg You Developers make this real !
I agree! The castles in heroes 5 are what made me want to continue playing! They were all amazing. I did not enjoy heroes 6 and one of the main reason was because of the boring castles. Also the castle building systems in heroes 5 was great, heroes 6 had a confusing and boring system.
I like this idea with choosing a champion, I think 8 places to our army is too much. I agree- they should make 3D castles. In my estimation, we can have 10 nations, these, from which we can choose avatar + swamp (citadel) from Heroes III.
3D castles are redundant. If you are spending more than 30 seconds in your castle every turn, you are doing something wrong.
About the sub-factions, they don't have the budget for that. It's the same reason that we will have only 6 factions on launch. Ubisoft are limiting Limbic's budget due to Heroes 6 failure.
I like the idea of sub-factions, in fact. I talk about it as well in one of the Haven units post. Having Sub-Faction means that what we had voted before, will have a chance to come back.
Example of Haven, which is currently about the Wolf Duchy. Sub-Faction can make it Wolf Duchy, Griffin Duchy and one other Duchy. It also means more units and the Beloved Griffin will come back again as a unit.
I think that UBI is more concerned about upvoted arguments and i've seen someone with 29 upvote (one of the best) showing one of the best line-up for dungeon (really good one)! But inferno doesn't have one ! So let me try
Core unit :
-A new fast creature
Elite unit :
-A new flying creature
Champion Unit :
It brings us 2 new creatures and keep the most well known and appreciate inferno creature (i think)
What do u think guys ?!
another fast unit? imps are usually pretty fast, and cerberus most definitely are fast ones!
And what about nightmares?
And some new champion would be better
Efreet Succubus and Nightmare perhaps?
pretty good it has window for innovation while keeping the iconic creatures as well. I like it.
BUT...You could make 3 different line ups perhaps?
please include a rider unit there my friend!
for core as you suggested?
I miss Efreets! I hope they will be back if inferno wins.
In my opinion Pit Lord is too similiar with Devil. But it's also hard for me to imagine alternative and good candidate for a champion.
up-voted, but I really doubt ubi cares what you say here... sylvan/fortress vote had a lot of people asking for unicorn and phoenix... they ended up in their own line-ups though both were very iconic and missed units so I don't think they really care that much as to what we hope here. They'll make the line-ups themselves and offer those and we just gotta pick the best of the worst I'm afraid.
I like the idea of a rider for Inferno ! If i'm not mistaken, they never really had one ! good point :)
I think inferno heores will ride them just like in the hmm4 ^^?! (about nightmares)
I think it's better to try now then never, don't u think ?! (i do hope they are looking at the upvoted vote 'cause it will make more sense, they don't have the time to read every "go dungeon" or "go inferno" that appears every 2min)
Another rider suggestion,
an alternate suggetion, this one for elite, i like them very much (:
In H4 nightmares were separate units!
Arch-Devil suggestion, put some wings and a reaping weapon in it;
Another Arch-Devil suggestion: i liked wings +weapon + dark skin.
да по любому кого-нибудь нового поставят,если инферно выберут!а пока надеюсь,что сейчас выбираем союзника Ивана и инферно всеже будет присутствовать в игре!!!жалко если нет!!!
Yes actually both, they were riding them and using them as 3rd level creature. But we have only 8 choices, and personally if i have a choice between an efreet or a burning unicorn (like in h4) i'd rather take the magnificent efreet ^^ ! But they sure will appear in one of the three line-up if inferno wins of course :)
Народ возмущался, что изумрудных воителей предлагали ввести, тк рыцари типа только для Хэвена, а теперь народ в Инферно всадников пихает. Вот уж кому они точно не нужны, если не делать инферно очередной людской расой.
No matter what I have chosen I don't think inferno is gonna win
And me personally, always went for nightmares than Efreet, their special ability was very useful!
core units arent the best cause you wont have shooters until elites, so idk about that, but overall its pretty good :)
Remember everyone: we can all change our vote when Ubi will release the sneak peeks of each factions, so don't forget to check back, especially if you have chosen a faction for a particular unit that isn't planned
To Inferno voters: Recruit your friends, ALL OF THEM! For Urgash, For Kiril, For Agrael, For Succubi!
To Dungeon voters: Just a reminder that the Dark Elf leader Raelagh joins Inferno, becoming Agrael. If your own leader joins the forces of Urgash, you should consider doing the same.
nice comment ) imho quite persuasive
Brevity price talent
Yes the power of corruption is very strong, one day everyone will be one of us !!
Good one !
Thank god we got rid of Realag now we can get a great new character with a great story.
hahahahaha, Raelag does join Infernal ranks, but Dungeon is not devastated by that. And in the end Agrael manages to break free of Infernal Bonds and come back to what he truly was, showing us that the seduction of Urgash is not as strong as one believes ;)
Hey Articun, I'm trying to corrupt people here and I'd like it very much if you kept this information to yourself ;)
Nicely done though, you saw right through my deception... but I still have a point I guess?