Seriously, EARTH'S BALANCE is the most powerful option.
3 entangling units among your core+elite units. Half of them can entangle!! And then you got 2 shooters, 1 strike and return unit and a retaliation cancelling unit. Enemy melees won't know what's happening!!
Fury FORCES YOU to ignore Dragons so you can optimize your Dryads. THAT'S HORRIBLE GAME DESIGN. Only 1 entangling unit, Bladedancer as elite (WTF??) and 2 nature spirits as core (Sanctuary 2.0).
Stop voting Fury!! It's absolute crap!
not at all. Bladedancer deserves a solid spot in elite rather than core. I am looking forward to see their huge dps dealing. Could be one of the most offensive elite unit in entire game.
What do u refer to 2 nature spirit? Pixie isnt a spirit, i dont like pixie but still its completely different than dryad if thats what ure worried about. And dryad + treant is a very good combo. Otherwise everyone would pick dragon, now they give you flexibility to pick whichever u feel fit
Fortress was the most powerful option. You could skip Dryads and focus on other units and then get dragon. Rampant baseless speculation followed by, what, a units tier and too much fey? How does that matter at all? I thought Elves were supposed to be logical, but i guess they really are just vain ;o
I agreed ;) EARTH'S PERFECT BALANCE is the best option :))
Fury or strength isn't crap because of Dryads + Treants. Think about it, a forest faction where the forest itself fights and protects its creatures.
Trees are the oldest, tallest and wisest creatures in the realm. In fact Trees give us mother f*cking oxygen and hows your phoenix gona keep its blazing fire going without oxygen? dumbass. Anyway it ain't easy being a Treant they get lonely too and that's why they need Dryads, the only creature who actually gives back to the life bringing forest
Saying what is more or less powerful now is just PURE SPECULATION now. We should decide by what creatures fit the nature theme. This magical word "balance" might betray you, all faction will have its pros and cons, strengths and weaknesses.
Imo, the Fury group is the most coherent with the lore and with the Sylvan theme.
If you put it that way, Kindof Makes Un Balanced for Rest of the Game, Can You Imagine when you are against SYLVAN, You would be Slaughtered.
FURY provides better Game Balance, and Less Total Control by 1 Faction.
I so aggree with you bro,
lol,you wish we would leave the pheonixes burn Irollan.
Stop voting Fury please.
The "I don't like Phoenix in forest" argument is invalid because Phoenix will be an OPTIONAL Champion and Fury strategy side is HORRIBLE!!
Vote EARTH'S PERFECT BALANCE it's by faaaaaaaaaaar the best strategy and the most important part is that you can play Dragons, as opposed to Strength and Fury where you're almost FORCED to ignore Dragons so Dryads aren't junt...
You like Treants? Balance can have both Treants and Dragons while ignoring Phoenix!!
Invalid/lame arguments win polls, which i can see is what you're doing by telling people what the best strategy is based on a unit line up and no actual information about anything. Might as well tell people which champion is stronger 1v1 too.
Aren't the ppl who are voting for Strenght and Fury doing the same. This is the first time in a long time i see somebody doing this for Balance.
guys get over yourselves, phoenix just sucks, its not a sylvan creature at all, its just against the nature of this faction. Its like lets put imp into haven.
Plus we got arcane bird in academy, dont need more birds. Treant certainly deserve a shot being champion, i voted 3rd just for bladedancers, but i prefer both 1 and 3 way over 2. Screw phoenix
TOTALLY agree, phoenix is a neutral creature whatsoever... If you want the phoenix to be part of a faction, then re-think the conflux and put it there as a champion, but they certainly have nothing to do with Sylvan
My thoughts exactly. Sylanna's Fury is the most consistent with the current lore. And Treants deserve to be a champion.
Or you could get over yourself as only a true original Heroes player would understand why Phoenix's belong BACK in the nature faction. Who cares how many birds there are. With Earth's perfect balance all Heroes 1 & 2 fans will get their beloved nature champion phoenix unit back and Heroes 3 & 5 fans get their champion green/gold dragon unit back. As the title says.. Perfect!
Phoenix belongs to Elves since H1, smartass
3 through 6 phoenix became a neutral unit and dragons took its place... and it should remain as is!!!
Sylvan and Sorceress are not the same people! Its diffrent universe phoenix should stay as neutral unit!
Nature in H4 had Phoenixs too.
Stop with this unicorns realy ! If you wanna play unicorns just because pure nostalgia go and play heroes 3 or 5.We simply dont need old unit with better graphick and noting new as design.I bet it his special skill will be MR thats not even new.Ubi say that Phoenix is flyer and have supporting abilities its way more intersting and can fit to difrend strategy.If we have 2 non-flyers champions we cant shut down enemy units or archers.And please ubi make Hunters elite units we need strong arhcers !
unicorn are the only creature who was in ALL Forest of Heroes 1 -> 5
Unicorn MUST be with Sylvan, No alternative
just change deer into unicorn ！
Phoenix is fire! Elves like the Sylanna, the Goddess Dragon of EARTH!
..Arkath is the Dragon God of Fire. Dont phoenix in Sylvan.. Please! :/
In keeping with the games' lore - phoenix = fire and wind. This not only doesn't belong with the elves, but as an element of wind, it DEFIES the elves' deity! If anything, the phoenix should be a dwarven unit or a human unit - the elves just do not need it any more. I would love to see the treant as a champion unit - it's even better than the green dragon in terms of symbolising Sylanna. What I would love to see though is like an earthen dragon or made up of boulders - THAT would be fantastic :D
Im actually replaying H1 atm & Id forgotten the sheer joy of going into battle as the nature faction with your phoenixs flying across & demolishing enemy champions while ur elves & druids took out the enemy support units from afar. The thought of getting to do this again in a new heroes game against different enemies is exciting! In H1 unicorns made a great 'tank' unit defending your range units so while Ill miss them a lot I also love Trents from H3-5 so Im happy to see them take over the role.
Please devs do not take this voting as final. All 3 choices are missing something. I vote for unicorn + phoenix + no snake + sylanna play style. Please design voting more carefully, because this kind of voting create swarm of unnecessary comments. Will someone from you actually read them all? I really doubt that.
Dwarves were also with the elves in H1, my little genius. But that was Sorceress, it was more like a "fairy" faction.
I wanted to try this "so called cheating" so I made a bunch of accounts and kept voting, I won't say which one, but after about 20 it did raise the percent. UBISOFT how is this possible!! This is completely absurd and needs to be fixed. All I had to do was hit create account, punch in an email like "email@example.com" password: asdfasdg username: afgasdfasdg and hurry and click a date of birth and hit create and bam new account. You can do it extremely fast. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED!!!
EVERYONE SPAM YOUR FACTION VOTE UNTIL UBISOFT DOES SOMETHIGN ABOUT IT!!!!!
another fake account I made
Well shit. :/
What you vote for? :P
its not for fury i'll tell you that much, and yes this is another fake account I made
тогда нет смысла голосовать. Очень печально ((
then there is no sense to vote. Very sadly ((
i'm curious how much will he gain from this kind of voting ;) even drwarf when tried this only gain maybe 1% ;p
I wonder if they are still going to pretend everething is under control :P
Try beating another percent. Then calculate the difference between how much you voted for the first % and how many votes you made in between the second %.
Because at first, even 1 vote favoring one side can push the tide for one extra %, but the second % is impossible.
Mathematically, in 100.000 votes, you need almost 2000 votes to change 1 percent to another. Trust me, I made some calculations.
It's sad... and nearly funny at the time. The vote has to be cancelled.
I'll be up all night until my faction is in the lead haha or until UBISOFT shuts this thing down
I believe you were just lucky, Fury achieved 43% just 15 minutes ago. It's probable that 10 votes might turn that back.
But you won't be able to change any percent further, you can vote all you want.
i'm trying to get some other buddies to do it with me all night, if all 6 of us and be doing it for a few hours it should make a difference, you guys should do it too
One person might not change much, but when there's a lot of cheaters it changes everything.
Если это так, пусть разработчики отменяют голосование и сами выбирают састав фракции. Я очень хочу чтобы были эльфы, но если игроки такие нечестные тогда пусть будут гномы. (( Может в другой раз люди задумаются и будут вести себя честно.
If this is so, let developers cancel vote and select composition of fraction. I very much want that there were elves but if so dishonest players then let are gnomes. ((Can another time people will reflect and will honestly behave.
i will not bother doing it i just wanna see your result if this will realy matter
I'm not going to cheat...
Or you should just get class IP banned and problem solved.
ITS BEEN CHEATING SINCE DAY 1, IM NOT DOING IT TO WIN I'M DOING IT SO UBISOFT ANNOUNCES SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AND CANCELLING THE VOTE ughh sorry about all caps :s
They can't ban them all. He confessed he's cheating, but it was an experiment.
They should give you order rather than ban. :P
Ubisoft will probably cancel the vote, and bring the dwarves back.
even if this is an experiment its still again rules if they ban him we woud get info that there is done something to prevent this situations
Dwarves? Yeah, sure. They should just give as all the units :D
He proved that cheating is possible. Even if they banned him, there still would be others.
ok possibly but if they take action in this matter then maybe they already taken action in previous attemts i just wanna se whats thier reaction
If elves are really cheaters, then ubi will bring fortress. Sylvan can wait for h8.
As I said, they won't ban them all. Everyone can be a cheater and they already proved they can't do anything about this.
DmitryK2011, в топку игру с гномами... бррр... они уже запороли прошлую часть, не нужно повторять такую ошибку...
Да и с чего вы решили, что если будут гномы то не будет такого же балагана?
DmitryK2011, in a fire chamber game with gnomes... бррр... they already bungled last part, it isn't necessary to repeat such error...
And from what you decided, what if there will be gnomes that won't be the same buffoonery?
wqus, мне тоже не нравятся гномы, а эльфы наравне с людьми любимая фракция. А свой пост я написал дабы люди задумались, что собственный обман может ударить гораздо сильнее чем иногда ожидаешь.
wqus, too aren't pleasant to me gnomes, and elves on an equal basis with people favourite fraction. And I wrote the post that people reflected that own deception can strike much more strongly than sometimes you expect.
DmitryK2011, я с вами согласен! Я за честные выборы, а не за такой балаган как сейчас... глупо как-то выходит =( они нам доверились, а на деле получается... хрень
DmitryK2011, I agree with you! I for fair elections, instead of for such buffoonery as now... silly somehow quits = (they trusted in us, and in practice it turns out... crap
the thing it might be easier to check how many accout were created since voting started ,do they voted and last part if this number do significal damage the quesion is how severe creating account is
I wonder if they even give a shit about what's happening here...
Well, maybe the votes are just partially computed, and then deleted afterwards. That would explain some BIG lost of % from some lines.
They didn't wrote anything about deleting votes. Marzhin wrote they just ,,keep their eyes open". And it's bullshit.
первые 2 варианта подходят,Баланс куда поинтереснее ,но уж никак не 3 вариант с оленями )) ....в инете есть изображение этих эльфийских оленей (погуглите), они конечно качественно прорисованны и подойдут для героев Лесного союза для езды верхом,но уж никак не в армию эльфов...смешно даже и говорить про это....надеюсь будет выбран правильный вариант. ГОЛОСУЙТЕ ЗА БАЛАНС !!!
В третий вариант надо Санта-Клауса добавить, чтобы можно было на оленей упряжке гонять. Такое ощущение что за ярость голосуют специально ненавистники эльфов, чтобы сделать ушастых яростными насасовальщиками. Хотя мне почти без разницы, что там выберут. Я не фанат эльфов, но просто обидно если их ждет такая судьба.
Obvious framing is obvious.
Vote Fury honestly.
I can do that too.
And then Warcraft suddenly gets another percent....
He's just trolling you ppl. LoL
He's got 57 ,,up votes''. It clearly shows how corrupted this vote is. -.-
Wow, it doubled.
Ребята из Силы - присоединяйтесь к Балансу. Не дадим сделать из эльфов оленеводов!
Проголосовал за "Силу", но если она будет сильно отставать, то в последний день голосования проголосую за "Баланс", и другим "силовикам" советую)
Нет уж это лучше вы к нам.
Просто балансу надо добрать пару процентов, чтобы догнать Фури, а Силе - целую пропасть.
Народ, не ждите последнего дня - можете забыть или неожиданно не будет инета под рукой, или будет некогда или ещё чего-нибудь...
И ещё - переголосовывать лучше в любом случае, независимо от того, будет ли Баланс отставать или немного опрережать фури. Ведь строронники фури тоже будут переголосовывать.
People listen! Vote for THE STRENGTH OF THE FOREST !!! We don't need phoenix, because there is a phoenix in Academy, just blue one, why would we have 2 phoenixes in game??? This wouldn't be interesting, unicorns are classic! like master hunters! Let them be in game! vote for 1st one! There are root snake and emerald warrior as a new creatures, i think thats enogh! THE STRENGTH OF THE FOREST the best, please vote for it, it would be the best!!!
We have confirmation that the upgraded Proenix in Sylvan will be BLUE too :( . So please vote for Unicorns, vote for Strength of the Forest !!! :D
Thank you for that. I was about to cast my vote on balanced tactics and after reading your post I swapped to the other. Which in this case was Strength in the forest.
I voted for Strength of the Forest too, but I'm not a fan of Snakes at all... perhaps it would be best to have some kind of light armored elves with the same function...? I know this is details but it kinda pisses me off...
I agree. I voted fot this one. We don't need pixies, which are defiinetly bad or for sure pixies and dryads in the same army :P I like the first set without one thing. I don't really like choice between treants and dargons :/ We should have both of them in every game :)
adriancat11, you don't mind posting a link to spport your claim?
I dont know, the Snake unit sounds pretty cool. Its an animal, fits with the factions, its new and original. It has a slows and has a damage over time effect. Sounds Sylvan all around. To bad Fury doesn't have it.
It has the potential for really cool art, as well.
Яростные эльфы??? Ну и бред.
Два духа природы одновременно (феи и дриады) - это трешево. Про оленей уж молчу. Не надо превращать эльфийскую армию в клоунаду - нам в это играть потом.
Ребят, серьёзно - поддерживайте лучше Силу или Баланс.
Вы правы на 100%, согласен с вами. Сам голосовал за баланс. Если можете, поддержите меня, поставьте + моим комментариям, чтобы люди увидели.
А как тут плюс ставить?
Просто жмёте по рейтингу.
Феи вообще не обязательно являются духами природы если на то пошло. А дриады - это нимфы, покровительствущие деревьями. То что их сделали практически одним и тем же существом в 5- ке не означает, что так будет в 7 - ке. А чем олени не угодили в лесной фракции, в которой друиды и так носят головной убор в виде оленьей головы, вообще не ясно.
Взаимопомощь энтов и дриад выглядит криво. Чемпионы ведь альтернативны. Если построить драконов вместо энтов, эффективность дриад не будет задействована на 100%.
У Баланса название говорящее - он действительно выглядит сбалансированнее. Один из чемпионов - быстрый летун, другой - пеший, со средней скоростью, но мощной атакой по площади.
Полностью согласна. "Баланс" не зря балансом называется.
Соглашусь, что танцор и охотник слишком похожи. На концептах ещё можно углядеть разницу, но как это будет в игровом ракурсе? Два очень очень похожих эльфа, только с разным оружием.
БАЛАНС выглядит куда интереснее и разнообразнее.
I agree that blade dancer and hunter really similar too. In the picture some difference is visible, but how it will look in game perspective? Two very similar elves, differing only in that one has a bow, and the other has blades.
BALANCE looks more interesting.
И снова я прочитал бред. Это ты видишь разницу только в оружии. Припиши ИМХО.
And again, I read delirium. This you see the difference only in the weapons. It's only your IMHO
от безысходности уже причины и поводы из пальца высасываете? Позвольте о схожести, интересе и разнообразии судить другим самим для себя...
from a hopelessness already you fabricate the reasons and occasions? Allow to judge similarity, interest and a variety another for itself...
Phoenix is the symbol of regeneration and reborning, just like the nature itself. And its from the prime energy, not from fire, unlike people think. Perfectly fits with sylvan.
And it looks great!
Феникс является символом вечной жизни и перерождения. Как сама природа. Так что, он прекрасно подходит эльфам.
И никакой он не огненный, как некоторые боятся, он состоит из первозданной энергии.
А ещё он очень здорово выглядит!
Феникс здорово выглядит... блин, я один не вижу имхо?
Yeah, Phoenix fits the same as Moon Doe:
1. Unupgraded they are both connected to the Moon.
2. Upgraded are both gold and glowing.
So if one of them don't fit Sylvan to you, then they both don't fit.
Люди, голосуйте за баланс.Лучше выбор между фениксом и драконом чем между энтом и драконом.Так как драконы и энты ходят.А фениксы летают. Нельзя оставлять лесной союз почти без летающих существ. Фениксы были у эльфов в героях 1-2 и 4.
People vote for the balance. It is better to choose between phoenix and a dragon than between ents and dragon. Since dragons and Ents go. A flying phoenixes.You can not leave the forest alliance with almost no flying creatures. Phoenixes were elves heroes 1-2 and 4
Phoenix doesnt belong to Sylvan, and world of asha is now different than heroes 1-2 and 4. They even changed the name to mmh. Ent makes much better sylvan champion than phoenix definitely
in h1 h2 and h4 the elves fraction didnt have the saem theme as it has now. They were nature or magical themed faction back then, now its forest themed. They had stuff like griffins tigers wolves dwarves etcetc back then too ^_°
Dear Limbic and Ubisoft. As you can see it is a tough choice that you make us to do. It is a heavy battle within community and we already divided into three camps.
Please, help us and provide us with artworks (or sketches at least) of all Sylvan creatures. It will help us to make a right choice! As for now the only source on which we can build our choice is our imagination. It's not right, cause overall appearance of army is very important and might be a key factor for making a decision.
There are only two camps ,those who vote for unicorns and those against them.
@Antonsky I'd say those who vote for Phoenix and those against them. Or "those who vote against snakes and those who don't really care about snakes" :)
WHO WANTS A FIERY BIRD IN A FOREST??WHO?
NO ONE! thats why i'm voting Fury, that and de deers of course
Fans of Heroes I, II and IV, that's who :P Also, Heroes III fans, probably.
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH SO TRUE
calling phoenix a "bird?" genius.
please stay away from RPG games, all around fansaty games.. not only games, movies aswell..
or i changed my mind, pls shut down your computer.