An article per day, that's quite a lot in comparison to what happened in previous weeks, it's almost like you are trying to cover something, I wonder what could be...
Oh, yeah! The skillwheel, we will never forget about it, not until you devs give us some answers.
Give Us Better Skillwheel!
PS: Please support the petition for a better skillwheel
rodaff, do you honestly think that even if they were going to come up with an amended skill wheel, they could conjure one up over the weekend?
Meanwhile, in the real world, it was pretty obvious before the event a couple of weeks ago, that there would be a great deal of new stuff following. Nothing has changed. No conspiracy.
I expect a simple statement like it happened with the Necropolis fiasco, something on the lines of "we heard your complains, we are evaluating the situation and we'll have more information in the future", it doesn't has to be something overly fancy, just a simple acknowledging of the current situation.
But so far, it's been a week since the skillwheel was revealed and the only thing we've gotten from the devs is complete silence.
An article a day keeps the skillwheel away.
Not from my mind ;)
I'm not as concerned about it as you are, but I won't oppose your work either ;).
As long as you don't turn it into a spam rage the likes of which we only saw during the Necro reveal (and Galaad on occasion) you have my permission.
I'd prefer to restrict the unrelated skillwheel comments to 1, maybe 2 per comment section. Obviously, spam as much as you want in the skillwheel or warcries article, but not in others.
In here, you're free to bring it up, but keep in mind that others want to talk about the news too.
I think it is already important to remember the devs on important issues... And the skill wheel is such an important issue... @rodaff: You have my full moral support!
Well, the way it is now is good - there are two posts bringing up the skillwheel in the best comments. That should be enough, I think.
im joining the flood party. copy/pasting my post in here too
Now all aces are pretty and human-like. orcs, vampires, re-made dungeon faction... thanks to you new generation, this is your doing with books like twilight. congratz, everything is almost same like each other. good job new generation.
_I'm signing because I agree with the proposals mentioned here.
So I hope this thing was posted here to give us something to talk about while the skill system is being fixed :3
The artwork's ok, but the spikes everywhere.... even behemoth has them lol
So far, the tactic goes on: Imani is a stunner!! Amazing!!!
But of course we remain vigilant and hope for much improvements in the skill wheel... (smile)
How do you think his skillwheel will looks like ?
*very subtile attempt to not forget the skillwheel theme*
Still...what's the need in spikes out of shoulders? Are the designers obsessed or something...?
No idea what's wrong with them... At least this time we didn't get some over-decorated ceremonial thing presented as weapon^^
Really the shoulder-pads are only thing in the model that bothers me, everything else looks quite good and natural IMO.
What you do not like shoulder pads with spikes?
Orcs is very suitable!
I don't get it either. maybe it's an order of Erwan or maybe a couple of designers really love spikes and think that spikes make things look "cool".
@ramborusina, nothing wrong aesthetically, but as usually - lack of logic. There are no animals which have boney spikes growing out from the muscles. Especially when it looks like mammal. So up to me those spikes are totally unnecessary and their absence won't make this creature less frightening.
Necromancer1981, why pads? They are just spikes growing out of shoulders. Or u mean that behemoths are wearing some armour? LOL
> There are no animals which have boney spikes growing out from the muscles. Especially when it looks like mammal. So up to me those spikes are totally unnecessary and their absence won't make this creature less frightening.
It was the most brilliant logical reasoning! :lol
I haven´t noticed the behemoth´s spikes but the ore you think of it the more phalic symbols you find... Some trauma inside the developers team? :P
it's true that the designers often exaggerate with spikes but this doesn't mean we should ban spikes in every creature, sometimes not everything has to have a logic, especially in fantasy (as long the creature isn't nonsensical of course)
@Sempai Ohh sorry thought you spoke of hero model(and her shoulder-pads). Was too tired and misread your text, my bad.
Yeah I agree the behemoth doesn't need the spikes. I dunno also about the hair being tied(kinda ruins the monstrous image there). Must say I'm a bit curious how they will explain the arctic look for desert creature(just saying they live in mountain doesn't really tell a whole lot).
>It was the most brilliant logical reasoning! :lol
Give me yours, retarded lol
The spikes aren't that bad! Only the helmet with the big horns on the helmet we see on the right side bothers me! Otherwise, that's a great work of art!!
@Iwanesosuro, can't get what u say. Rephrase it.
Maybe being white they disipate better the hot from the sun(if they had got black hair they will suffer a lot in the desert). Also the ancient behemoth in H3 had white hair. But most probably they will explain it as an analogy to when the hair turns grey as one gets old.
@B_WE , they don't bother me. I'm just asking why shall they be there? Spikes are everywhere. What's the need in overdesign? Behemoths in H3-H4 didn't have any of those spikes. What's the need for them now? That's just doesn't make sense.
The thing is, desert creatures in general don't really grow hair or it's short hair... That long hair would be hot as hell -.-
Spikes=phalic symbols. Spikes everywhere=someone in the development team may have an (unconscious)obsession with ... ehem, you know what I mean. (sorry but my english rusted a bit in those last months ;()
Yeah, having long hair is hot as hell and the sand doesn´t help(I know it very well in summer) but living in a desert, as soon as the sun dissapears from the sky the freezing temperatures make appearence making at that point useful the long hair. Despite of that the H3 behemoth hadn´t got short hair(shorter than H7 behemoth yes but...)
> this doesn't mean we should ban spikes in every creature, sometimes not everything has to have a logic, especially in fantasy (as long the creature isn't nonsensical of course)
I don't ban this. Just asking why? Because some times minimalism is a right choice. Well, I'm tired of spikes and spiders. How someone can't be? Behemoth is fine big creature. No need to create spikes out of his skin.
Iwanesosuro, thanx. Now I get it) welp, just spikes a bit overused. Even on this picture: both fem hero have shoulder pads with spikes and behemoth do. + Spikey horney helmet on the man on the right. Remember necromolis heroes with "Spikes, hoods, spiders". It's just becomes booring IMO. =\
* Behemoth :))
They live in caves so I would presume they go to those caves so it wouldn't be that freezing. As for h3 feel free to correct me but stronghold wasn't desert faction. The terrain was arid and rough, but that's not really desert as it is here. (And since we are on the topic, it should have extra hair in feet(possibly hands) compared to other places as desert creature if it is creature with hair to protect them)
>Sempai_Mur, you do not want to discuss, what size penis should have hippopotamus?
Are you absolutely retarded or what? I gave all of my arguments above. Try to read. If you have problems with translation, ask. I will translate to russian by myself. And I don't want to hear your retardness about penises, crap, anal stuff and all you sexual problems. If you facing some mental diseases, visit a doctor, I don't give a shit about your sick crap. Now discuss on subject or GTFO.
Also I can understand that the use of spikes in the armours may be to look more dreadful and some possible utilities in kamikaze charges or for dissuadin the enemy to charging against the formation, but in the behemoth wich is an animal I can´t see the reason for those spikes. The behemoth attacks with his claws and using his mass against the enemy when jumping, not charging directly against the enemy, discarding the offensive factor. Being the behemoth probably the apex predator in his medium
...and taking in account his size is less than probable that those spikes were a defensive system (anyone can think of a creature who can threat a behemoths existence and has the sufficient size so that the spikes can become useful?) so in that creature the spikes are for the sake of being there and to catch the attention of a certain sector of the market as happened with many other ornaments in other creatures.
>I'm not interested in your stupid arguments
Then why to take part in discussion? I'm not interested to hear junk from you as well. Avoid my post in future like I always avoid yours. Cya.
Well, arid zones like the one in stronghold in H3 can be counted as deserts, desert doesn´t mean only sand dunes as in sahara and arabian desert. The desert makes reference to a place where the lack of precipitations and ambiental humidity makes defines the ecosystem of the zone. And yes, in that arid zones the temperatures can vary from extremly cold to extremly hot. And by the way I agree with the extra protection on foot and hands.
Iwanesosuro, yes. That was exactly my point. I mean nothing much crappy here but there's just no logical demand for them. That's why I noticed them. It's not even a style. It's just boring way to draw common things everywhere.
The designer like spikes and masks, I guess making M&MX and Homm7, maintain the forum and keep up to expectation can be quite stressful sometime.
Hopefully, they return to normal state when they are designing the sylvan, I like to see less mask, over decoration, spiritual wound and scar, they should represent mysterious, beauty and tough creatures.
Finally weapon that looks like proper weapon! Overall I think this is how you should design the heroes(drop the giant spiked shoulder-pads though). Why can't we get good models for "normal" heroes too?
ramborusina look here:
this sword her is very suitable
I believe that the weapons will look adequately for warriors orcs, but not for the hero
Why do the orc women appear more like humans than orcs?
Maybe she is still an human woman?!
Yea... Why can't she look more orc-ish?
Shiva, Crag Hack, Sandor...
All humans that led Orcs.
A bit more orc-ish would have been better, but I can't complain.
Maybe orc-women are prettier . :)
Because they can't take seriously the female characters. Just look at the justicar.
because young people fucking ruined every myth & game by sexualizing everythig. SEX SELLS remember?
also, our beloved master ErwanLeBreton wants a Game of Thrones, instead of HoMM, just because "fashion"(he exactly said that not my comment!) so we have everything human or human like, with a world of shitloads of Houses & Lords, Banners and other unimportant shits.
homm3 dungeon replaced by fucking sexy ass dark elves, orcs getting human-standart prettier everyday, rampart turned into an fucking elf town, and haven has duchies of countless numbers to make endless civil wars.
We want to choose our campaign heroes' classes in the game! Then, we will be able to play all the campaigns three times, and every time different!
Well, not me... Messes up story lines big time. Imaging a lofty love story centering on Kraal. Ieuw...
6 times, if we can choose might/magic and then all classes
V šestkách to měnit šlo, tak by to mělo jít i tady
I hear what you're saying, but I'm afraid that the map designer needed to do such a campaign, may not do it anymore.
There was a guy, Ururam-Tururam, who made epic maps for Heroes IV. When I say, epic, I truly mean epic. Masterpieces.
Haven't seen maps of that quality since. Still, I agree. I would be nice to have such a campaign.
I realy did not like that feature in H6. It did take the imersion of the game.It was strange to play as might hero for Anastasia when she was supposed to be scholar. And also it limits the special ability posibilities
Podla mna jedna z najblbsich volieb v H6. Vobec sa mi to nepacilo. A navyse to dost hodne obmedzuje priestor pre unikatne schopnosti hrdinov. Nieco co by bolo pre maga dobre je pre rytiera zbytocne. Tiez je divne hrat za magickeho hrdinu ked dany hrdina je bojovnik podla pribehu
In Heroes 6, it was possible only with CONFLUX, but yes. it was.
The poster is brilliant. Imani looks very good. And who cares whether she looks like human or not. It's normal in HMM world. Remember Edric who is Academy Might hero but belongs to Haven faction.
По пустыне на слоне
С миной ушлой на ...(лице)
Рассекает маг Додон,
Магий разных чемпион.
Тут на встречу Имани:
"Та-ак, слоняру тормози".
Маг со страху ох да ах,
Чёт теплеет в сапогах.
Ну-ка мил Долдолн сдавайся,
Дабы голову сберечь,
Разумеешь мою речь?
А не то смотри вражина,
Там за дюнами дружина,
Коль нам злата не даешь,
Со слоном в шашлык пойдешь.
С приключения такого,
Магу стало чёт ... (не очень)
Он давай мошну трясти,
Что б спасенье обрести.
ты прям как с поэтического кружка сорвался))). но это +
Чтобы шишка у автора стояла - зачетно, от души)
Хм... как там это было? ...
Тут царевна выступает,
Словно танком наезжает.
Вся такая растакая,
Как дрезина боевая.
Бронь грудина распирает,
Кладенцом легко играет.
(Но повязку не снимает...)
Где попало шип торчит,
А во лбу, тату горит!!!
Следом цепями звеня,
Тридцать три богатыря...
С ними дядька Бегемот
И виверна там поет.
По пустыням страх несет
Орка - дама Имани
На неё ты не ...ни.
не х...вый поворот да ты дядька - рифмоплет, забубень ка нам еще, что бы было хорошо!
последняя рифма - Ты ее не обними !
Орк стрижет эльфа.
- Эльф, тебе уши нужны?
- На, держи!
просто поддержала идею про орков что-нибудь ....эт единственное что я знаю ))
xD и почему Петросяна все воспринимают как порицание?))))
зато по статье )) ну почти )
Time to write about my fifth complaint: lack of prerequisites between abilities.
Lack of prerequisites between abilities makes getting advanced abilities too simplistic and would simply bore gamers too quickly.
Way to improve that is adding prerequisites, meaning that in order to get ability x you need to get ability y and my suggestion - in order to get Grant Ability a hero should get two level 3 abilities from particular abilities. :-)
I can’t think of anything to say about this other than that this is a beautiful artwork and that I like the brief backstory. Well, if reason leaves the house it is time for the free spirits to roam about unchallenged. I think a short poem is in order here, and thus I open the Gates of Parnassus in the deepest corners of my mind to let out the inspiration. Apollo uses all.
Fair maiden of Hold, greetings upon thee,
and upon thy friends, and fellows free.
Only in passing have I heard your name,
but all had spoken of your endless fame.
Now that I see who you really are,
I understand your toils, and every scar.
A youth of despair, suffering and pain,
treated and seen as the Wizard’s bane.
Your parents undone, in a savage act,
your village was then completely sacked.
The Wizard rats were cheering as they went,
until all their fun had been utterly spent.
They left you to die, alone in the wild,
but you proved to be a most formidable child.
A strengthened resolve, a desire to live,
but forgiveness would never be yours to give.
You grew up to be a most visionary chief,
a mind shaped by survival, and so much grief.
You chose not to follow so many of your kind,
and decided it was better to stay behind.
Even when it happened that you lost an eye,
you were kept so powerful by Father Sky.
You say your companion is a man of wrath,
and that you rather choose an honorable path.
Is there no vengeance, no desire to undo
the Wizard scum that did this to you?
Amazed I am by this turn of events,
you are ready for whatever Fate now presents.
Dressed for battle, spikes on every shoulder,
you strike fear in the hearts of your every beholder.
Your sword in your hand, your cape in good place,
I can only admire your mysterious grace.
Go now, let Mother Earth guide your feet,
and bring those Wizards to a bloody defeat.
Follow your heart, and do what you must,
and reduce all your enemies to specs of dust.
Well, your story is more interesting, than my yesterday's prehistory about Galaadle.
I do wonder why we can't see on his profile that he is suspended. Is he the only one who can see that? Also his posts don't have any hint of that. Usually on fora you can see if someone is banned or not, but okay :).
At least my story is not meant to mock people or be deliberately offensive.
Good boy! 5+
Well done, camarade Marblespeare ;)
If anything, I'd rather be Dante Marblighieri :P
Marblethrone + Is you have written?
Yup, I wrote this in less than an hour. I just conjured up something with the aid of RhymeZone.
They shoul recall game as "Heroes of SPIKES and SPIDERS VII" -_-''
I think Heroes of Skills and Wheels VI :D
You know, I feel like you're overreacting
There is spider symbolism in a single faction, yet people talk as if whole game is filled with it.
It is everywhere. As if the Necro townscreen wasn't enough. It is becoming so childish and ridiculous.
Stop it!The spikes are fine.
Spikes are fine, when there is not waaaaaay toooo much of them.
Now they are EVERYWHERE ;/
Is she an actual orc or a human? Because she looks human to me, and although she is cool, I would like the hero of the ORCS to be an ORC, and not human who joined the orcs, like basically all the stronghold heroes in H6.
I know, right? Ubisoft is reinforcing stereotypes. It's hard enough growing up as an orc in a single parent family, but every movie you watch has faceless orcs being slaughtered in cold blood. One even had a orc murdered by a midget, and the audience had the audacity to cheer. It turns my stomach. The proud heritage of orcdom has been buried by the mainstream media; just look at Ubisoft--orcs clearly aren't capable of leading themselves, there has to be a human to tame the savages. What a shame.
From Ubi : [when “a Demon in the shape of a woman would paint the Empire in red, and the Orcs would be made slaves again] She is that woman XD
@ Wooding1, No, Ubisoft was referring to Biara.
I was joking, but how can you tell the demon blood in this lady won't paint the empire in red?? What if Jengo is captured, humiliated and executed by Human, will Imani just stand back and do nothing :D
And I doubted the wizard will stop their little evil experiments, may be Imani wants to stop that once and for all
Again, they make a thing in this game and call it what it is not. It's like they called a human being an orc.
It only proves they have little idea what they are doing.
THAT"S a character who is dressed reasonably, and still very faction distinctive.
Hm. I feel I have seen a similar artwork before. It makes me think it resembles one of Raelag's poses or something.
Again you are right! my little friend! :)
I seriously hoped to see a reaction from Devs. Team to the "Councillors" opinions on skillwheel and warcries !