Here is the interview with one of the developers. It explains everything. http://youtu.be/ky62krnnZL4
P.S. Devs, don't be offended. ;D Just a parody.
OMFG LMFAO :D
Where is that god damned down vote button?..
Это у кого так по паукополису бомбануло что он даже ролик подкорректировал субтитрами?)
Я даж лайкнул XD
Денис, у SM, похоже. Даже времени не пожалел, видать Джек творит чудеса.
Я же говорил, что сделаю видос. Сказал - сделал.
Amelisan, didn't you notice it on youtube? It's on the right side from the upvote button. ;)
DenisBulenkov, у меня бомбит по спайдерполису с момента анонса некромантов)
Амелисан в точку)
...Джек-Дениэлс & Кола ,окрыляют :))0
- а не ред-булл))
@Sempai: Hahahaha already shared at HC by Stevie xD
Мур а ты врунишка оказываеться)
А говорил что не умеешь верстать работы по героям xD
SEND THIS GUY TO PARIS LMAO!
Haven't laughed that hard in like forever! :D
SM Thank you very much. I wish it was here too.
Точно это Мурка - я глянул автора ролика - там Павел, ты говорил что тебя Пашей звать - элементарно Ватсон xD
DenisBulenkov, доооо сабы сделать это нужно быть гением вёрстки)
Джек необязателен. Достаточно дерьмовой погоды и хорошей музыки. Ну и полтора часа времени ;)
Amelisan, at your service ;)
@DenisBulenkov. А как я ещё мог выложить видео на ютюб если не со своего аккаунта?) И всё же не Пашка, а Павел. ;) Имени Паша у нас нет.
We have to make sure this comment reaches the top!!!! xD
Любое действие требующее каких либо усилий (хоть и малейшее) и вносящее что то новое и при этом по тематике героев - так что от тебя уже есть творчество xD
@DenisBulenkov, ну всё, теперь в Париж собираю сумки)))
Половину не поняла(да и не пыталась понять :)) Но блин, этот дед так заразительно смеется, я прямо не могу XD
У нас нет имени Дениска, Денчик - и ниче я не возмущаюсь xD
Так что терпи - уахаха)
@Elizaveta98, я сделаю русские сабы чуть позже. Там 15 минут времени делов. Тайминг-то уже готов весь.
Hahahaha already bonus requests at HC for the video, you should log in Sempai, you have an account right?
Пёселя выгуляю и сделаю русскую версию. \о
And the best part is that the dude praising that video actually likes Ashan!!!!!!!!!!
GalaadleHaut, ye, I've registered yesterday to leave a comment in your thread =)
Your video is in the H7 discussion thread =))))))))
Короч краткий пересказ видеоролика - Какой то работник из юби говорит что они сделали пауков и что это сожрут фаны, что потом еще к пауку выпустят ДЛС с новыми раскрасками для пауков, что сделали городу паучьи ножки и что игроки все это схавают даже если игра будет стоит 400 евро) Типо оставим модельки из 6 и они сожрут - в общем много бугурта xD
Ну и типо угарают что из за этого хотели сжечь Эрвана)
Sempai what have u done? xDDDDD I cant, this is too much.
Even if you don't share that point of view, that video is HILARIOUS :D
Остаётся только надеяться, что к 8ой части разрабы поумнеют и свернут весь этот балаган. Не удивлюсь, если 7ая часть будет фиговой именно из-за этого рак-лебедь-щука стиля создания.
Pure gold there m8.
I hope you don't mind if I borrow your idea :P
- Зуб у него доставляет :))0. Общий смысл боле мене и так ясен - ток тормозить приходится чтоб прочесть и перевести)
- Отошли это в Юби ))00
Tribute to Spideropolis )
Амелисан, ну не скажи - у людей и магов неплохой стиль вышел. Да и некрополис неплох по сути - просто некоторые не любят пауков)
Денис, Пусть страдают молча. Какая, нафиг, разница, как они выглядят? Эти "некоторые" всё только портят. Разрабы прям текстом сказали, что переделают юнитов ценой чего-то БОЛЕЕ важного для игры, и все это "схавали" на раз и продолжили требовать красивостей. Что с ними не так?
Единственное насчет чего могу повайнить так это экраны города - несочетающаяся с атмосферой игры)
Ну знаешь это как 5 летние дети-модели - их родители уродуют и губят им здоровье ради каких то абстрактных стандартов красоты. Ботекс 5 летних детям - бррр...
И тут так же - куча детишек которым подавай "ГРАФОН ШТОБА КАК В КРАЙСИС" а то что разрабы из за этого будут жертвовать геймплеем им пофиг) такая нынче эпоха свистелок перделок - нам старикам не понять xD
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA THAT IS TOTAL ASSBLOW!!!!!!
А я вообще недоумеваю, чего все так по юнитам загоняются?) Ну первое время может еще и побугуртить на этот счет, а потом уже пофиг будет, если долго играть :)) По мне так пусть больше времени потратят на то, что бы игра например меньше глючила, а не на то что бы юнитов покрасивее сделать:)
@Amelisan, вот это тебя припекло. С юмором совсем туго? Я понимаю, что это может показаться кому-то не смешным, но я же написал, что это пародия, ирония, стёб. У меня не было целей кого-то высмеять или ещё раз намекнуть разрабам о необходимости перемен. Просто обыграл ситуацию. А я ещё доказываю своим, что в России не все ходят с каменными лицами и даже иногда улыбаются :))
@Lizard_Warrior, thanx pal xD Glad, u've liked it) Nice scene with Erwan as well hahaha
Damn, that was hilarious! I'm just not completely sure if it was true or parody given the circumstances...(or both) ;P
ramborusina, Thanx, man :D That was definately a parody... but who dare to say it didn't happen here during the last weeks ;DD
Оскара ему строчно1
Статуэтку Золотого Эрвана xD
>>Разрабы прям текстом сказали, что переделают юнитов ценой чего-то БОЛЕЕ важного для игры, и все это "схавали"
Если ты испытываешь проблемы с переводом, попроси кого-то пояснить сказанное разработчиками и не вводи других в заблуждение. Никогда не говорили разработчики, что юнитов переделают ценой чего-то БОЛЕЕ ВАЖНОГО. И да, я буду говорить и делать то, что считаю нужным. Вне зависимости от того, нравится тебе это или нет.
SM Не пытайся даже ловить на понт насчёт русских. У меня совсем нет комплексов по поводу национальности ;)
Да, сабы в тему наложены, но смысл, этот вечно повторяющийся смысл, что у Галаада, что в этом твоём художестве. "Сделайте некров, "как у всех", внешний вид безумно важен для нас" и т.д. и т.п. Вы такие упёртые, недальновидные конформисты, что да, припекло, чего греха таить. В итоге страдает игра, в которую я намереваюсь долго играть. Уж извини, улыбаться и хлопать не стану. =/
@Amelisan, ну так и иди мимо себе, в чём твоя проблема? Я что, спамлю со своим видео по темам? Кидаю его в каждому сообщению в тредах? Убеждаю кого-то, что оно крутое? Ты уже который раз ноешь, что тебе не нравится этот балаган (который по умолчанию является форумом без каких-либо правил) и ждёшь, когда же разработчики его прикроют. Так отчего ты колеблешься? Не знаешь, где кнопка разлогина или тебя привязали к креслу и заставляют печатать?
Надеюсь, у разрабов не так бомбанёт, а то схвачу бан)
@Sempai I think you better hide when Zatrakus95 sees that video :P
SM Ты тоже будь повнимательнее. Под балаганом я имела в виду попытки делать игру, советуясь с игроками, которые сами не знают, чего хотят, а не форум как таковой.
Самое главное, мои последние сообщения вообще не тебе были адресованы, так что воспользуйся собственным советом в след. раз.
:D *thumbs up* for Sempai_Mur !!!
У разрабов нет денег на баны, им придется банить тебя ценой чего-то важного для игры1
Amelisan, ты постишь в моём треде, говоришь, какой я подонок, что таким, как я (недовольным спайдерполисом), нужно страдать молча, утверждаешь, что с нами что-то не так и удивляешься, что я тебя прошу проходить мимо? Серьёзно?))
Так а зачем ты здесь? Весь этот форум предназначен для того, чтобы делать игру, советуясь с игроками как бы. Это и есть цель данного форума...
SM Так здешний сайт устроен, ничего личного. Я разговаривала с Денисом, тут ты влез и говоришь, чтобы я заткнулась. Не нравится, что я пишу? Иди мимо, в чём твоя проблема?
Я регалась ради голосований, потом уж втянулась в общение немного. И опять-таки: я говорила про 8ую часть уже, не про этот сайт даже. Попробуй читать не по диагонали.
Поздравляю Мур, твой пост стал лучшим из лучших:) Быстро так, я даже глазом моргнуть не успела) Никто не устоит перед ржущим испанским дедом XD
damn that is some funny as hell stuff.
This is... this is pure gold LOL
It's sooo good, I have already seen it four times (and go on) xD
@Amelisan, короче, забей. Ты явно не в адеквате. Надеюсь, это временное. Если нет - будем игнорить друг друга: это отличный выход.
@Elizaveta98, спасибо, я даже как-то не ожидал такого) просто на деда этого наткнулся на ютюбе и пришло в голову сделать сабы по свободе) Сейчас русские доделываю.
You have just made my day! :D
Well deserved +1
Спасибо ребята. Посмеялся от души.
но жду русские сабы)
Амелисан не обижать - это наше все)
И где обещанные руззке субтитры - не для себя прошу)
Guys, thank you :D That is my record in upvotes. I've got a lvl up even! lol Didn't expect that you'll like it that much :))
@ivan_kun. Делаю. Через 20 минут будет готово ;)
:D Надоело спорить, значит, я не в адеквате? Ок, прямо сейчас и начну.
That laugh... that INSANE laugh... wow.
Still, the video is 100% awesome. Anyone that does not like this "Necropolis" should watch it.
Damn, this guy should get a UGC point!
@EnergyW, sill didn't get this achievement in my profile :P
Glad you've liked my vid)
It is because it is added manually, so the devs should see that first. But we all know they don't work on weekends.
Someone should do the same, but then by using the famous Hitler-rage scene from Der Untergang. You know...DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL. ZE SPIDERS ARE EIN BEFEHL.
The best vid ever, laugh my ass off :D It says much about what community thinks.
this video, it's pure gold, i can't stop laughing ! Great job Sempai_Mur !! :))
@Minastir, thanx, man. So glad that all of you had a good laugh) That's the best reward for me. ◄:•D
This is gold, pure gold! Hahaha XD
Great work Sempai_Mur!
I don't mind undead spiders in Necropolis. The video pretends like that was the biggest joke for the line-up reveal and hardly draws attention to the fact that re-used models was the main reason people were unhappy. It missed the mark a little.
ROFL You sir have just won the internet!
@Sempai: What program did you use to add the subtitles to the video?
I have some interesting ideas to include Spider Struggles in the famous Der Untergang-scene :).
Мурк You stole my heart
@KhanOfSlaughter, well, I was guided by my personal opinion which means that the spiders in necropolis is the biggest nonsense. It doesn't show the opinion of the majority. With that, #GROS became more popular than units recycling whine. So it's arguable.
@Marblethrone, I typed them on youtube. There's the most convenient interface to make timing, then I downloaded .srt file and burned them in "Vid Coder" software. Welp, I was gonna make them just on youtube without burn-in, but then I decided that burned-in will look better ;) Lookin' forward to see ur ideas.
@wasd1200, @Mirash, @rodaff, thanx a lot. I didn't expect my vid will become such popular :D <3
I don't care if you agree with the argument or not, that is one hell of a funny video!
I think that even worse of that is sylvan line-up... with dryads that work with treants and treants are champion units... WTF
great job. was really funny :)
Sandro will not be pleased and will cast your mortals souls into the void unless there will be:
-Skeletal H2-H3-H5 Liches
-Non-Arthas Vampires who transform into bats
-No spiders and new town-screen
Things you can scrap in order to redirect more resources:
- expensive and unneeded cutscenes
- unique models for every campaign hero used in cutscenes
- neutral elves
- artwork which won't be used in game
- Erwan's salary
Thanks in advance!
Amen to that Lizard Warrior!
Death to Spiderpolis!
I want cutscenes
I want unique models
I want neutral units
I want spiders
The HoMM3-Vampire was the most stupid vampire ever. It was not scary but funny.
I only agree with skeletal liches
Bah, I would like a neutral vampire, like it was in H5: a bit scary from H3, with class of H4 and H2 and has the sword of H6.
No, do not cut cutcscenes. Not for this time. For me it's better to remove necropolis from the game, than cutcscenes.
I agree with you totally! In H5 in the campaigns we had several main heroes, all others were the same as the creatures or common heroes from the game
I want skeletal Liches and Vampires that are a mix of H3 and H5! Don't forget, a vampire is originally a count! not a knight. So it would be nice to make him to look like a count, at least.
It was mentioned already that vampires won't transform into bats due to difference in game worlds (Ashan)
Same with spiders!
However, I hope they will make good looking liches and a new town screen, cause right now I think town screens don't look natural… they have too many colours, building are small and so on…
The Necropolis lore in Ashan is mostly garbage that doesn't make any sense and is destroying the faction.
Cutscenes never will be at the quality level as it would be required to make people care more about story, so yes get rid of them completely unless you can deliver stellar experience. Blizzard divided starcraft into 3 parts just to provide excellent campaign, perhaps you can do the same. Include all factions but give only 1 campaign - that gives you space for expansions and more budget to make some other things right.
I agree with the scrap list, but would also add the "funny animations" to the list. For cutscenes you can just have a narrator tell the tale and maybe have a few pictures to go with it. Game-play and and good multi-player should be the main focuses of the game IMO.
Yep, they can also scrap the silly animations, instead of making an extra animation for every creature in the game they should focus on something more important
Skeletal Liches and bat-vampires are totally needed to be done instead of current units.
Why do we hate spiders? Because:
Spiders are not undead creatures, they are not associated with death, they are a poor attempt to keep copying Warcraft, they are every where (even TS has spiderlegs) and mainly because the spider is connected to the SpiderCult which is destroying the true essence of the real Necropolis. Necromancers are not good guys looking for balance, they are selfish bastards like Sandro that only care about themselves and their own personal goals
Enough is enough!
#GROS (at least in H8)
I want a spider free ecropolis if it can get you morons to shut the **** up...
I truly don't hate spiders. What I 'hate' in all this Necropolis design in H7 is the fact that it doesn't look or feel like Necropolis. Starting by Town Screen, going into units designs (units feel like they are sentimental at having embellished garments, armors and things that are not logical for a non-morale army. Everything glows, everything is designed towards spider-cult (follows the lore though, still it feels overwhelming).
That's all related to visuals anyway, given that line up itself is very similar to other titles.
@mediczero, lmao funny to hear that author of one billion of tasteless lineups became annoyed xD
@Sussugamon, spiders are ok. Just not in this faction and not in this game. Somehow I used to deal with necro-spiders in King's Bounty. But not here.
@mediczero: For your own good go for a walk if you can. Unfortunately fighting trolls is impossible task.
@rodaff: Where have you seen spiders in Warcraft? If they gave Cthulhu-like creatures or undead where demons plot that would be from Warcraft. Still I'm waiting for any evidence that spiders are worse design choice than pianting entire faction (town screen and units) on one colour, grey in HoMM 3.
@mediczero we are morons?
Your childish response seems to indicate otherwise
who loves spiders -Keep them home in a box .... \small Namtaru\ ))
@Zatrakus95, trolls? Really? Heroes fans since 1995 (year when you were born probably) are now considered as trolls? What an awesome joke.
mediczero Zatrakus95 mission Impossible ////
the majority does not like spiders have necromancers
@Semapai_Mur: They are for how long they stay in 1995 and have no will to move even an inch into the future. They are it as they don't listen to devs and demand line up changes, ignore "work in progress" marks and insult development team even under information about how they listen to what community says and change things.
@Zatrakus95 read and see the similarities:
Also grey it's much better and fitting to the faction than bright green or purple.
And don't criticize HoMM3 after more than a decade it's the best of the franchise
мурка переведи этому умнику ,что пока что в будущем куча новинок -олени ,пауки .Все ужасно счастливы и такие как я ньюфаги вообще от счастья сдохнут ))
@Zatrakus95, no offence, but you are an idiot and you live in your own imagination. H1 I loved, h2 was cool, h3 was awesome, h4 was a disaster with some cool features, h5 was perfect, the best game in series, h6 was a total mess, catastrofical disaster. And now I see some symptoms it is going worse. And you call me stucked in 1995? Grow up, kid.
H5 could have been the best of the series if it didn't have horrid visuals matching dumbass Ashan lore.
@Zatrakus95, Mirash was asking to translate that there are a lot of newies in h7 game already like deers and spiders so newfags like herself could die of happiness.
GalaadleHaut, meh, I liked it anyway. =) I know it's kinda 50/50 who counts h5 as the best and who counts h3 as the best but I'm in the first camp ;)
@zatrakus95, I don't know if you are kiding, or if I didn't understand you. But you said that there are no spiders undead faction on warcraft? So nerubians are what?
WE WANT LICH TO HAVE DEATH CLOUD ABILITY
DEATH CLOUD TO LICH
This man said it!
Isn't the skeletal lich a priority first rather than changing an ability?
good idea, that was powerfull skill. When H6 was released I couldn't get used to liches without death cloud.
those blowing bolt could b smth similar i suppoz. I'm fine with it. could b interesting
@EnergyW: I guess Erwin is too stubborn about his dumbass lore ruling everything to allow Lich to be skeletal lol
All we can hope is for a bett.... less horrid design.
yes, yes, yes, bring back the death cloud.
will be imba
Yes if people upvote me there is a chance to get their attention about it. :P
Or tell them at the conference in Paris.
And no retialiation for vampire too, pleaaaaase!!!!!
Lol death cloud was removed? Why would someone do that ... lich had this since I remember. This in fact is proof that they had no knowleadge about past games and they dont care. Or let me guess ... need to be done to be balanced or in other words the same as rest of shooters ... I am upvoting this.
Death cloud was already absent in H6 IIRC.
Yeah ... I do not count H6 as true heroes game ... barely was playing it.
No one considers H6 a true Heroes game lol
Lich must be skeletal and have death cloud
Also no retialiation for vampire
Maybe it has, but it's not described because it would be a 'normal' thing for a lich?
Simply because it would be a good factor to make it less ordinary. If you watch closely, most of Spidero-I mean, Necropolis units have only the ability of being undead when non upgraded. I think that's too poor.
I just don't understand why the upgrades are made so over the top. I like most of "basic/1st" models, but I see them as what the upgrade should be. Upgrades don't need all the bling, spikes, spider-legs, chains and glow. Sometimes less is more!
Also how is it that your concept pictures seem so much better than your actual models? It almost feels like you first did model, then you draw the picture of what it should've been like.
PS that ebon spider is along the lines of cute and clumsy -.-
We all know they reused the models. Not sure what does H6's artwork look like, but yeah, they certainly did the model first and official artwork later, just like the male wizard of Academy.
As for upgrades, I guess they have less and less creativity and decided to bulk them all up.
lol spider and Cabir plushies anyone?
Might as well make a a dire wolf plushie as well lol
Please send LIZARD WARRIOR to Paris!
A FEW of his dedication
I guess you could also post that in the other thread. That's where it belongs, more than here at least.
Yup, good stuff. But he needs to send it to ubi. It's all up to them to decide.
But he is definately very, very involved. That's something I dare not deny.
He should definitely participate!
And you? also good write \ I understand \
He seems quite devoted. However, is he in this council? And another matter is that most of those links are for things we know they won't change, thing that he has the liberty to create. Won't this travel to Paris be more frustrating for him than anything else, because it's not like he'll be free to create anything in there, right?
Посмотрел на юнитов предложенных этим воином ящером - в одних чувствуеться свежее веяние и творческая жилка, а смотря на другие я начинаю понимать кто мои лечебные травы от нервов из Узбекистана своровал xD
Sussugamon, yes, he is =)) He's one of the Sandros cult)
Ah, ok. ^^ I do think, though, that he would feel tied up not being able to expose much of his ideas. I'm only stating that because that's how I would feel if I had his devotion. However, I also believe that he can cast aside all that to represent the council and its needs if needed be.
LIZARD и Marblethrone я их иногда перевожу ,они норм пишут ,и даже с юмором и не пишут по 5 км текстов нудных и непонятных ,как многие тут
еще есть Rambo европеец - но он на пол дня как напишет -не реально читать ,хотя судя по текстам -сильный фанат
@DenisBulenkov, да пофиг. Всё равно дохренища времени он в это вложил.
вово ,они старались чет делали ...Rambo вообще там роман накалякал в профиле .Они что то делают ,время тратят - это надо вознаграждать ....
И тем более они не психи и не троли ,никого не обижают
кстати у хаоса видали 3-х томник в профиле ))) старался видать ....кто на что горазд ))
Я ж не говорил что то что они делают плохо: большинство работ очень интересные)
Sandro Revolution FTW
I approve this. He should go. So many of good ideas there. Secondary resources and camp dwellings are very nice addition. Just note who is that Verriker? Is that Erwan himself?
send lizard, me and some other fans too, well because you know.. we want it.
anyways if there should be another fan to get invite, it should be lizard... upvoted in a heartbeat.
congratz to fans & devs, we are pleased with latest news.
1) Your 1st Heroes game.
2) Your favorite Heroes game.
1) Heroes 3
2) Heroes 3
1) Heroes 5
2) Heroes 5.
P.S. but I finished all chapters later.
1) Heroes 5
2) Heroes 5
2) Heroes 5
1) H 5
2) H 6
1) Heroes 3
2) Heroes 3
It seems that most of us tend to apreciate the first HoMM game the most
1) Heroes 2
2) Heroes 5
1) Heroes 2
2) Heroes 3
upvote to the TS. Interesting statistics.
1). Heroes II
2). Heroes III
Actually I like the campaigns in Heroes VI a lot. The intermission mechanism from Heroes V and Heroes VI are amazing!!! Before that we need to read the game...:(
1) Heroes 1
2) Heroes 5
1) My little pony
2) My little pony
1) Heroes 1
2) Heroes 2
Imho asymmetric gameplay was the best part about HoMM series
1) Heroes 3
2) Heroes 6
Ну а если без шуток то первой была 3 часть, играл во все части, лучшая естественно третья XD
Клоны отакэ :D
1) Heroes III
2) Heroes III
1) Heroes 3
2) Heroes 5
3 | 5
Вот был хороший журналист Джон Рид — сделал репортаж, умер, похоронили.
1) Heroes II
2) Heroes V
3/5 too damn hard choice...
Strange how none of you mentioned Chronicles...
1) Heroes V
2) Heroes V
1) Heroes II
2) I do not have a favorite Heroes game. All have some features I like, but none has yet the perfect combination to satisfy me fully. But I would be lying if I didn't mention Heroes III and Heroes V.
1. Heroes 6
2. Heroes 5
Yeah, I know. I'm playing this one backwards. I never enjoyed Heroes 6. I only liked it because of the genre.
1) Heroes II
2) Heroes II
1) Heroes 2
2) Can't pick between 2 and 3, I love them both! ><
1) Heroes 3
2) Tie between Heroes 3 and 5
2 H5 and H3
1) Heroes 3
2) Heroes 6
You can hate me now :P
1) Heroes 3
2) Heroes 5
1) heroes III
2) heroes VI
-can transform into a bat
So we won't hear foolish ideas about gender.
Jon.Collins a JeremiahEmo wannabe
- no sword
- with bony claws
- no glows
JeremiahEmo is beneath me
No you are exactly same, you just whining female instead male.
Making changes to Liches & Vampires is surely the right decision. Looking forward to their new iteration!
Surely, LICH is NO GHOUL!
Dear Ubisoft Team,
I appreciate that you, designers are considering the requested changes by the community.
Still, i’m afraid about minor modifications on the H6 based modells of few creatures are just not satisfying.
By my opinion, the direction of necro over all style is heading a bad direction since H6.
I understand, that you are always trying to upgrade your games with new, innovative ideas. So, giving a try for the spider cult is totally acceptable until a point. But, you have already received a clear feedback from the community (even if they are rude sometimes, that’s an other topic). It was refused.
Poor designs, ideas happens. It’s not a problem until they are handled like that. Moreover they should be shared with the community for feedback. It’s great, that it is constantly happening. At the same time facing the fact of a poor design is not easy, but forcing it through against the customers resistance is a mistake!
Rejecting in time and sticking to standards is not shame!
An old fun
wrong squence, sorry for that
You are a Sandro without avatar ;)
Thank you :) It's just, my a single persons opinion.
Necro means old, horroristic castles, foggy graveyards and dark forests under the moonlight for me. That’s what necro was once and it’s supposed to be.
Spider cult is okay for an idea. Maybe it can be used with moderation, but this is a huge overshoot. It totally overwrites the original style of necro.
"Rejecting in time and sticking to standards is not shame!"
Indeed it is not
Cult can be a cult. I accept some spider symbols as http://dreamworlds.ru/uploads/posts/2009-09/1253544378_arantir.jpg but it doesn't mean to be -spiders_everywhere- hysteria. It has nothing about spider and spiders-like creatures. And it doesn't mean that spider symbols should be placed just everywhere.
Good personal position.
I think they have much pressure over their shoulders that might not make them act as they would like. Perhaps they really want to change and make people happier, but who can tell?
thank you for your friendly statement... But let me correct you a little bit: Not all of us refused the ideas about the spider-cult. I like it... Maybe the "spider theme" for the whole city is a little bit too much... By the way... I find a lot of creativity in the different line-ups! Greetings...
Unfortunately (or not) there is not many options for changing it now. Reworking Lich and Vampire is big enough modifictaion.of work schedule and it probably won't be possible to overall tune down spider theme to the point that will be acceptable for community. Most likely next instalment will be spider-free (Unless people won't buy this one. Than there will be no MMH for next 6 years... at least).
Thank you for your point. I treyd emphasize, that this is only my opinion, and also the point of view what i felt dominant among the community based on the comments.
Your correction is wellcome.
I do not agree with you but it's nice to finally see someone who politely expressed his views as an adult. it is the principle of participatory development
Yes they hide their ideas until the point nothing can be changed (or rather very hardly) and then they share it with us. Thats very strange order of things. Feedback should be collected at the time while still is time for changes otherwise whole feedback can be thrown to the garbage and thats how I feel sometimes here. Then ubi wonders .. why is everybody so angry over here ....
"@mediczero, lmao funny to hear that author of one billion of tasteless lineups became annoyed xD"
+1 for that
Morons? I think you forgeting yourself!
Evidence? What are you talking about? How can people give evidence of their taste over the other? Impossible to prove to give evidences. I do prefer H3 simply and mainly because it felt dead, grey, lifeless. That's my evidence. If it doesn't serve what you want to thear, I personally cannot help you with your issue. I prefer it over the current super glowing, center-cluttered (lack of uniqueness), spider-inclined design. There people who likes, but I won't ask evidence from them.
That is a healthy attitude. Kudos to you, Sussugamon.
Sadly, this post is misplaced. It was supposed to follow in rodaff's post.
So why I couldn't ever find even a sign of these being opinions and not arbitrary truths? I may not have spelled that but my main problem is that people demand from this game to be HoMM 3. It won't ever be it. I would accept your opinions and move on if this was just a normal forum but it isn't. Purpose of this site is to help in MMH 7 creation. Thus every opinion you leave here should be helpfull for the dev team. Opininions which say- "change everything to be HoMM 3" have no value for devs.
@Zatrakus Maybe 1 or 2 ppl might have said that. But most ppl just want H7 to have influences from H3 and H5, not a copy pasta fest from H6. And there is a difference in having influences from the previous games and just outright cope paste or trying to look like Warcraft.
That's how RobvD said.
I also never said that I wanted it to be H3. I had H3. If I want to play it, I do. I still play H4 more than that, though. I find it more fun. I compared the fact that H3 had a unique feel about Necropolis which I don't see in H7 so far. That means mainly of what we know: visuals - given they don't show much on mechanics. All Town Screens, which I already voiced aroud here, are bad. They all look the same, with different colors. You see that? Yes?
I don't want this game to look like H4 when it comes to town screens. I know you are aware of how it was back then, however, you can give credits that at least in H4, different terrains would affect how that town screen looked. I want a combination of these features of H3 (uniqueness feel of town, which you can also find in H5, a whole kingdom, growing, having inhabitants and not a military camp as in H4, 6 and 7) and H4 (ambiance). Do you understand this?
That's my evidence, whether you concur or not with it. Just don't think that I am wanting another H3 game in my life.
@Zatra there is a small problem with what you say. You say we can't give critique on models if they have work in progress and once they are finished it's too late to change. Also one of the biggest problems is the re-use and recycle from h6 which many of us hated(I mean it's more like a spin-off than part of the great series...). Another big problem is that when we try to reason nothing happens or gets heard, but when we shout and rage changes happen. It's really problem in the format.
Jon.Colins, another sick baster trying to sabotage this forum, GTFO
I'm not trying to sabotage this forum. Why do you say that?
I think I know what you mean. ^_^
Don't worry, I'm not a sexist bastard. I'm actually the opposite. I think women are better than men and I love female units. Rest assured, you will like my posts. :)
You are not sexist bastard, so whats this? "I think women are better than men"
One gender warrior is enough. Every post i have ever seen from you are about genders and provoking Jemo. Another troll account... Sometimes i think about that you are Jeremiah trying to show us that feminists supporters are worse than his endless gender anti-feminist topics under every topic
LightAvatarX please leave already you only spam stupid things..
Spam?EVERY WITCH WAY,spam?
Don't make me cast a spell!
yes this web is for discusion about game not your stupid spamming go on facebook
Lol man, scroll down a bit. What did you see? Topics: feminism, feminism, misoginysm, random flood, flood, feminism, random flood, lineups from mediczero. So ya, don't offend Avatar. He was absent for a while. We were missing him :D
I can't choose which spell to cast on you!
Oh sempai that was SWEET!
LightAvatarX, but still don't spam, man :D U can post new links in the same threat without creating new one ;))
but I will cast implosion on you. prime damage, so nobdy can heal you
And sempai from a sweet,sweet guy you transformed into a nerd....
DARK OR LIGHT,IT'S NOT THE POINT
JUST LOCK HER NOW IN A STUPID STORAGE
Lock what in where??? Who is stoopid? I don't understand?!! Do you have problem with me?
I was speaking to plodnice and that which I told was a spell!
How unamusing. People spam, discuss and speak about some gender conflicts (which aren't even relevant) and now one guy posts a bunch of links and suddenly he is a criminal of the worst sort.
And back in my day,
Implosion was an earth spell!
That was also SWEET!
Yep, mine too.
Back in those days, implosion could do multiple thousands of damage, sure you could heal it, but healing was much rarer then. I'd like to see someone try to out heal a potentially 2k damage nuke that could be launched every round.
Although there are some D&D spells that I'd like to have too.
Here are some basic things for you think of:
-vampires are fast aristocratic creatures soo
-they have basic light armor if they even have some (but aristocratic one)
-they have light weapons,maybe some little one handed sword
-life drain is basycly blood drinking,soo could you just make it,well i don't know...red?
-oh yeah,strong association to blood-->red colour
-strong association to bats,and NO association to spiders
-and finally...Arthas isn't a vampire,Dracula is!
Aaand here is something for liches as well:
-they are NOT drug addict ghouls
-they are skeletal
-they are NOT assochiated with spiders so please NO F***IN' SPIDER LEGS on the back
-they have actual magic staff,you know,that actually looks like one...
-they are everything that's not H6 (and current) lichwannabe
-they are H6 (and current) lichwannabe aren't even is distant relationship with real litches
Hope this helpes!
Dont agree dude, light armor and weapon for vampires,seriously? They have abnormal strenght and are high ranked amongst the Necropolis creatures and you want to dress them like sceletons
and for liches, please remember they are mummies very old mummies, what do you expect them to look like? Charlie sheen on coke? Agree though,staff could use some improvements, the leg bullshit as you called it fits the story, I dont necceserily enjoy it as much as the next guy, but it works. Not all liches are spider cult followers, but this game will be arround them. The devs never said they would pult this nonsence on other cults.
@Wasd1200 My hero! I Completely agree with everything you said! :)
You have to go to Paris )
The pre-Dracula vampires looked more like ghouls, so that option is at least as valid as Dracula. Personally, I'd go for Anne Rice vampires. Looking like fabulous rockstars and putting enemies to sleep with their long, drawn-out life stories.
@DonatasL yes,i want to give them light armor as they are not tank units but reather fast ones. Furthermore,they are most often the aristocratic class of the undead "society" (if you can call it that way) so a lighter but niggling (not sure this is the word i wanted here) armor would absolutely fit. They don't need heavy armor,after all they have unnaturally good speed so they evade and even if someone could be so loucky to harm them they will regenerate from their blood. SO YES
@DonatasL about litches,i said SKELETAL becoulse i expect them to be so ancient that only their bones remained. But i'm good with mummies as long as they actually look like mummies and their them fits the mummy style. But here they are drug addict ghouls (i don't remember any drug addict mummies but please tell me if know one) and their style don't even fit mummy them (witch is good becoulse they are not mummies here) Also,the spider legs are lorewise indeed,they just don't make...
...any sense and that's disturbing.
Elle-One yes but the ghoul-like creature is already there in the core soas long as you don't want sparkling diamond vampshimmers the next most valid style is the aristocratic one
Yes. Like the Light Unicorn in H5. Sparkly attack that blinds the enemy. An idle animation where they look at their blood-stained hands and go "WHYYYYYYYYY?".
No, neither of my suggestions are meant to be taken serious, just pointing out that your claims of what makes a true vampire aren't necessarily the only truth here.
That said, I want a Vampire Hero that's like a WoD Malkavian.
In the Middle Ages (not the 18th-19th centuries), "Aristocratic" armour ment the heaviest plate armour available.
Because that was what the medieval aristocrats wore.
Well said, wasd1200.
Heroes 7 - 3d town screen suggestion (fan made) - not my job xD
I wish it was simple as that. There are other things to be considered when making a 3D town screen.
Oh yeah that's the vid from Red Flag (admin of might-and-magic.ru), great stuff
Town screens like that AKA Heroes 5 style look awful, I'd rather have a 2d static sceen than that unnecessary ugly screen, just go back to Heroes the older Heroes screens like 1-4.
Красотища то какая! Лепота...
Adorable. I wish to see something familiar in this (next probably) game.
DataPack2329 Realy? You suggesting awfull H4 townscreens? Seriously? Maybe you liked first version of H6 townscreens too? Like those, in ugly little window? Which was worse than some of the browser games out there? In ascetic spartan style. Surely will be better than those awfull epic beautyful cities of H5.