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SlumbrousShip5 Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 18:54:51

OK little hope for undead. What is green doing as their color....

Necro colors should be black and grey. With some white of course because some troops have bone showing. Get away from this poison venom crap once and for all. Its the undead FFS!

BRING BACK THE HAUNTING NECRO

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SlumbrousShip5 Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 19:01:23

And since there were literally NO hints at what units to expect, I really hope we will get info on that later this week.

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mediczero Der Schicksalshammer
January 20, 2015 19:01:37

A thouch of green is actually nice, if they do not overdo it...

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SlumbrousShip5 Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 19:12:01

Sure, but not for necro imo. They've dropped the mono colors as they have already said many times, i get that. I am not expecting the units to be covered in it. But honestly a neon green just catches the eye and it is an ugly combo with skeletons and vampires.

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Marblethrone Der Ritterliche
January 20, 2015 19:18:06

It's at least better than the purple from H5 ToE. Maybe there's someone in that dev team that wants to keep the Venom Spawn's legacy alive? :P

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jshalky Der Mächtige
January 20, 2015 19:18:43

If they green with the troops in a same way like it is done with the crow I would look good.
I think if would be very hard for them to make units look uglyer

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Cleglaw Der Ratgeber
January 20, 2015 19:19:43

xic neon green nightclub supermodels with super healthy smooth skins doesnt look like anything like undeads. pre-ubi udneads were really scary and they were acctually looking like undeads with skeletal features, dark colors, lifeless eyes etc etc..

this is the biggest dissappointment about h7 to me. still flashy toxic green stuff with pale human race in core.

I WANT UNDEAD! grey skins, horrific looks, bruises, burned skins, skeleton features.. all races of undeads

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Djordjevic5 Der Prächtige
January 20, 2015 19:26:33

I liked the light-purple from H5. But I would be nice if the don't over-do-it with this green, or any other color the choose for the undead

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Aarkill Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 19:30:10

Green happens to be my favourite colour, spiders my favourite IRL animals (arachnids, whatever) and I LOOOOOVE undead things. Now with that said, I think that.... they ARE overdoing it. The whole cult thing, super venom shit and stuff is "kinda original" but this is not necromancers. This is creepy goth cult. Liches have flesh and vampires are everybody with a tiny smudge of brain left. And that is making me irate. But oh well.

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SlumbrousShip5 Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 19:32:04

@Marblethrone

If that is true and the venom spawn does return....I will be very suprised, and happy :)

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Aarkill Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 19:32:52

I'm still hoping for a Void Lich / Netherlich upgrade for liches in the campaign so that they actually look like evil skeletal overlords and not old geezers on drugs. Also Scythe-wielding Wraiths/Death Knights.

Oh, and PS: remove the symbol cap, or at least set it to 1000/750 so that I don't need to double-post and annoy the shit out of everyone, sorry guys.

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Alexei5000.32 
January 21, 2015 01:55:35

I'm on the fence about this. I really liked the new necro philosophy and lore around the mother namtaru that VI introduced with necros being the keepers and balancers of the cycle of life and death instead of just dark, creepy, mindless evil beings. Like when Sveltana explains the concept of the undead soldiers being an extension of the Necromancer, the green energy being like the lifeforce that ties the whole idea together. Maybe rework to "haunting", while keeping that lore alive? Thoughts?

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TinyPurple Der Kreegan
January 21, 2015 06:54:23

actually, red is a better color for the undead. think of the blood from vampires lips. or the tip of a skeleton archer/spear covered in the living blood

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KhanOfSlaughter Der Eroberer
January 21, 2015 11:04:52

Maybe they died from radiation poisoning...

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Tumorco1 
January 21, 2015 12:54:29

Necropolis should be haunting, yes, and necromancers should be FUCKING EVIL!!! They were the best villains of the previous games! And yes, I want Sandro back and kicking ass.

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mErEnEfErEee Der Erboste
April 05, 2015 21:29:46

Yes, she doesn't look like a necro. They just added some green colors and eyes. Ridiculous.

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Someborednerd Der Wanderer
April 05, 2015 21:40:28

Actually, type "necromancer" in Google Images - then tell me, which color is dominant amongst them.

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Someborednerd Der Wanderer
April 05, 2015 21:41:08

Then, ask yourself whether the claim that green is "out of place" for Necromancers makes sense.

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Someborednerd Der Wanderer
April 05, 2015 21:43:23

She wears black robes, her unliving skin is pale gray, her eyes glow green - she's what you'd expect a necromancer to be.

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violetcoffee 
April 05, 2015 21:54:23

Green color became cheesy after H6. She looks like a vampire high on namtaru's poison. And that's exactly what she is.

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Sempai_Mur Der Finstere
April 05, 2015 21:55:24

Oh you... necroposters... :P

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violetcoffee 
April 05, 2015 21:56:44

#GROS

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Sempai_Mur Der Finstere
April 05, 2015 21:57:43

#VN

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Someborednerd Der Wanderer
April 05, 2015 22:04:23

I'm in the minority perhaps, but I don't want to get rid of the spider philosophy, or I don't even Void to take over Necropolis... That being said, I am disappointed by H6's portrayal of this faction.

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B_WE 
April 05, 2015 22:26:50

@Sligneris:
Perhaps we could see in the game differences within the necropolis faction... Some are religious fanaticic, some are rather sceptically... If we are lucky we will see this in different neutral creatures like undead sorcerers or vampire knights... That would be an interesting side story.

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mErEnEfErEee Der Erboste
April 06, 2015 11:51:33

Sligneris@@@ I didn't say it is "out of place" I said it is not enough, it's too little. They just added a green color to a human being, woman. Read with understaning.

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mErEnEfErEee Der Erboste
April 06, 2015 11:59:45

Example of true, desired necro here:

http://heroes.thelazy.net/wiki/Necropolis

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mErEnEfErEee Der Erboste
April 06, 2015 12:01:24

How much green can you see, Sligneris? I can see a range of dark and cool colors.

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Tito_Reni Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 18:17:38

In the pre-Ubi games, the necromancers were terrifying, now they are gay emos who look like supermodels. Shame on you Ubi, give us back the nasty cadaverous faces.

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Juker92 
January 20, 2015 18:22:08

This, 10000000000 times this

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Tito_Reni Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 18:25:46

@Juker92 Thanks!!! xDD

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Antarius90 Der Mysteriöse
January 20, 2015 18:42:04

Im agree with you.

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Minastir Der Beschützer
January 20, 2015 18:54:53

You are right but it changed with terrible Heroes VI, in Heroes V necromancers were looking great, remember Vladimir, Orson or Kaspar ? :)

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SlumbrousShip5 Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 18:55:36

Fully agree. They need to create necro like it was done in h2 and h3

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Cleglaw Der Ratgeber
January 20, 2015 19:17:57

fully agreed Tito,

toxic neon green nightclub supermodels with super healthy smooth skins doesnt look like anything like undeads. pre-ubi udneads were really scary and they were acctually looking like undeads with skeletal features, dark colors, lifeless eyes etc etc..

this is the biggest dissappointment about h7 to me. still flashy toxic green stuff with pale human race in core.

I WANT UNDEAD! grey skins, horrific looks, bruises, burned skins, skeleton features.. all races of undeads

fuck!

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Tito_Reni Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 21:03:12

@Minastir In Heroes V only four necro heroes looked really ugly, the other seven weren't scary. You can check it here: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/necro_heroes.shtml

At least, the creatures were scary.

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Cleglaw Der Ratgeber
January 20, 2015 19:19:11

toxic neon green nightclub supermodels with super healthy smooth skins doesnt look like anything like undeads. pre-ubi udneads were really scary and they were acctually looking like undeads with skeletal features, dark colors, lifeless eyes etc etc..

this is the biggest dissappointment about h7 to me. still flashy toxic green stuff with pale human race in core.

I WANT UNDEAD! grey skins, horrific looks, bruises, burned skins, skeleton features.. all races of undeads

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darioio 
January 20, 2015 19:31:30

Easy man, you don't know how they are gonna look like.
We can only hope similar to H2/H3 necro units

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SlumbrousShip5 Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 19:34:01

I really fear for what the dread might look like if he returns. I dont even want a drop of green on his armor.

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 19:34:29

Hard to hope with H6 art in front of you.

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darioio 
January 20, 2015 19:40:11

Yeah I know, but Galaadle maybe it's the same like with dungeon line-up, they just simply posted H6 units due to lack of any other prepared

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 19:42:20

I sure hope so, darioio.

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CuriousOnlooker 
January 20, 2015 20:38:01

You can't really make general claims about the undead, since they're different in every culture around the world.
A lich, like you say, is supposed to look dessicated, because she stores her soul in an artefact, keeping her alive without preserving her body.
A classic vampire, on the other hand, maintains a pristine appearance, but has to drink blood in order to do it (or in this case venom), preserving her body at the cost of the purity of her soul, thus Anastasya still makes sense.

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guest-XKIQr58H Der Mysteriöse
January 21, 2015 04:29:59

Give us those awesome Death Knights from Heroes 3!

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Nyankonono73 
January 21, 2015 07:50:54

Thankfully we will get them soon in HD anyway :)
I want to hear the sound that was coming from their critical strikes again!

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Nubbocrates Der Prächtige
January 21, 2015 02:20:13

I don't really like how they made Necromancers a religious cult always going on about spider mothers and Asha.
I liked thinking them of as ambitious, amoral wizards who traded their humanity for the power and knowledge immortality can bring.

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JeremiahEmo Der Zerstörer
January 21, 2015 02:23:31

I agree. One of the reasons why I dislike Ashan so much is because almost every faction is obsessed with religion. Not to mention the dragon gods are one of the least interesting and least creative ideas I've came across to.
1 or 2 factions that's obsessed with religion is fine. Ashan unfortunately has every faction except Academy.
It's uncomfortable to think that Haven, known as the crazy religious faction, is less religious than Dungeon and Necropolis.

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Niwroc Der Uralte
January 21, 2015 03:47:27

I surprisingly find my self agreeing with JeremiahEmo here. While each faction is certain to have its religious fanatics. Haven strikes me as reflecting Europe in the Middle Ages where there was one acceptable religion and all others were branded heretical which is seen in part in their H6 campaign. But they don't actually seem to be the most religious at least not by much. Necro I think of as having some tenuous religious affiliation but being mostly about becoming deities of their own.

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Necroeroticus Der Wahnsinnige
January 21, 2015 04:02:52

I agree Nubbocrates.
That is how I like my necromancers.
Fuck this Dragon/spider god shit

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wasd1200 Der Wanderer
January 21, 2015 06:50:25

Wow,a good post from Jemo,finally,i hope that this will become frequent,keep it up Jemo! And i also agree,necro doesn't need gods,they are immortal! Screw the dragonspider god!

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mediczero Der Schicksalshammer
January 21, 2015 07:31:25

I for one think that the religion is actually good. It gives each faction a good reason to oppose each others without needing several generations of hatred that means that two factions never can ally with each other against a common foe. Of course that shouldn't be overdone, much like the color coding...

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ptrsc Der Uralte
January 21, 2015 09:19:11

For me it's quite good, as long as most factions are not overzealous. The wizards themselves are rather amoral and ambitious, sacrificing everything that stands on their way to follow Sar-Elam on his path to wisdom, enlightenment and dragonhood. Like Cyrus in H5 backstory. Of course there are exceptions that are good and selfless. And there are also Necromancers that don't give a damn about Asha and her Balance - Sandro, anyone?

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ptrsc Der Uralte
January 21, 2015 09:22:24

But Necromancers worshipping Death aspect of a Creator God, knowing that She is both the ultimate end and the new beginning, dedicated to keeping balance between Light and Darkness - I find this simply awesome.

Asha consumes all.

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Tumorco1 
January 21, 2015 12:48:51

For me, Sandro is the main villain of this franchise. I am quite sad that, since Ubi took the helm, he has only appeared in a DLC so far...

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Articun Der Wanderer
January 20, 2015 23:02:16

People, chill. That Anastasia has green doesn't mean that all undead will have green color. Maybe green aura since it has been associated with necromantic magic in contrast to bluish energy of Academy magic.

As for Anastasia herself, she was turned undead by her aunt very soon after her death and not long after she became a vampire and a powerful one.

Honestly, green is not such a bad color for undead. It reminds of poison and mold. Combine it with the right grey and brown and its great ;)

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Gnildryw Der Schatzjäger
January 29, 2015 12:37:07

I agree wholeheartedly. That is all.

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Finstersang Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 17:44:47

That would be a great Lich!

--> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F-8qT41-Kaw/Thc7t7utrxI/AAAAAAAAAaA/DSY9-Ao9GF4/s1600/lich2.jpg <--

- Made by Negativland - http://heroescommunity.com/

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 17:46:30

Thumbs up !

He also made Archlich
--http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RuvzxfWrAyg/Thg0ypPA3gI/AAAAAAAAAaI/_Yos82Reo60/s1600/archlich.jpg--

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celitonto Der Plünderer
January 20, 2015 17:49:52

I love how the archlich looks, mainly because of the red on his clothes... it is not that all green like in H6

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Finstersang Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 18:03:21

@GalaadleHaut

Yeah, it looks also great! I hope the Lich for HOMM VII is at least skeletal and in the best case the Lich looks alike the art from Negativeland.

And another alternative version of the Archlich:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-srZMC6RY-_U/Thb_Y2Rs9iI/AAAAAAAAAZo/kdhTQrhnELk/s1600/lich.jpg

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 18:06:12

:good:

Since we're at it, I liked this one too :

-- http://daarken.com/Liche_Priest_Demo.jpg --

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Finstersang Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 18:09:53

@GalaadleHaut

Good artwork, but in my opinion it's too egyptian. xD

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 18:11:20

I wouldn't mind Egyptian theme if all was done is that vein.
Although I wish for Hauntish theme back.

Just, no dancehall neon green flash fest again :sux:

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RRick_CZ Der Siegreiche
January 20, 2015 18:16:17

I don´t like the idea of flying liches at all, but at least this one is skeletal

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 18:17:19

I'm with you there RRick.

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Finstersang Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 18:19:16

@GalaadleHaut

I'm sorry. My english isn't very well. What do you mean with "Tauntish theme"?

I love the Necropolis style in HOMM V, dark and gothic. The Necropolis in HOMM VI unfortunately I don't like much. This neon green was terribile and the strange look of Lich, Vampire, etcetera...

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 18:20:18

I mean the theme as in H2/H3.

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Cleglaw Der Ratgeber
January 20, 2015 19:20:26

upvoted.

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Zangetas Der Wahnsinnige
January 20, 2015 19:57:21

cool,cool,cool just a bot too much green on them :)

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mediczero Der Schicksalshammer
January 20, 2015 17:56:32

Bluebeak is back too!

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RRick_CZ Der Siegreiche
January 20, 2015 18:13:37

That´s the only positive thing here :P

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Niwroc Der Uralte
January 20, 2015 18:28:16

Hey! you're right, I like the bird. Only a few familiars I've seen in things that are better. And in at least one of those the familiar was a major character in his own right.

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Mirash_ge Der Drache
January 21, 2015 12:19:34

Anastasia - boring as last year's snow

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mediczero Der Schicksalshammer
January 21, 2015 12:23:42

That depends on where in the world you are...

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JeremiahEmo Der Zerstörer
January 21, 2015 12:57:43

very correct opinion Mirash. Now, I'm gonna make you a sandwich. :)

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m4ciej12222 Der Finstere
January 20, 2015 21:23:21

Anastasya is very pretty.

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Kaanzakin Der Wanderer
January 20, 2015 21:29:04

Indeed she is :)

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DeltaTheDragon 
January 20, 2015 21:45:27

And i'm in love with her...

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m4ciej12222 Der Finstere
January 20, 2015 21:50:09

I am not surprised. It is delightful.

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samuli11 
January 20, 2015 22:44:01

Yes and that is the problem.
She is supposed to be undead hero, looking dead and scary. Now she`s definitely not looking like undead hero to me.

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Cleglaw Der Ratgeber
January 20, 2015 20:56:53

LizardWarrior from HC wanted to show you what an acctual undead looks like:

http://i61.tinypic.com/ztaely.jpg

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EnergyW Der Hacker
January 20, 2015 20:59:44

Aaaand got a virus report for some unimaginable reason...

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ChrupekPL Der Plünderer
January 20, 2015 21:03:24

So maybe the ''acctual undead'' are viruses xD

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Lord_Camilus 
January 20, 2015 21:09:26

For me it looks a little ridiculous and funny, not scary, but I have never been a fan of necropolis (both green and undead one). :P
Anyway nice try, most people will love that ;)

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Raenus Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 21:18:03

I completely agree. I like her character and she has an interesting story but damn, why does the undead hero have to look like a high school student. I fully understand that she was 17 when she died but it says in her story that "Her body was smuggled away and resurrected by her great-aunt Sveltana". I assume that smuggling a body out of a city would take some time so why does her body show no signs of decay?

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Raenus Der Erboste
January 20, 2015 21:22:42

Also wouldn't the flesh of ANY undead (other than a vampire which she is not) mortify over time? Lichs (which are the nearest thing that she could be compared to) have always had either no flesh or dry old mummy flesh.

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EnergyW Der Hacker
January 20, 2015 21:23:59

Probably because it didn't take ages to show decay. Not certain how much it takes the corpse to disintegrate, though it implies it was done within the month (or even week) when Anton executed her.

Though this does not support the fact she should look deader in H7...

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EnergyW Der Hacker
January 20, 2015 21:26:07

But we forgot the fact she is a vampire, which should make her almost ageless.

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ptrsc Der Uralte
January 20, 2015 21:27:58

@Raenus
For a Necromancer as powerful as Sveltana (who was also close kin and advisor of the late Duke) smuggling one small body was a childs play:) And I remember Anastasia drinking some Mother Namtaru blood or something and I think that makes here quite like a vampire, according to Ashan lore.

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samuli11 
January 20, 2015 22:20:24

Yeah, much better Cleglaw, more undead face, red as more "evil" color, and it has some classical undead feeling.
I just cant stand that nuclear waste puke green in necropolis! I hope there are absolutely minimum amount of green this time around.

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samuli11 
January 20, 2015 22:26:50

Lord Camilus the concept is the point. It may look "ridiculous" but it has the right elements to be undead. I think that baby face green Anastasya is the least scary undead hero from all HoMM games.

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GalaadleHaut Der Held
January 20, 2015 23:38:56

@Lord_Camilus : What looks ridiculous and funny is seeing miss universes for a Necropolis faction. NECRO you know, has to be UNDEAD.
Oh you are not a fan of Necropolis, thanks for criticizing.

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Raenus Der Erboste
January 21, 2015 05:18:24

@ptrsc: ahh thank you for pointing that out. I had completely missed her vampire ties. Knowing this I have less of a problem with her but I do hope we will still get some more undead looking Heroes, Moander and Sandro have always been my favorite Hero designs.

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ptrsc Der Uralte
January 21, 2015 09:11:03

@Raenus
np, glad to see someone with an open mind:)

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Thranduilll Der Mysteriöse
January 20, 2015 17:30:52

@Ubi-Nox

Will we have such a presentation for Sylvan and Dungeon too? I mean a leading character. We have Ivan, Murazel, Tanis, Anastasya and soon we will have the orc probably. What about others? Just curious :-)))

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Marzhin93 Der Uralte
January 20, 2015 17:55:09

All factions have a corresponding Council Member, and all will have an article on this blog... in due time :)

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Thranduilll Der Mysteriöse
January 20, 2015 17:56:18

Thank you Marzhin :-) Lovely!

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ptrsc Der Uralte
January 20, 2015 17:58:44

I suspect it may be Jorgen for Dungeon, he's already in the Council;P

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celitonto Der Plünderer
January 21, 2015 13:53:03

Okay, since fan modifications have become a thing, here is my colour interpretation of Anastasya:
-- http://i.imgur.com/6oMdQAw.png

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Amelisan 
January 21, 2015 13:56:57

Nice. And imho this green light is even better than the original one. :) Though I think there must be only one color for her eyes and magic %) But its just my opinion.

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mediczero Der Schicksalshammer
January 21, 2015 13:59:51

Nice, but maybe a little more green. I actually like the greeen color for necropolis. May this color could do together with the black and grey: http://img1.findthebest.com/sites/default/files/2307/media/images/Pale_Green_429724_i0.png

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celitonto Der Plünderer
January 21, 2015 13:59:56

@Amelisan I also tried the light to be white bud it looked quite humdrum to me, so I decided for the slightly desaturated teal tone.... and my thanks belong to you of course :)

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celitonto Der Plünderer
January 21, 2015 14:04:43

@mediczero my intention was to make her look not green at all, and by browsing some fan arts in the discussion I reached the opinion that reddish and desaturated tones would fit necropolis perfectly. It would be great improvement for necropolis because of its controversy in H6

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mediczero Der Schicksalshammer
January 21, 2015 14:07:04

Well I kinda knows that. Personally I would like necropolis to have some ghostly color instead of just plain black and grey. Teal could do too...

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Articun Der Wanderer
January 21, 2015 10:19:53

About Ashan religion...
Haven - The overzealous one, Elrath this and Elrath that
Sylvan - Indifferent to religion, forest is Sylanna, no need for altars and whatnot
Necropolis - Religious to a Good balance. Asha uses all, which is true.
Inferno - Reli -what?
Dungeon - Not really religious but Malassa is a constant-true and living presence on the Matrons and Priestess
Academy - Worship me! I am GOD
Stronghold - Be honorable, have a good fight, be a proud son to father sky and mother earth

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Articun Der Wanderer
January 21, 2015 10:20:53

Sanctuary - Religion is the way we live, nothing more and nothing less.
Fortress - As long as we protect the hearth and have the fires burning, Arkath smiles on us

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darioio 
January 21, 2015 10:52:06

Yes of course, you are far far away being "considered a spammer"

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Articun Der Wanderer
January 21, 2015 10:54:08

I must indeed take a break :P

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Amelisan 
January 21, 2015 11:47:56

"Academy - Worship me! I am GOD" haha :D
All is true, I believe)

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Marblethrone Der Ritterliche
January 21, 2015 18:18:01

The overzealous one? Amen to that, bro. Was I the only one who wanted to kick Anton in the bullocks after the things he said/did in his first campaign level?

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Akczam Der Schatzjäger
January 20, 2015 22:01:03

Anastasya was my favourite protagonist form H6, so I more than welcome to her return :D

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DeltaTheDragon 
January 20, 2015 22:02:12

as well as mine. Absolutley, great character.

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ciurga Der Zerstörer
January 20, 2015 22:29:25

Yes she was the best i h6, second wwas her devilish brother, but most of all hmm i liked zehir.

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Nailkaiser Der Getreue
January 20, 2015 21:49:25

Oh, the emo undead bitch that should've been buried in the griffin duchy? The angels could have won the war in H6 single handed if not for her meddlesome and pestering actions. How I wish she would die in this installment. Clavius or Nagash would have been a better replacement.

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Tumorco1 
January 21, 2015 12:52:09

How to save "might and magic"? One word: SANDRO.

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