SELL THE RIGHTS.
Ah, I see, you're going for the top spot again! :D
But yeah, Ubisoft proved that they just don't care about this franchise. Too little budget and too little time for game development. I wish a motivated, hungry, and small-to-medium size development team or game studio would buy the franchise, show ownership from the get go and make it their AAA title. With Ubi, MMH is just a drop in the bucket...
And no other news you'll tell us? :p
No, just kidding, I agree with you this time.
The best would be someone who would focus on Heroes only.
Ubi does not care because they have many other games which can make them money.
it looks like our little Antalyan is full grown up now... (slow clap)
i do whatever I consider to be the best for the game.
And I have found out that enthusiasm in this game will not fix it. The critics will not help too, though, but it is much easier and more justified in this case.
Ubi does not deserve to be defended. They don't communicate. They don't care.
And if they start to care, we could not notice it because they don't communicate.
Who cares about communication, I couldn't care if they didn't communicate at all as long as they weren't butchering the series. There is a difference between doing PR and actually working with the community.
YES SELL IT FUCKING SELL IT
It's time to give them the rights to this legendary game! In patch 1.6 has found a dozen new bugs! Such serious, that the game is quite impossible!
Let's have a small recap of the whole h7 farce shall we?
Back in August 2014, we were being told we would have “the very best-of of Heroes”, that the Team had “learned its mistake from Heroes 6”, that the Team was willing to “work with the fans in order to deliver the best possible experience”.
Then started the votes, already being completely absurd by tearing apart creatures from each other, making us impossible to have our favourite creatures in one lineup, we ultimately had to sacrifice two or at least one creature we loved in order to get another, early frustration from the start. Then of course, no opinions asked whatsoever in terms of gameplay, we could only vaguely influence on the lore no one really cares about anyway.
About Ashan though, Spider cult and other Strider atrocities are still shoved down our throats no matter how vocal we have been about it already back in the days of Heroes 6. Whatever the forums, even the official Ubi ones, not even mentioning this very blog where there is so much flaming in general.
But then, who cares about that if the mechanics delivers, and they don't. Heroes 7 is completely built upon its direct predecessors and wrongly claims its using features from past iterations mainly like the H5 skill wheel which has strictly nothing to do with the one presented in H7. Magic schools also, so many have been complaining about the high number, what do we get in H7?
Hero specialisations has been from the very beginning of the announcement heavily criticized almost at unanimity yet nothing has been done it that regard either. Anyway, the list of failed implementations or omission of crucial things in order to deliver a true HOMM gameplay is too long. We have H6 v2.0 disguised into something claiming to be what it isn't.
With time devs started to be more vocal about their decisions and suddenly we learn they consider the h5 system to be “flawed” and not the way to go, despite the huge demands from the fans. We also learn they say they don't make the game for us, labelling each and every fan as a hardcore freak. Etc
And if all this wasn't enough the can't even deliver a working game on deadline, bugfest at release just as expected and each new patch introduces new bugs, sometimes gamebreaking as we could see with 1.5
So what is left to do? Indifference is what they want, only loud complaining gets their attention, I don't mind if some think I'm a whining arse, all I ever wanted was a new sequel of my favourite series that I could enjoy and recognize as worthy of the name.
A nice, honest review for the game. I read it with pleasure :)
Do you have any hopes about the game future development Galaad ?
Galaad + hope + Ubi
Omg! This really does not fit together
Hope = Ubichoft selling the rights.
Still, I want to hear Master Galaads opinion.
No I have no hope left. As for the people hoping for Limbish to fix issues, don't forget they are the ones who created them in the first place.
After I found the information about the engine that "limbic" chose to play for the game, my hope died. No major changes they will not be able to do.
They blame the fans, they blame the engine, next time they'll blame Santa Claus for their own stubbornness, arrogance and incompetence.
"Oh, ASHADAMNIT! They are complaining about AI, A-GAIN!"
"Sir, I'm sorry, but we mistakenly added efreet instead of the double-headed phoenix..."
"What the heck are you talking about!?"
"The new added neutral unit! And we have some maps being designed by those goblin slaves we hired in Kazaquistan."
"Oh, save the phoenix AND the unicorn. We have also the Inferno faction up to our sleeve, if things get dire ..."
"Sir, things are already dire ..."
"YOU ARE NOT PAID TO SAY THE TRUTH!"
"I'll have someone moderate that foul mouth of yours..."
"Nevermind that now. So, anyone here to explain what's an AI?"
"Dunno, sir, it seems it has something to do with jujubees."
"Right and what about the multiplayer out of sync and the way we tried to disguise simultaneous turn?"
"Not a single report about that right now sir. Given that we have no idea of what we have done, we are waiting players to test it and give us the reports. But 3 seconds might have been too short?"
"What do they want? To have actual simultaneous turn? Forever moving?! What the hell!?"
"Sorry, sir, I was just thinking on the feedback given!"
"You want to keep working here? Yes? Then repeat with me: 'there's no feedback'."
"The-there's no feedback."
"Hm, for once you seem to be copying with our policies, dear man."
"Thank you, sir."
Who needs maps if the AI cannot play and multiplayer is broken?
Who needs RMG and editor if the AI cannot play, if even the vanilla is so much broken?
Benny Hill, hehe.
And we - demand multiplayer !!!!
This is how this website looks from a long time:
Thanks, But no thanks.
I.ve already quit playing this game .
I haven't even started, lol
They need waay much more improvements to the game in order to bring me back
Like remaking it from scratch, with REAL effort, time, FREEDOM and resources. But yeah not like trusting Ubi isn't a issue at the moment.
WE DON'T WANT CRAP! WE WANT HEROES!!
WE DON'T WANT SCREWBIFAIL ON THE JOB ANYMORE, FIRE ALL!!!!!
You must hold the record for bans lol
olo lolo lol
When the game was released I said maybe by christmas it will be playable and with much less bugs, boy I was wrong!
This is starting to look like H6 again, a badly designed game that was never finished and with too many bugs.
Sell the rights, no more butchering!
I played H6 couple of years after release and all I got was black screen or crashes.
Today I was able to play H7 (although with lags), so there's some progress. It looked like H6 when it was released, but with each patch it's actually getting better.
So please don' tell at least that it's STARTING to look like H6. It's starting to look like NOT H6. I'm not defending μbi and this game probably won't be the best one, but some people just exaggerate here.
Each case is different. I had 0 crashes or black screens in H6 and I could it, with his own problems but I could it. However, H7 is for me unplayable.
*...I could play it....
No, you were right. It will be playable by Christmas - by next Christmas :p
@Stormhelico Have you tried downgrading your graphic driver? XD
Well, but I think that H7 should be playable for more people than H6, because they used Unreal Engine, not some custom crap. And as long as they keep updating the game and don't abandon it like they did with H6, there's always hope. You might be able to play H7 one day (if you didn't refund it of course).
No, he is right it does look like H6 in soooo many ways. It looked like H6 from the very beginning. You know why? Because they actually used the same engine and the same codes. Maybe some textures are a bit better, but it is still ugly. And yes i consider H6 bad. It was fun for the first few times i played it, but after that it was just frustrating. Just like H6 2.0.
Who knows? Time will tell
Was the engine of H6 UE3? Serious question, I don't remember it...
No, heroes 6 engine was different. This is evident even in the game. And better.
Thanks Mirash. I believed it was different but I wans't sure about it.
In fact, graphics and multiplayer game 6 better. The heroes 6 multiplayer broke after the release of "Edge of Darkness" and the termination of support.
I can't say anuthing abot H6 multiplayer. I knew it has a lot of problems and I didn't try it. But I 100% agree with the graphics. It had more fantasy that this bland game. The colours, the environment, the sea... it had much better graphics... What's make H7 worse. How is it possible a game with worse graphics run much more worse than a game with better graphics? Only one word: incompetence.
I don't really know, but to me they both seem simular in a lot of ways. I wouldn't be surprised if they did use UE3. Anyway my point was that i feel like they didn't really changed all that much from H6. It almost feels like they just used H6 as basis and then improved upon it (yes almost like it is a new expansion of H6).
Heroes 6, many people do not like it, but my personal opinion, it was an ambitious project. Just unfortunate, design and geypley. But in contrast to the "limbic" He was great, and not just copying.
@ Rob, the H 6 and 7 are completely different . "Heroes 7" - a miserable, unfortunate copying
.A huge difference in the graphics and so on. H6 In all was harmonious. At H7 and decided to please the fans H6 and H 3-4 fans. And what happened? H6 You not love , but to respect, there was no copy brazen.
The lack of randomness, the lack of magic schools, the bland specialiations (though better than H7 ones) and the RPG skillwheel were a very very bad design in my opinion. It isthe most boring Heroes so far (withouth counting H7) imo.
Besides, the control areas which add nothing, the less amount of resources, the map desings and the town conversion was the last nail in the coffin. The game could be fun... but after two or three times, it felt very very boring imo.
You just did not see what heroes 6 beautiful, different, unique characters. You need to see that ! What's so new at 7? Few in urban development? Bridges? What else ? Maybe caravans? Escape portals? Garrisons? Wow, what a great job done.
I'm just trying to explain that the "limbic" nothing new is done themselves, they simply copy other people's ideas. And copy the bad.
Ey, I haven't said H6 was all bad. I know H6 had his good things. And I haven't said anything about H7 (only the specialiations).
I say specially what I dislike because that aspects of the game make me dislike the game. The game didn't appeal me. However, I have played three times the campaign, so it means I enjoy it. Perhaps no much (I couldn't finish a map becuase it bored me), but I enjoy ir.
H7... better not to speak about this disaster.
......And I saw the cheap projects, which is much more beautiful.
<<< H7... better not to speak about this disaster.>>
Copy is not bad by himself. Imagine you copy H2 ai. Well, you will have a good ai. The problem is when you try to copy many things and that things are connected to other things. It is then when you need glu and... in many cases, the glu doesn't work
In order to get a good copy, you need to understand that you copy. I also do not mind H 5 copies)
Very truth. H7 is a perfect example of that
Just stopping by to see if they changed something, but no, everything is still the same.
lOl, it's getting even worse, lOl
Is that even possible? lol
Hehe... "It's so quiet and peaceful here" by Marblestone, lol.
It's big and thick " LOL" ))
Clearly, that statement was based on an extremely rare moment in SC history :P.
I should have known better. How could there ever be peace and quiet around here?
What have I ever done wrong to you? :(
@MT, bullcrap I remember perfectly you said that shortly after Moshi was deleting and deleting and deleting.
so not a rare moment at all lol
Marble forgot to write down own comments in the dossier)))
Ubi sell the rights, no more butchering!
I would like to know whole development story from various perspectives. There must be reasonable explanation why 2 games in row were such a disaster at launch. There must be something very bad ongoing in Ubi since H5. Perhaps some truth would be nice for once ... without that marketing 'we cant say' attitude.
Starting from H6 SOMEONE got catapulted to the post of Creative Director. ;)
But still, Ubi lost tons of fans even with H5 already, as I always said, mechanics does not make it all.
The whole problem can be described by three words: Erwan le Spider
It almost seems as if whole brand was sabotaged on purpose. Kidding aside.
Yes like Galaad said. They had a lot of problems with H5 vanilla too. I believe they even changed a lot when it was still in beta, because it was such a mess. I remember playing the beta and then playing the demo or released game. I remember thinking how different it was.
But when H5 came out there were still many who had doubts, especially after H4.
They fixed a lot with the expansions.
I wish H7 to follow the H5 way, no matter how low chance it can be.
H7 at least, unlike H6, does not have new mechanics as the basement of gameplay, so theoretically it should be easier to fix it than H6.
I was more referring to the artistic direction which changed drastiaclly, the 3D which is not really optimal for this kind of game, the lore crap etc, all of these still preventing people to play even TotE.
LOL Antalyan you really don't understand do you? H7 IS BUILT ON H6 MECHANICS.
And really, that post from gomaki wasn't clear enough, "we are not making a game only for you, the hardcore fan base", which actually translates to "we are not making a game only for you, THE ACTUAL FANS, we are mainly targeting the dumbasses who will play anything just to kill time". So seriously **** them, they will never fix it.
wasn't clear enough?*
****ing lack of edit button.
Then as Verriker brilliantly replied: "(so if the developer tells us they have to cater to the casual market before the hardcore fans, and casual market is saying the game only caters to the hardcore fans, and the hardcore fans say it doesn't cater to them, who the **** is left to play the game then? lol)".
Dude even AcidDragon reacted, the lad was usually defending them here, not this time though.
I say again, if anyone no knows my bad English. I know very well the H 5 and 6. And I will say that both games were done perfectly, each - in his style . \ Sorry, I do not know the franchise and I do not care about the universe. \
Heroes 6 may not like it, I understand, but it was finished a single style, complete mechanical, everything was thought out. The fact that it did not take fans of the franchise and did not like the design, defective game - is another matter.
@Mirash, the people I mention are not even registered here, but you can read them down other forums, in other sections than the ones dedicated to the Ubiroes.
What is the 7 heroes? This ill-conceived up to please all fans. Worthless. The result was an indistinct mess. My personal opinion . A selection of the engine - a catastrophe.
Copying from the different games?
Developers, in my opinion, do not realize that copy. Result ? Of course the original - better.
Gala, I know the opinion of people in real life who do not read the forums. Their view coincides with the opinion of many people here....
I just wrote the opinion. Worthless mindless copying inevitably leads to the conclusion that the original - better.
If they actually UNDERSTOOD what they were TRYING to copy, they could have ENHANCE it and it would have been good. Obviously they fail. Obviously they didn't really tried. Obviously main efforts went into PR. Obviously not all of us are too stupid to trust these thieves. Obviously Heroes is dead and I wish they stop rob and desecrate its grave.
Even if this game will correct errors and everything will work, I will not change my opinion. At the moment, I am waiting only multiplayer. Because play with friends and checkers and backgammon interesting. ))
I have a great interest to this game - no.
I have no interest to this game - no.
\ I hope you understand what I mean, I find it difficult to write in English)
H7 is complete trash, will never ever be good, and they will say it's all because of the fans. LOL
I think so, I hope you understand me as well ))
Haha, it's funny, Gala and Mirsh - first in the credits of the game, lol )))
No kidding ! I do not think that the "heroes" had died. Remember Kings Bounty.I found a team "Katauri", which made a great continuation of the old game.
Chances are always !!!
Gala, we are not just stuck in the credits. This is destiny , we are forever with H 7 )))
I think , Antalya bad knows the game H 6 , and does not understand that you can not will integrate two completely different mechanics, two completely different concepts, are two completely different styles. Sorry, Antalya.)
""we are not making a game only for you, the hardcore fan base"
Stupid explanation because making a game for us does not exclude making a game for everyone else. Making game for us is actually making a game BETTER etc. for everyone. In any case, there would be more people happy than unhappy.
The real problem is their target audience - children, new fans = which is even reflected in the graphics. And less demanding target audience is the outcome of the effort and money they want to put into this project - which is obviously not big.
Mer , you are always short and clear. Agree.
Just look at the Paradox strategies - how complex and demanding they can be. There is no 3D graphics, yet their games are considered to be one of the best in the real time strategy genre.
For me, a perfect example of the quality of the strategy - a Blizzard. My dream , is that "Heroes" also reached the highest level .....
Ubi-Dan's BS post is a few pages before.
"Top Comments" blocked. \ nok nok \ Gala
@Mirash: Paradox games are 2D in contrast to Blizzard games. Blizzard is more about fantasy; Paradox is more about history and simulation.
Even though Magica is a fantasy game, it is not a RTS game; hack and slash RPG.
Well game wasnt certainly made for new people ... there wasnt even tutorial until this patch. First impression was tragical. Reviews bad .. if someone is not into the game already what would he find here? Fact that they claim that game is not made only for 'hardcore' fans is only excuse to lower game standards. I wonder how will they explain low H7 sales to top management. That event I would like to witness.
They made it for themselves, then :P There was no turorial because it was released unfinished.
The thing is they tried import H6 on a new engine and modify it to fit the previous games - created a sort of mish mash. They failed to do so. Supossedly, timeframe, money, and resources, lack of knowledge what fans want etc. excluded many (the best features) of the past games, so they chose a few that they could afford. But they failed on many other levels - the AI, bugs, technical issues etc.
Besides UBILIMBIC lacks experience to create such a demanding title.
It's simply not true.
The budget was to low it is clear, time development was to short.
I'm not mad on devs, its managment problem, if devs cannot deliver good product, they should be changed.
I know its not bestselling freanchise, but seriously it can be profitable if you do it the right way.
You have resources to do it. I know it is simple to say, but IT IS THAT SIMPLE, stop making stupid decisions!
Actually HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC is an award-winning series, it's MIGHT AND MAGIC HEROES which is a disaster lol
I meant the mmh from UBI :), but I think homm was great series but not bestselling - I can be wrong about it.
Out of curiosity can someone give us sale of each game: homm1=xxx,homm2=yyy etc
Yes I understood you, and you are right saying it can be profitable if done the right way. Heroes is a HUGE name and Ubi does nothing else than insulting it, the brand, the fans, even the customers who can't play even if they want to.
Question: where is edit,delete button for posts, I'm tired and can't find it.
It must be somewhere over here xD
Actually i was searching on youtube about HoMM this morning and found out that a famous youtuber (totalbiscuit) made a vid about H3HD that ubi released and it is about what they did wrong. I saw another vid that talked about differend Heroes titles, but it was a bit wierd, because i had no idea what the vid was trying to say. And these vids were from 3 months ago. That is from the time H7 was near release.If Ubi.
still thinks there is no interrest in this genre they should peel thier eyes open lol.
So yes part of the problem is management. But the other problem is the way Ubilols does things and treat thier costumers.
You are adding bells and whistles to the car without wheels. Multiplayer without simturns is useless and singleplayer without AI is useless as well. To make game at least remotly playable in multiplayer people have to turn on autocombat, which means one core aspect of game is just nullified. If you at least made some inovation in PvE but nope. Nothing.
But people will figure something out. Considering that H5.5 dev team consist mostly of hex coders, I believe that someone very clever eventually will be able to change even most hardcoded 'features' here. No idea why you had to do it the hard way ...
For modders to have interest to go into the horror of hex editing, the base game needs to be great, like Heroes III or TotE. No one will bother if product stays mediocre.
Well sure, but here at least there is no need to do hex coding as everything should be possible to do in UDK3 'advanced editor mode'. But I would rather see base game to be great .. perhaps in H8 ... they really need to start over ... again ... and this time with customers in mind.
Well they did lock some of the modding abilities, because it could have such a big impact towards the game. So they did it to "protect" us. But we never asked for that. And in my eyes that isn't what modding is about.
Unreal engine is not black magic either.
I'm beginning to think H7 was just a marketing stunt to make H6 look good, lol.
And it doesn't even seem that far-fetched lol
And with the failure of past features implementation it also makes these look bad, like the random for instance lol
I suspect an Erwin plot again lol
-- Ubisoft's attitude to this project from the very beginning, not in the interest of fans of the game. From the outset, Ubisoft had the purpose to create a game for profit. Creating a good game with long-term perspectives from the very beginning was not within the scope of their interests. Now-for most fans it all becomes a disappointment.
An interesting version that people ran to buy "Heroes 6".
However, "Heroes 6" our kind, good , cheerful and decent "Ubisoft" is also buried multiplayer. )
Moreover, if "Heroes-6", companies were provided with more or less thoughtful storyline, companies the "heroes-7" absolutely not interesting.
"Heroes 6" it was interesting to replay the company. Other finals blood \ tears, different bonuses and achievements, different characters - helpers. Sorry , "Heroes 7" replay makes no sense.
perhaps, for the development of the "heroes" of the astrologer need help?
One of those cases when the stunt guy dies.
Hello old friends and my beloved haters!
Guess what? I had the opportunity to play the 'final' version of the game and ...
THE GAME IS A DISASTER.
It is even worse than I expected lol.
BTW - While trying the Sylvan campaign I noticed that 80% of my battlefield were women or female creatures! This is idiotic!
UBISOFT SELL THE RIGHTS AND GET AWAY.
PS. Don't forget to take Limbic with you as well.
Hunter, blade dancer are male for pixie i might say its a guy in a dress the only female units i see are dryad and druid. There is still deer here only first form its female but second male so dont see problem here. And how do you check gender for dragons and ent ?
I'll die laughing ))
Oh don't forget the transexual blade dancer ;)
Oh Eltheris :-) I remember your name! You've proved not once to be logic-resistant so I won't waste my time nor the space to explain it or attach screenshots :-) I also remember you as the person defending developers all the time. I hope that you enjoy now your 'best Heroes game in the series'. You must be very proud of the score on Metacritic! Thank you for your contribution! XXXO
I understand be frustated abaut bugs, some feature that they did not provide/game being borring/borring campain/crashing/not working multiplayer but seriously gender of units where is there logic. By the whay i have no problem whit "GENDER" units
we Need a button to down vote People...
Since you never get any upvotes I wonder how deep in the negative you would go.
A button to down vote me? I also wish there was a "turn off" button for people praising and paying for trash like H7.
@Lich - Is it about me? You must have missed my profile then.
How can I be positive?Facts are facts.Game hits all the bottoms on rankings despite a massive crowd giving advices and success recipes on a plate for a year.
Eltheris was here defending devs and criticising many intelligent people's ideas. Now I have the full right to mock him and his kind. H7 is the product of the vision he shared with developers.You can have your own opinion but the amount (tons) of negative reviews is overwhelming.
H7 IS A FLOP. THAT'S A FACT.
Of course not, my post was directed MoritzBradke.
So many comments are being deleted, so many accounts are getting banned.
Welcome to Ubisoft and the Shadow Council, where your voice TRULY MATTERS.
Hi GalaadleHaut, as mentioned before, comments are removed if they insult, spam, troll, use profanity or anything else we deem to be unacceptable. When creating an account you are using Uplay and are also under the Uplay T&Cs https://legal.ubi.com/termsofuse/en-GB Thank you for your understanding.
I can't even believe you still dared to post that canned answer. You have much more to answer for yourself.
Let's talk about my ban down the official forum, care to give an explanation? I only tried to open a thread asking you to answer for your actions I, as an Ubisoft customer, deemed unacceptable. What did you do? Instant delete + ban.
How do you explain this?
"Welcome to Ubisoft and the Shadow Council, where your voice TRULY MATTERS."
Ban Ubisoft they sold us a broken product
From ubisoft eula :
UBISOFT DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE PRODUCT WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, THAT DEFECTS WILL BE CORRECTED, OR THAT THE PRODUCT IS FREE OF VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL COMPONENTS.
Is that for real? LOL
Even virus? So when Ubisoft infect your computer and steal all your login date from your bank. They just say " In our EULA it say we are not warrant for virus haha"
Come on Ubisoft! Are you for realz?
How about my EULA!
When i buy your game it warrant that i will be trolling your broken product 24/7
6th section, well I would sort of expect that they will try to get rid of responsibility for the product, but whats with all that viruses and other harmfull components doing there.
https://legal.ubi.com/eula/en-INTL same need to be agreed when getting game on steam.
you know, sometimes it is useful to read the license agreement)
@ Mirash_de : Usually legal department make it exeptionally difficult to compehend thus discouraging users from reading it. Some are discouraged only by its length. This of course is common problem not applicable to ubisoft only. I find disturbing specially section where there is that "Product is not sold, only licensed". When they turn off their DRM servers - game over. It seems to be trend theese days.
And reading all that will make your life sadder somehow. But the difference from reading EULA from Ubisoft and a competent company is that the competent company presents a product you can trust. Ubisoft uses its EULA already as a matter of defensive purpose for it doesn't guarantee anything anymore.
Mirash_de – «… sometimes it is useful to read the license agreement)» - pero la firma que puede desafiar la justiciabilidad en base a las condiciones de su firma)))
– «…иногда это полезно прочитать лицензионное соглашение)» - но подписание которого можно опротестовать в судебном порядке на основании условий его подписания )))
how to advise lawyers on TV: "Gentlemen, read everything, even the notification from Microsoft")
ОСОБОЕ МНЕНИЕ ПО ПОВОДУ ОБ ОТВЕТСТВИННОСТИ:
Приобретение или не приобретение того или иного продукта это свободный выбор покупателя.
Приобретая программный Вы так же должны предварительно поинтересоваться его качеством, как вы интересуетесь качеством других товаров. Предъявление каких-либо претензий по вопросу о качестве этой игры не вполне корректны, поскольку покупка это было Ваше добровольное волеизъявление. Вам прекрасно было известно о степени готовности данной игры.