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Najakir Kreeganin
April 15, 2015 21:45:10

Funny to see more skull on stonghold heroes than on necropolis heroes... XD

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rodaff Mroczny
April 15, 2015 21:47:23

In Ashan skulls are a trademark of Stronghold and sadly for Necropolis it is spiders.

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Pawek1308 Pradawny
April 15, 2015 21:48:35

This is funny... and also a little bit tragic.

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Najakir Kreeganin
April 15, 2015 21:52:27

Yes Pawek, I was ironic.

Necro can have some spiders, becaus it's their godess... but if they could have not ONLY spiders...^^

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Mirash_ge Smok
April 15, 2015 21:53:15

and I am very sad

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Niwroc Pradawny
April 15, 2015 22:09:31

Wait? You want Skulls to be associated with Necromancers and the undead? Why would you want a crazy thing like that? Everyone knows the spiders are much more associated with the undead than skulls.

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Niwroc Pradawny
April 15, 2015 22:09:33

Wait? You want Skulls to be associated with Necromancers and the undead? Why would you want a crazy thing like that? Everyone knows the spiders are much more associated with the undead than skulls.

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 22:32:01

@Mirash-, tough day, sugar? ;)

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Mirash_ge Smok
April 15, 2015 22:42:33

эт я про пауков

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Kyubi220 Strażnik
April 16, 2015 00:58:57

Necropolis are undead! Skull and dead should be for them.

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rodaff Mroczny
April 15, 2015 21:43:41

The petition for a better skillwheel has almost 150 supporters, if you haven't signed it yet please do it now.
Here's the link:
https://www.change.org/p/ubisoft-erwan-le-breton-put-more-work-into-heroes-of-might-an-magic-skill-wheel?just_created=true

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 21:55:54

I don't see much sense in it but let it be.
Signed.

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xzloth01 Wierny
April 15, 2015 21:11:50

I can see the eyes problem, so i tried to solve it:
http://oi58.tinypic.com/syqc6g.jpg

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LightAvatarX Nietykalny
April 15, 2015 21:14:20

A lot better!Thank you very much!

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 21:33:59

Much better.
Still I prefer black eyed orcs instead of red color.

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Najakir Kreeganin
April 15, 2015 21:41:52

Good Idea !

Sempai : Not sure for black eyes. They are already in shadow...

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rodaff Mroczny
April 15, 2015 21:44:59

Much, much better.
Well done :)

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 22:10:49

Najakir, I mean in general. Why orcs should be red-eyed? Do they smoke much weed or something?

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Milets Strażnik
April 15, 2015 22:14:04

great work!

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Milets Strażnik
April 15, 2015 22:14:47

@Sempai, Shamans do. After all, how would they talk with the spirits?

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arcanus96 Mroczny
April 15, 2015 22:14:52

I actually like the blind shaman thing, but those spikes need to be toned down

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 22:17:56

Milets, haha, nice catch! Agreed xD

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Matooob 
April 15, 2015 22:42:09

Worst heroes ever. So many ways how to make them blind and they deside to pick tusks on their eyes. And agree with sempai, black or brown would be much better and natural.

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Cleglaw Doradca
April 15, 2015 23:11:32

having no eyes, are the special features of those models. you people are just complaining to anything new presented. whiny closed mind bastards.

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Matooob 
April 15, 2015 23:20:20

Because having tusks on eyes is so cool now...

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Cleglaw Doradca
April 16, 2015 00:18:52

you expected shiny helmets? this is the way of the savage.

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Matooob 
April 16, 2015 01:01:41

I expected smth less redundant

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RobvD84 Szalony
April 16, 2015 11:35:22

@Cleglaw where do you see ppl say they want shiny helmets. I want these designs simple, not over the top. And besides them wearing masks makes it a lot better. Altho i don't really like the face covering that is going on. There are better ways then what they have done now.

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xzloth01 Wierny
April 16, 2015 15:46:34

thanks pals!

@Sempai-Mur, Matooob
maybe black or brown would be much natural, but eyes of the orcs should be red, demonic blood in veins and so on...
just check the brute:
https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/factions/stronghold/creatures/brute
or Cleglaws avatar

I am not a fun of this demon/orc miture but the (his)story goes there, and orcs in hmm now have demnicattitude :-(

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 16, 2015 15:53:39

xzloth, http://static2.cdn.ubi.com/emea/gamesites/mm/screen/he5/TofE/might-and-magic-heroes-5-tofe-002.jpg
In h5 only upgraded cyclopus was red-eyed.

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xzloth01 Wierny
April 16, 2015 16:23:48

yep, but now the orc miht heroes alredy have red ones :-(

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 19:07:15

Not bad. But is there any reason for them to be blind?

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LightAvatarX Nietykalny
April 15, 2015 19:11:06

Developers's complex...
And with the so many crags in Asan,few of them will survive,lol.

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mErEnEfErEee Furia
April 15, 2015 19:18:25

I can see no logic, but someone can explain?

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Pawek1308 Pradawny
April 15, 2015 19:31:14

Articun has stated quite sensible explaination. He suggested that they are blind because their other senses are sharpened. Moreover, they are led by spirits, so they simply do not need eyes.

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 19:36:26

This explanation is quite poor. IMO they take out their eyes just to "sharpen the senses"? Meh. I don't think so.

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JedynyHex Potężny
April 15, 2015 19:43:20

Look carefully, there are small holes in their masks, I guess. :P

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 19:48:07

JedynyHex, ye. Perhaps they are orcish hockey players or smth...

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arcanus96 Mroczny
April 15, 2015 20:23:49

in many shamanic traditions in real life shamans were supposed to have a second sight, according to this tradition they don't need their physical eyes(they are considered a distraction) since they are led by the spirits, or se this world throught the spirit world with their internal sight. Blindess was considered a blessing in many ancient tradition (like in ancient greece, Homer was supposed to be blind in some traditions)

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 20:27:52

ok I can consider it as an argument.

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rodaff Mroczny
April 15, 2015 20:40:09

They refuse to see the skillwheel ;)

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Chiasa Szalony
April 15, 2015 18:12:07

They'd be really good if it wasn't for the weird head gear, seriously wtf is that?
Other that that I think they're one of the best hero models in H7, love the woman's lip ring :3 and I'm glad they don't wear armour.

PS. Don't forget about the skill system :)

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Woodplay Magiczny
April 15, 2015 18:17:33

What that thing at the top of the male head gear/ mask... hair?? on both side of the ivory-like object...

P.S. looking for skill wheel system too

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Chiasa Szalony
April 15, 2015 18:19:43

moar spikes! >.<

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Najakir Kreeganin
April 15, 2015 18:21:24

Yep, the mask is really strange, but why not...

PS : Also looking for new skeelwheel.^^

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Woodplay Magiczny
April 15, 2015 18:29:15

I wonder how many more stuff (town screen/ Heroes models/ creature models/ Limbic entertainment part 2/ April screen shot) Ubi got in hand before facing the skill wheel problem XD
Orcs are all done now

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Chiasa Szalony
April 15, 2015 18:31:57

Well, there are still warfare units and hall of heroes left. And there's Necro HoH and warfare too but I think they're afraid to show it :D

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RRick_CZ Triumfator
April 15, 2015 18:29:51

I know it´s noting new, but I really dislike the idea of normal magic for Stronghold. Why not be more creative and create something special for them ? Bloodmagic or something ...

Models - the body is ok, but the headcover is very stupid. I know they are supposed to be blind, but the current "horns" look ridiculous imo.

­Yea, and btw .... do you know the skillwheel needs a rework ?

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ramborusina 
April 15, 2015 18:40:46

Yup, was quite boring to see in h6 orcs with magic when two previous times they were made such unique and interesting factions. Problem I suppose is that you can re-do h6 without taking a lot of h6 things into it.

We should be used to it by now that when you say "face" there will be something ridiculous that makes hero look idiotic at best. Without the masks this is much more how I would depict might heroes(aside staff-totems). Even overall they would look quite nice without the mask/headress.

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EnergyW Twardziel
April 15, 2015 18:47:42

At least this time we can see the mouth. Unlike most other heroes, if not all.

What is this, anyway? Masked party so nobody can see the hero's true face?

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Marblethrone Rycerski
April 15, 2015 18:49:57

You are seriously complaining about covered faces? All models have that, and the only reason why is because they are standard models for every hero. It's impossible to make unique ones for every hero in the HoH :).
_
So yes, it's a masked ball in Ashan, we just have to pretend they are actually uncovered as they roam about the map.

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Someborednerd Obieżyświat
April 15, 2015 18:50:28

I still think it's better than some heroes with H5 models.

I mean, we saw a succubus as a massive Demon Lord and a female, skinny djinn as a tiny fat Wizard.

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EnergyW Twardziel
April 15, 2015 18:52:20

There are alternate ways to make the hero model neutral. Even in H5, where both male and female took the same model, yet it looked it could belong to both of them.

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Someborednerd Obieżyświat
April 15, 2015 18:58:09

Actually, a half of H5 heroes also covered their faces: Knight, Demon Lord, Warlock, Runepriest.

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Raenus Furia
April 15, 2015 18:59:14

Really?

This Hero---http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/gallery.php?game=heroes5&image=heroes/jhora&back=toe_academy_heroes.shtml

Looked like this in-game---http://tawerna.xgame.pl/h/5/img/u_academy/Academy_hero.jpg

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RobvD84 Szalony
April 15, 2015 19:38:00

And yet it is still better then Ubi has shown so far.

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JotunLogi 
April 15, 2015 18:33:18

WTF???
Where the f*ck is LIBRARIAN!!!
He is the only decent magic hero for Stronghold!
Ok, classes are decent- shaman is classic, others sound cool although I would see Dreamwalker and some kind of prophet

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Ayleon Strażnik
April 15, 2015 18:39:35

Dreamwalker, dreamwalker... yes! I like it! At least they could add some race-specific skill related to that for the Stronghold faction...

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xzloth01 Wierny
April 15, 2015 18:41:16

Dreamwalker sounds great idea

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SlumbrousShip5 Furia
April 15, 2015 18:49:39

Dream walker, unfortunately, is a warfare unit.

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EnergyW Twardziel
April 15, 2015 19:54:36

We also know there is that albino cyclops acting as a catapult of sorts.

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Milets Strażnik
April 15, 2015 21:14:45

+1 for the Dreamwalker

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CuriousOnlooker 
April 15, 2015 20:59:19

Meh. I swear that eventually I'll stop saying it, but for me the hero designs are all unnecessarily elaborate. I love the use of war paint, bone fetishes, and totem faces--they set a really cool and suitable tone--but there's just so much of that cluttered onto them.
Orcs, like necromancers, aren't a superficial culture; all this kitschy ornamentation feels out of place.

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CuriousOnlooker 
April 15, 2015 21:00:58

That said, in overall design and skillsets, Stronghold has my favorite heroes yet.
Y'all are doing wicked work here--just keep it subtle. Less can be more. =D

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damianjcoles Wierny
April 16, 2015 02:23:23

You wont see so much detail in the game

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wasd1200 Obieżyświat
April 16, 2015 16:19:18

Moshi,do you know how the vampire and lich redesignes are going? How far have they gone with it for now, how much is left and so on? I'm interested! :)

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Someborednerd Obieżyświat
April 15, 2015 22:13:20

http://bit.ly/1OCyZLr
I want this guy to reappear in Heroes 7 ^-^

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 22:14:50

+1000. Naadir was epic. My favorite character for H5 multiplayer.

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Someborednerd Obieżyświat
April 15, 2015 22:19:27

He even has long, white hair and a masked face, both of which Ubisoft likes =D

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Someborednerd Obieżyświat
April 15, 2015 22:19:59

Not to mention green eyes.

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Najakir Kreeganin
April 15, 2015 22:20:03

The most "necromancer-like" character, and also very fun with his ghost summoning (and powerfull if well used).

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JedynyHex Potężny
April 15, 2015 22:20:18

He needs manicure badly. :P

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 22:22:13

Not so sure that that was hair :P

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Miks_ya Pradawny
April 15, 2015 22:23:32

Freddy Krueger in the world of heroes :-)

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rodaff Mroczny
April 15, 2015 22:42:26

Freddy Krueger + Jason Voorhees = Naadir
He was quite good in H5

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Cleglaw Doradca
April 15, 2015 23:14:51

he is nadir, he is not supposed to appear in everygame(turkish style bad word-joke.)

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Someborednerd Obieżyświat
April 15, 2015 23:26:55

Naadir means something in Turkish?

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Sempai_Mur Mroczny
April 15, 2015 23:33:04

No, nadir has an English meaning. Clew was kinda self ironic.

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Sandro400 Tajemniczy
April 15, 2015 20:47:42

Перевод на русский: http://heroes.riotpixels.com/?p=1323

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jewelryan Bohater
April 15, 2015 20:55:37

Спасибо за перевод. Быстро и качественно работаете.

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Sword_Rock 
April 15, 2015 19:59:34

У меня такое ощущение или художники перестали стараться и применять вдохновение и фантазию что за слепые герои и наездники на василисках с детскими вервернами где огры шаманы гоблины и жёсткие варвары где они???

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Mirash_ge Smok
April 15, 2015 20:01:14

добавлю от себя будто назло прям ((

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DenisBulenkov 
April 15, 2015 20:03:39

В Энроте)

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Miks_ya Pradawny
April 15, 2015 20:04:58

неее Дэн, самые жестокие варвары в Аксеоте)

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Miks_ya Pradawny
April 15, 2015 20:07:32

только там варвар в рукопашную мог вынести целую орду)

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DenisBulenkov 
April 15, 2015 20:10:19

Ну так Аскеоткие варвары это сбежавшие из гибнущего мира Энротские)

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Miks_ya Pradawny
April 15, 2015 20:13:34

да, но только в Аксеоте у них "яйца выросли", до таких масштабов!)

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DenisBulenkov 
April 15, 2015 20:20:00

Просто в Аскеоте жил Чак Норрис - научил паре приемов)

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agar6 Szalony
April 15, 2015 21:04:02

Просто на Аксеоте кто-то решил попробовать нарушить древнюю этику ведения боев - слез с коня и сам пошел в атаку. И тут оказалось, что армия не особо нужна, можно армию титанов и самому одной пяткой валить. И понеслось.

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Marblethrone Rycerski
April 15, 2015 18:39:26

Earth Shapers start their training at an early age: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/18/article-2189914-14964FFD000005DC-48_964x553.jpg

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EnergyW Twardziel
April 15, 2015 18:42:01

Aren't those architects that start doing their job?

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Marblethrone Rycerski
April 15, 2015 18:44:58

Maybe, but 'architect' as the defensive class doesn't sound catchy. Certainly not for Stronghold.

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Articun Obieżyświat
April 15, 2015 18:21:36

I have to ask this devs:
Are we going with the more archaic and traditional idea of the Shaman that he/she is blinded to gain second sight? Is that why all the models are hiding their eyes?
Because honestly, with those bones at that exact location, i can't see how they are ablw to see (pun intended).
Of course if the explanation is that we are going with a more barbaric, or traditional shamanistic society and the Shamans are indeed blind, i can accept it.

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LightAvatarX Nietykalny
April 15, 2015 18:24:22

No,just the devs were feeling bored and did not make eyes...

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Ayleon Strażnik
April 15, 2015 18:34:41

Interesting idea, yet I think it is a matter of hiding the facial features so that the generic model may suit to any kind of specific hero... Anyway, while I understand this need, I believe the tribal masks of H6 were fancy and adequate to the situation: those bones are just... I lack the words to describe those, those...

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cadetfreeman Rycerski
April 19, 2015 17:35:48

Бедалаги. Зачем им глаза закрыли?

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Astera_Neo Doradca
April 19, 2015 17:36:39

А кто их знает, этих орков))))

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jewelryan Bohater
April 19, 2015 17:41:13

Раз они маги, то, скорее всего, магией и смотрят на этот жалкий мир.
Ну, или мысли читают.

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Astera_Neo Doradca
April 19, 2015 17:41:55

О, Нэсти ^^

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Astera_Neo Doradca
April 19, 2015 17:42:24

Привет))))

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jewelryan Bohater
April 19, 2015 17:43:35

Привет, Астера)

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Astera_Neo Doradca
April 19, 2015 17:44:51

^^

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guest-Rje384Hi Tajemniczy
April 25, 2015 15:39:25

Они типа через магию на мир смотрят и по этому им зрение не нужно, но мне тоже не нравится.

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DmitriyNetsevW Wierny
April 26, 2015 23:58:43

Иллиданы недоделанные, магией на мир смотрят...

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