may be replace the ballista (warfare) with smth like "griffin air attack"
That would be cool! Having a griffon waiting in the back lines to strike each turn!
i know that you realy liked griffin but what abaut other duchy what they will use ;), griffin is a connection to one clan so wolf to wolf duchy, if i know propably only unicorn mduchy is sad becouse they choosed sylvan ;)
maybe someday there will be a option like in castle choosing clan whit difrent units ;) but some units may be the same for all
Eltheris you do realize that we are playing as the Griffin duchy right? The Wolf duchy is the enemy.
Duchy wolf was the enemy in h6 then irina whit her child taked care there. And now duchy stags are the enemy.
i guess on trailer ivan slicing horned wolfs guys ;)
Eltheris you're right stag duchy is the enemy not wolf but we're still playing as Griffin duchy so "wolf to wolf duchy" argument is still invalid
urnus > They said on a Q&A that the non campaign Haven we will play (aka during scenario, skirmish, multiplayer, ect) will be based on the wolf duchy, so the argument is valid. Griffins will only be available during the campaign. Complain as long as you want, it's like this and it will not change =D
i dont mind having no griffin, but one unice one in warfare does soud good
@Eltheris it wasn't wolf duchy soldiers but stag duchy ones also glass was of green color.
This feminist ass-kissing thing is getting old. They had to emphasize that men and women are equal all the time (also in the dwarves' description) and then there was some reform because of something like Irina of the Wolf Duchy. If you think about it, these feminist ass-kissing scripts especially what Irina did to the Guardians is sexist. Imagine if genders were reversed: men and women were equal then some male king changed it to male-dominated. Feminists would be enraged.
Feminists is the most sexist group ever known to mankind inspite of what they say. Action speaks louder than words.
this looks like the best haven line-up came to day! great job. i m already used to see & love cavaliers, but those abbot & justicar are just new and very cool. i always imagined inquisitor type clerics should fit better more then h6 sisters. and an elite warrior of haven should be like justicar, devoted to duty and looking fierce.
i also want to thank you for another thing: female warrior with a proper armor, gaming world needed that! i think we all are enough with the sexy-bra-armors (:
Can't agree more Cleglaw i just love it!
Also know we know that Irina didn't waste her time after HoMM VI :D
I'm not usually the type to request changes to existing material, but I'd like to suggest a rename of the "Abbot" to "Cardinal" - works as a religious leader, matches the colour scheme, can sound both negative and positive, and doesn't sound like the Inquisition tried way too hard to think of a "friendly" rename.
I love the Guardian/Justicar design (Joan of Arc FTW), but seriously stop put this feminism crap everywhere, its getting boring.
Its irina legacy that influenced duchy wolf army
what are you talking about there has always been female warriors as heroes, so that means that they did have female soldier and what is wrong with showing it by giving them one female unit. in almost any of the older games one of the carters in the story has been a strong female knight or some like that.
In comparison with H6 Haven - 3 female units: Vestal, Blazing Glory, Celestial in H7 we have only 1 - Justicar. I don't count Warfare Units where Healing Tent was replcaed by Priestess/Vestal - we don't know its name yet.
I'm liking this. Looks like Haven is becoming a huge callback to the Knights of Heroes II, with their entirely human roster (though now mostly human, Dire Wolves are the most "normal" creatures to appear so far, and still a callback to the Wolves from the Barbarians). The Guardians are a likely a reference to the old Swordmen, while the Sword Bearer as a champion unit reminds me closely of the Paladins and Crusaders.
Meanwhile Legionaries replace the useless peasants.
"Mounted knights make up the Empire's heavy shock troops, supported by heavy infantry and missile weapons. The Empire can also count on the support of mythical creatures, such as Angels and Griffins"
Why mention griffins here if they have been replaced by wolves. I'm hoping the haven sites out of date and the sworbearer has be changed to the guardian and the griffin is the other champion unit. Providing their not a warfare unit
The Haven page says "Horseman" not "Cavalier" so it is absolutely out of date.
agreed. Just replace those weak, boring and unimaginative Justicars with Griffins and everyone will be happy.
the point is that, apart from the campaign, I think that the line up should be FOR THE ENTIRE HUMAN EMPIRE, not only one ducade.
I do know that is close to H2, but griffins instead of one more human unit...
In the prev heroes there were 3 non-human units:
1. the griffin
2. the light elemental (humanoid)
3. the angel (humanoid)
you're stupid bro
This line up is cool for me. Haven faction looks more "dark" and mature than the previous one.
I feel the brutality of the wolf duchy, the hardcore theocracy of the Empire.
In this Heroes, there is 2 non-human units:
-Angels (i'm sure they're the other choice for champion unit)
So, it's ok. I'm a Necro player, but I think I will enjoy this Haven faction very much
1-girffin belongs to griffin, wolf blongs to wolf. wolf is not an human. besides griffin was in haven for years, jeez... i really get bored of griffin in same line up over and over.
2-i hated those naked flying shiny girls, on the other hand justicar looks pretty cool and awesome. it eye hurting version of harpy, which was a flying naked girl. come on....
3- we still have angels(seraphs).
this wolf looks like it just ate an whole cow, no flyers for haven now??????
if they remove angels, i dont know if haven would be any fun. I guess the devs have shunned elrath and gone back to ylath
I am going to love Haven.
+ 1 Wolf Duchy !!!
I must say that I really love the new Haven look! All of the units seem realistic and they have great and detailed equipment. And I also like that the horses are normal =P In H6 I wasn`t really found of the sun horses... they looked a bit odd to me. But will there really be no griffins? I can`t imagine Haven without griffin units in the world of Ashan...
They look nice. Looking to play the game soon! Keep working
No griffin, no party.
they will still do party in campaning, you can join them any time ;)
Okay, then it should be: no griffin, no party... in multiplayer.
Aww... griffins are not in Haven? Disappointing. At least they could've been switched with the wild wolves. A shame.
Where are the Griffins!?!?
Another death of staple that has been around since homm I
Guardian/Justicar = GIRL POWER. ^_^
As for the Sun Riders, I'd just like to go ahead and say that I personally had no problem with their appearance, but I'm good with the new Cuirassier's appearance, too.
Anyhoo, another good post!
CUIRASSIER...glorious as fuck.
take out guardians and put griffins instead!!! please!!! for the good of this game and their loyal players!!!